At least a c**t is useful, they dribble less too.
Is that you making your one appearance for Stenhousemuir?So the next time CCFC are taken out of Coventry and turned into a franchise team you'll be all for it? Ya fucking knob Jockey!!!
Is that you making your one appearance for Stenhousemuir?
You'll always a be plonker or a ballsack.
Not since I blocked you and your wife on snapchatYou've never seen a "Cream Pie" then?
Not really. For example why having beaten Chelsea 3-2 on the opening day of the season did our next game against Bolton attract a miserly 16,700?
"Bournemouth came into the Championship as League One’s biggest spenders and on a hefty £15m loss"
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The only difference between shef utd who will be promoted to the championship and ourselves is they have owners who are willing to invest and have a vision of improvement for their club.
Time to go SISU pay peanuts you get monkeys and the results to show.
Hope sisu are proud of what theyve done to a proud club and 100 years of history
The analysis of average attendances at the club will be what is viewed by "investors" and assessing "potential"
It throws up some interesting facts:
What does relegation to to attendances? - The club will have a steep decline. The decline was 28% when the club fell into League One. Is this a Sisu impact? No not really. The decline was 24% in the season the club fell out the Premier League.
A lot is made of the fact we have "potential" as when the club moved to the Ricoh we had average attendances of 20,000 plus and only Sisu have caused a decline. Not really.
The last season at H Road attendances averaged 16,000. The first season at the Ricoh the average was 21,180
Next season before Sisu we saw a (4%) decline
Following season when Sisu took over (and there was no negativity then) the drop was (6%)
Over the next three seasons the declines varied but averaged (5%) per season
So in the end we were back to 16,000 - the new stadium impact had eroded in 6 seasons
Success will see increases (new ground impact can be classed as success of sorts) but then the averages fall back again. When the club won the Cup gates rose by 39% but despite 3 successive seasons in the top 10 (including a 7th) gates then remained static and as soon as the club finished 12 four seasons later we saw a (20%) decline in attendances
As for needing a 25,000 stadium we haven't had an average of 25,000 since 1971 and the highest is 23,000 in 1978. So why would a company want to build something we will rarely fill?
The analysis of average attendances at the club will be what is viewed by "investors" and assessing "potential"
It throws up some interesting facts:
What does relegation to to attendances? - The club will have a steep decline. The decline was 28% when the club fell into League One. Is this a Sisu impact? No not really. The decline was 24% in the season the club fell out the Premier League.
A lot is made of the fact we have "potential" as when the club moved to the Ricoh we had average attendances of 20,000 plus and only Sisu have caused a decline. Not really.
The last season at H Road attendances averaged 16,000. The first season at the Ricoh the average was 21,180
Next season before Sisu we saw a (4%) decline
Following season when Sisu took over (and there was no negativity then) the drop was (6%)
Over the next three seasons the declines varied but averaged (5%) per season
So in the end we were back to 16,000 - the new stadium impact had eroded in 6 seasons
Success will see increases (new ground impact can be classed as success of sorts) but then the averages fall back again. When the club won the Cup gates rose by 39% but despite 3 successive seasons in the top 10 (including a 7th) gates then remained static and as soon as the club finished 12 four seasons later we saw a (20%) decline in attendances
As for needing a 25,000 stadium we haven't had an average of 25,000 since 1971 and the highest is 23,000 in 1978. So why would a company want to build something we will rarely fill?
Doesn't matter what they are losing, for every Bournemouth there are more Clubs with huge debt that are nowhere near knocking on the door to the PL (e.g Forest), or worse been in admin or gone bust. Its one of the reasons we are where we are now.How much are they losing now?
Doesn't matter what they are losing now. for every Bournemouth there are more Clubs with huge debt that are nowhere near knocking on the door to the PL (e.g Forest), or worse been in admin or gone bust.
I don't know the answer to the question anyway, but despite the so-called riches in the Premiership, the experience of clubs such as Bolton, Blackburn... us is that getting the top flight TV cash might give you the spending power to service the humungous debt you run up spending a fortune on wages etc, but it's all dependent on staying up there. Fall down the trapdoor if you're a small to middling club and doom awaits, if you don't get back quickly.
Not since I blocked you and your wife on snapchat
Yep. Its a very short termist view. Interestingly thr Bournemouth owners loaned not gifted the money. I wonder how much of those loans or interest hes had back since being in the top flight.I don't know the answer to the question anyway, but despite the so-called riches in the Premiership, the experience of clubs such as Bolton, Blackburn... us is that getting the top flight TV cash might give you the spending power to service the humungous debt you run up spending a fortune on wages etc, but it's all dependent on staying up there. Fall down the trapdoor if you're a small to middling club and doom awaits, if you don't get back quickly.
