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Match Thread Middlesbrough vs Coventry City Play off Semi final 2nd leg Match Thread - Wednesday 17th May (11 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #36
Julie SBA said:
Would think he has to go one up top for this one with Godden dropping out for Allen and Sheaf coming in for Eccles or Hamer depending on injuries.
I'd also look at the bench, assuming Walkers season is done, if we're chasing the game, JWE and Burroughs would inject some pace out wide to replace tired legs. Dabo for BNC maybe if we are protecting a lead. Maguire is never going to be an answer to any question.
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I think a lot of this is going to come down to fitness rather than tactics. If they were fit and ready to go you’d have Sheaf/Hamer/Allen/Palmer in there no question.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #37
Yorkshire SB said:
If Sheaf starts and plays well, we'll look a different side.

I'm a bit unsure on what to do re Godden. He wasn't in the game, but then does a lot of unselfish running, and is there a risk Vik is isolated?
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Vik was completely isolated anyway.
 
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Skyblue_CP

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #38
Also think that 1 up top for this,

Wilson
McNally Fadz Doyle
BNC Kelly Sheaf JWE
Allen Hamer
Gyokeres

Try and get abit of joy down the flanks, we gave them far too much respect first 25 yesterday, what Giles said in his interview almost ran true, we looked scared of them.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #39
shmmeee said:
If we had Palmer and/or O’Hare I think you’d see a different tactic. But with the personnel we’ve got hoping for a bit of magic from Gus or Vik while the rest stay tight is probably our best hope.
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Yeah completely agree
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #40
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Vik was completely isolated anyway.
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Cause godden was playing Allen’s role
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #41
Sky Blue Pete said:
Cause godden was playing Allen’s role
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God knows what role Godden was playing yesterday. I'd be shocked if he even knew.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #42
Midweek away games this season: Played 5 Drawn 5

2-2 vs Luton
0-0 vs Bristol City
0-0 vs Preston
1-1 vs Wigan
1-1 vs Blackburn
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #43
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Midweek away games this season: Played 5 Drawn 5
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Midweek (Friday is midweek shut up) away playoff games ever: played 1 won 1
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #44
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
God knows what role Godden was playing yesterday. I'd be shocked if he even knew.
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As robins was really happy with his contribution it is pretty clear he was doing what he was asked with the hope that a chance might fall to him
Pretty sure Allen would play the role he’s better at if fit
Godden was harrying and hassling
Allen does this and more in that he makes attacking runs but misses chances
Godden doesn’t make many runs and makes the most of his chances
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #45
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KenilworthSkyBlue said:
God knows what role Godden was playing yesterday. I'd be shocked if he even knew.
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Trequartista on support
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #46
Sky Blue Pete said:
As robins was really happy with his contribution it is pretty clear he was doing what he was asked with the hope that a chance might fall to him
Pretty sure Allen would play the role he’s better at if fit
Godden was harrying and hassling
Allen does this and more in that he makes attacking runs but misses chances
Godden doesn’t make many runs and makes the most of his chances
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Well it isn't. His role would've been to support Gyokeres and he failed miserably at doing that.

There was no link whatsoever between the two players all game.

It's pointless playing him in a supporting role if there isn't a midfielder in behind pushing forward to try and create chances. He can't run and he's only ever effective when physically in the opposition's box.

There were points in the game where he was completely out of position or far too deep to do anything remotely impactful.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #47
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Well it isn't. His role would've been to support Gyokeres and he failed miserably at doing that.

There was no link whatsoever between two players all game.
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Lol
You think which
Robins didn’t explain himself
Godden didn’t do what he was asked
Robins was building confidence when asked and not saying what he truly thought
All of which could be true or none of it
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #48
Sky Blue Pete said:
Lol
You think which
Robins didn’t explain himself
Godden didn’t do what he was asked
Robins was building confidence when asked and not saying what he truly thought
All of which could be true or none of it
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If you honestly think Godden played well then frankly you're not worth conversing with.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #49
Sky Blue Pete said:
Lol
You think which
Robins didn’t explain himself
Godden didn’t do what he was asked
Robins was building confidence when asked and not saying what he truly thought
All of which could be true or none of it
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Option 3 clearly. He had a poor game.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #50
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
If you honestly think Godden played well then frankly you're not worth conversing with.
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I don’t think he impacted the game at all
I’m not his manager
For me robins asked him to do a role he’s not good at because Ohare palmer and Allen aren’t fit
 
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Yorkshire SB

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #51
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Vik was completely isolated anyway.
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True
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #52
I don’t think Godden played well. His role in the team is to finish off chances and in games where we struggle, he will not look good.

Realistically, if Sheaf is fit I’d play the box formation with Hamer and Allen behind Gyokeres. It should give us more energy on and off the ball without giving up a solid screen for the defence.

With Palmer and O’Hare in the side, I’d feel a lot more confident and our lack of depth is exposed somewhat.

