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procdoc · Aug 25, 2024

We should have recognised early that Bristol packed their midfield and dragged Rudoni back to make it a flat three. Then Wright and Saka could get more narrow to support Simms whilst nullifying Bristol.

We didn’t really react to their setup and we got a point more out of luck than anything. On the plus side nicking a point when you play that poorly is a good thing really.

I wish we wouldn’t be so passive, we have the players to dominate games.

clint van damme · Aug 25, 2024

Marty said:
We've just carried on from last season, no lessons learnt. The squad is too soft, that player who swung for Wright after the goal should have been put into row z the first time he got the ball. We need to start giving it out instead of being bullied all the time. We need to forget the process for one signing, get an experienced championship player who can do the basics well but will kick the fuck out of the opposition for 90 mins.

I think missing out on Browne will turn out to be pivotal in our season if we don't get another midfielder in.

Mucca Mad Boys · Aug 25, 2024

clint van damme said:
I think missing out on Browne will turn out to be pivotal in our season if we don't get another midfielder in.

We will get another midfielder in, as you say we missed out on Browne and also Stamenic. Two players who’d be expensive wage-wise and in the latter’s case, a sizeable transfer fee.

The midfield and defence isn’t looking great atm.

Jamesimus · Aug 25, 2024

clint van damme said:
I think missing out on Browne will turn out to be pivotal in our season if we don't get another midfielder in.

Yeah I wasn’t particularly enamoured with the idea of signing him, but if you offered it me now I’d snap your hand off! He is the kind of player needed.

Marty · Aug 25, 2024

clint van damme said:
I think missing out on Browne will turn out to be pivotal in our season if we don't get another midfielder in.

Really not sure how we fumbled it so bad. Even if we did sign Stamenic we still needed another so was stupid we put all our eggs into one basket with him.

pusbccfc · Aug 25, 2024

Gint11 said:
4 points from 9 is mid table form.

Well yes, without our best midfielder and arguably best player in the past 12 months who also happens to make those around him play better..

stevefloyd · Aug 25, 2024

ccfc1234 said:
We need to sign a 6. I watched Apadou for Leeds he broke play up, moped up and started attacks. We need a player to be that protector of the back 4 an excellent communicator and that is bound to help the defending.

we don't need a sulky player in midfield

stevefloyd · Aug 25, 2024

quinn1971 said:
Meltdown because we’re not on 9 points and winning every game 4-0, they prob think wer’e the only team trying to settle new players in,

the only new player we had from the start was Rudoni

Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 25, 2024

stevefloyd said:
the only new player we had from the start was Rudoni

…and in goal

stevefloyd · Aug 25, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
…and in goal

goalies don't count

Saddlebrains · Aug 25, 2024

Marty said:
Really not sure how we fumbled it so bad. Even if we did sign Stamenic we still needed another so was stupid we put all our eggs into one basket with him.

It was literally a case of us deciding to plump for Stamenic. Browne was as good as done

He then sees us going after another man in that position, and rightly as I'm sure we all would went 'fuck you then'

quinn1971 · Aug 25, 2024

stevefloyd said:
the only new player we had from the start was Rudoni

Some of those new players might be good enough to start, which is why we need to try different things, we’re 3 games in, doubt robins even knows his best 11 yet

Sick Boy · Aug 25, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
It was literally a case of us deciding to plump for Stamenic. Browne was as good as done

He then sees us going after another man in that position, and rightly as I'm sure we all would went 'fuck you then'

We could have done with both of them, madness we didn’t sign Browne.

clint van damme · Aug 25, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
It was literally a case of us deciding to plump for Stamenic. Browne was as good as done

He then sees us going after another man in that position, and rightly as I'm sure we all would went 'fuck you then'

If that's correct then that's a monumental fuck up by someone.

steve cooper · Aug 25, 2024

clint van damme said:
If that's correct then that's a monumental fuck up by someone.

I don't think anyone at our end could be blamed.
Stamenic was deemed to be the better signing, but unfortunately he dicked us about, and his end made sure it was played out in public for his own benefit.

Evo1883 · Aug 25, 2024

I can't keep going back to the fact that we start games slowly and last season the table reflected on a 1st half 2nd half results basis .. but also because we are more passive it has a knock on effect directly creating problems throughout the team and we struggle to get going .

Because we are set up more negatively in the first half ( see less overlaps from tats and MVE , dropping in when one goes forward etc ) it's creating a static team and one that isn't moving as much to recieve the ball .. midfield therefore is looking far worse because of this as a natural outlet

A shift in mentality whoever comes in is needed away from home

Mucca Mad Boys · Aug 25, 2024

Evo1883 said:
I can't keep going back to the fact that we start games slowly and last season the table reflected on a 1st half 2nd half results basis .. but also because we are more passive it has a knock on effect directly creating problems throughout the team and we struggle to get going .