This is exactly what I tell my Chelsea supporting mates. They're forever taking the piss out of me for being a city fan. I always say to them that I can't wait until Abramovic gets bored. See where Chelsea are when that happens.I personally can't wait for the likes of Chelsea going "Pop" when Abramovic pulls out and "Calls in the £1b+ in loans to the Football Club/Chelsea Village... Should be interesting to see what precedent that situation sets.
Yep. Its a very short termist view. Interestingly thr Bournemouth owners loaned not gifted the money. I wonder how much of those loans or interest hes had back since being in the top flight.
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It's incredible to think they lost £54 million in two seasons in the championship. In sure it was £10 million plus in league one as well.
It's horrendous and incredible they are being cited as a way forward.
Relegation would be disastrous. It will be interesting to see the accounts this year and how much money has been chucked on wages to keep them up. I think it will be an eye opener for many.
And there is the problem. Their owners have done what they thought was best for their club. Ours have done what they thought was best for them. They have improved. We continue to slip lower.You know some people should learn to read.
My post about Bournemouth was to illustrate that "success" was not dependent on large crowd numbers, not advocating massive debt or losses. The "success" is dependent on the decisions the owners and directors make above all else. There is no set way to run a football club. Fans have very little if any say or influence be it as small or large numbers of them. Are the owners prepared to risk their money or even are they brave enough to tackle root cause problems or do they carry on regardless with no clear plan of how
Bournemouth owners chose to get to the Premiership by large interest free loans from the owners. Much of which is classified as long term not current debt. Ok so long as the money not required to be repaid - that would be a big problem
Sheffield United have arranged their finances around the owners putting in share capital rather than loans. Share monies cant be demanded to be repaid easily. Issue of new shares contributes to SCMP also
CCFC have spent 10's of millions of interest bearing loan money, classified it as current debt, simply to help keep afloat, failing on the pitch and no clear plan ahead
The key decision maker for all three clubs are the owners
The analysis of average attendances at the club will be what is viewed by "investors" and assessing "potential"
It throws up some interesting facts:
What does relegation to to attendances? - The club will have a steep decline. The decline was 28% when the club fell into League One. Is this a Sisu impact? No not really. The decline was 24% in the season the club fell out the Premier League.
A lot is made of the fact we have "potential" as when the club moved to the Ricoh we had average attendances of 20,000 plus and only Sisu have caused a decline. Not really.
The last season at H Road attendances averaged 16,000. The first season at the Ricoh the average was 21,180
Next season before Sisu we saw a (4%) decline
Following season when Sisu took over (and there was no negativity then) the drop was (6%)
Over the next three seasons the declines varied but averaged (5%) per season
So in the end we were back to 16,000 - the new stadium impact had eroded in 6 seasons
Success will see increases (new ground impact can be classed as success of sorts) but then the averages fall back again. When the club won the Cup gates rose by 39% but despite 3 successive seasons in the top 10 (including a 7th) gates then remained static and as soon as the club finished 12 four seasons later we saw a (20%) decline in attendances
As for needing a 25,000 stadium we haven't had an average of 25,000 since 1971 and the highest is 23,000 in 1978. So why would a company want to build something we will rarely fill?
Personally I love how some of the same posters who hold Bournemouth's capacity up as a reason why we can move to a 12K BPA and still be successful then ask who would want Bournemouth's financial model. Talk about having your cake and eat it.
It is why they are not really a big club.I personally can't wait for the likes of Chelsea going "Pop" when Abramovic pulls out and "Calls in the £1b+ in loans to the Football Club/Chelsea Village... Should be interesting to see what precedent that situation sets.
No mention of Sisu lovers.
What about the owners before SISU? Did anyone blame them for our success?
Sheff Utd / Coventry Chalk and Cheese.
My eyes are wide open pal, wide enough to see the whole picture not the bullshit, spin media bollocks that is so readily swallowed by those with sub-level intelligence.
Where was the blame when we bought Fox, Dann, Westwood, Gunnarson etc and that investment brought nothing.
Was THAT SISUs fault too?
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Which is what Richardson did to us to start our downfall which ended up with SISU taking us over. But you say that he is not guilty of anything.Not really - if its 12,000 or 20,000 it makes no difference in terms of the spend they made - it would have still been a whacking great loss.
Very true, we did buy those players, but!... Within 9 months Dann and Fox were sold, Westwood was treated abominably so walked away, and Gunarsson could see the owners had no ambition whatsoever, and did the same as Westwood..... So YES it was SISU's fault.
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