To get to the playoffs without them in the first place is seriously impressive.
 
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MAFF

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #53
Spirit of Meadow Lane



(I think we'll lose 3-0)
 

Frostie

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #54


And the other team was....?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #55
Like a lot of people here, I'd go for the box but give Hamer a bit of licence to either play AM or drop slightly deeper.

Depends on who's fit, but I'd go:

Wilson
McNally Fadz Doyle
BNC Sheaf Kelly Bidwell
Hamer Allen
Gyok

Moore, Panzo, Dabo, JWE, Eccles, Palmer, Godden
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #56
Frostie said:
View attachment 29677

And the other team was....?
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Was it us in L2 or is this a Championship only statistic?
 
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napolimp

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #57
Sky Blue Pete said:
As robins was really happy with his contribution it is pretty clear he was doing what he was asked with the hope that a chance might fall to him
Pretty sure Allen would play the role he’s better at if fit
Godden was harrying and hassling
Allen does this and more in that he makes attacking runs but misses chances
Godden doesn’t make many runs and makes the most of his chances
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We can only assume Robins asked him to not win any headers, and do his best Salmon impression.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #58
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Indeed. Though real football fans should want to see O’Nien going off on a stretcher tomorrow evening
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The boro fans were complaining about the bias sky coverage towards us
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #59
Grendel said:
The boro fans were complaining about the bias sky coverage towards us
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I haven’t watched it and can’t say I intend to
 

Frostie

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #60
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Was it us in L2 or is this a Championship only statistic?
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Well, it's worded as in any EFL Playoffs but given the Muppets who run that account, who knows...

*EDIT Huddersfield in 2017 if it's Championship only?
 

Grendel

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #61
Sky Blue Pete said:
Allen not a cm though as he played Sunday
He needs to play behind yok
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? he’s played in central midfield with palmer in the team a lot this season
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #62
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I don’t think Godden played well. His role in the team is to finish off chances and in games where we struggle, he will not look good.

Realistically, if Sheaf is fit I’d play the box formation with Hamer and Allen behind Gyokeres. It should give us more energy on and off the ball without giving up a solid screen for the defence.

With Palmer and O’Hare in the side, I’d feel a lot more confident and our lack of depth is exposed somewhat.

To get to the playoffs without them in the first place is seriously impressive.
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I think that might cause us issues on Wednesday, especially in the second half.

With players coming back into the fold from injury, Middlesbrough will have a stronger bench in the next game with scope to do a lot more if it's all evens or they're behind.

3 games in the space of 9 days is a lot to cope with when you have a small squad. Especially when we've made a grand total of two substitutions in the past two games - both of those being Eccles.
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #63
We are better against them with a high press up front. Playing one Striker will just allow them to push forward at will. I have a felling Allen will come in for Eccles and Allen and Gus will take turns with the high press.
They are panicky at the back when pressed as we've seen over the last 2 games and still try to play out if they can. As soon they went long they invariably conceded possesion.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #64
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Midweek away games this season: Played 5 Drawn 5

2-2 vs Luton
0-0 vs Bristol City
0-0 vs Preston
1-1 vs Wigan
1-1 vs Blackburn
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Didn’t we play Middlesbrough away midweek, on bh Monday? 1-1 also
 

Offhegoes

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #65
Robins clearly had his mind on the 2nd leg, and probably thinks we can win the tie that way. Instruction was not to lose yesterday which we achieved. If the away leg was always going to be tough he would of sent us out to win the game yesterday.
 
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ccfcricoh

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #66
still think the winner of this semi gets promoted - 2 decent defences and dangerous going forwards.

Would like to see Allen in for Godden and we've got to hope Hamer is fit - keep it tight and sneak a 1.0
 

Skybluecol

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #67
Sheaf and Allen to come in for Eccles and Godden.
They're a type of side which would suit Sheaf to play against....Gyok needs to do more off the ball work too for us (he does so much already but he needs his A game on Wednesday)
2-2 draw AET
Penalties...have not got a clue
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #68
Offhegoes said:
Robins clearly had his mind on the 2nd leg, and probably thinks we can win the tie that way. Instruction was not to lose yesterday which we achieved. If the away leg was always going to be tough he would of sent us out to win the game yesterday.
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I think it was more than he was hesitant about going head to head with Middlesbrough given how lethal they are in attack.

Illogical to infer that he wanted this result when Middlesbrough have only lost three times at home all season.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #69
robbiethemole said:
Didn’t we play Middlesbrough away midweek, on bh Monday? 1-1 also
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Yes, but with over a week’s break since the previous came. This is purely games where we played away on the Tuesday or Wednesday after playing at the weekend too.

(Although actually saying that I don’t believe we played a game before Luton as it was one of our postponed games)
 
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robbiekeane

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  • May 15, 2023
  • #70
Two wins from the premier league. Say that out loud
 
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