Because we are set up more negatively in the first half ( see less overlaps from tats and MVE , dropping in when one goes forward etc ) it's creating a static team and one that isn't moving as much to recieve the ball .. midfield therefore is looking far worse because of this as a natural outlet

A shift in mentality whoever comes in is needed away from home

4 points in 3 games isn’t exactly a slow start, we’re 8th. A win against Norwich next week and the narrative changes completely. We’re missing Sheaf too with another 1 or 2 players to be signed before deadline day.

I’m not too concerned with the 1st v 2nd half performances, most sports and football matches are decided in the last 15-25m and that’s where we’re strongest. The usefulness of the first v second half table is limited.

Evo1883 · Aug 25, 2024

Mucca Mad Boys said:
4 points in 3 games isn’t exactly a slow start, we’re 8th. A win against Norwich next week and the narrative changes completely. We’re missing Sheaf too with another 1 or 2 players to be signed before deadline day.

I’m not too concerned with the 1st v 2nd half performances, most sports and football matches are decided in the last 15-25m and that’s where we’re strongest. The usefulness of the first v second half table is limited.

We've played poorly in both away games so far this season

Last season 1st half

As you can see in the top 7 are the entire playoff and auto teams

Coventry are 16th

Second half

Us and boro decided to start playing at half time whilst the rest of the top 6 are still in the top 8 of the division ..

Coventry and boro again 2 teams both struggling to get going getting points in second half of matches

We are a pretty poor team in the first half of matches as the tables show , it's important Information

We were losing more than we are winning at half time , again putting us in the lower half of the league

Teams that start poorly and chase games generally don't finish the season where they would like

theferret · Aug 25, 2024

Mucca Mad Boys said:
4 points in 3 games isn’t exactly a slow start, we’re 8th. A win against Norwich next week and the narrative changes completely. We’re missing Sheaf too with another 1 or 2 players to be signed before deadline day.

I’m not too concerned with the 1st v 2nd half performances, most sports and football matches are decided in the last 15-25m and that’s where we’re strongest. The usefulness of the first v second half table is limited.

Well, yes. Way too early to write us off.

But, it seems to me most people are not doing that. We lost 5 of the last 6 last season, and were well beaten in all those games. The exception was a 0-0 draw at Blackburn where they had 30 goal attempts to our 6. We've hardly pulled up any trees this season either. It's a poor run of form with reoccurring issues. It's simply pattern recognition, that some on here dismiss as 'bedwetting'.

I'm still optimistic and no need to panic though.

CCFCSteve · Aug 25, 2024

clint van damme said:
If that's correct then that's a monumental fuck up by someone.

Yes and no. We obviously thought Stamenic was the better of the two which is supported by the fact there was Prem interest/buyer. We don’t know what promises were made by player, agent etc. ultimately we just got gazumped

Id be more a lot more concerned if we hadn’t gone for either because we thought we were well stocked.

Annoying but this is football/transfers

stevefloyd · Aug 25, 2024

quinn1971 said:
Some of those new players might be good enough to start, which is why we need to try different things, we’re 3 games in, doubt robins even knows his best 11 yet

I was saying the only player playing outfield was Rudoni and the other players we have don't currently play in the position which is patently struggling atm ...centre midfield

Mucca Mad Boys · Aug 25, 2024

theferret said:
Well, yes. Way too early to write us off.

But, it seems to me most people are not doing that. We lost 5 of the last 6 last season, and were well beaten in all those games. The exception was a 0-0 draw at Blackburn where they had 30 goal attempts to our 6. We've hardly pulled up any trees this season either. It's a poor run of form with reoccurring issues. It's simply pattern recognition, that some on here dismiss as 'bedwetting'.

I'm still optimistic and no need to panic though.

Yes, the end of last season was a disappointment but we had a tough run in and it was clear that our lack of depth meant players were exhausted.

It is bedwetting because we’ve only lost one game this season. If it was 10 games in and everything was patchy, the I’d be more sympathetic!

David O'Day · Aug 25, 2024

clint van damme said:
I think missing out on Browne will turn out to be pivotal in our season if we don't get another midfielder in.

Fuck me Alan Browne is going to be the greatest midfielder ever, a mix of Keane and Ballack by the time this window is over.

Covcraig@bury · Aug 25, 2024

I didn’t go yesterday so I donated my points to the Leamington branch . Watched the highlights this morning and although it was short it says a lot . We was shite , can this be confirmed by thoughts who did go ?

clint van damme · Aug 25, 2024

David O'Day said:
Fuck me Alan Browne is going to be the greatest midfielder ever, a mix of Keane and Ballack by the time this window is over.

Nah, just someone who could do the job we clearly need doing.

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