As said in the other thread weeks ago, of course they can't force things.
As said, if they did then Wasps could just whack 00000's onto the rent. As could other landlords of 1 stadium cities.
Well that's the problemWe probably should've thought about that before throwing away a long term tenancy, not that I think they would.
From the other side, how much is it reasonable for a club to pay to stay in their city?
Can London teams like Wimbledon relocate because London property is expensive?
All of this comes back to it being fucking stupid to make out football clubs are normal businesses that can be traded as such. In any other case there's no issue where a company is located, but with football that doesn't apply.
We need government legislation on this.
We probably should've thought about that before throwing away a long term tenancy, not that I think they would.
From the other side, how much is it reasonable for a club to pay to stay in their city?
Can London teams like Wimbledon relocate because London property is expensive?
All of this comes back to it being fucking stupid to make out football clubs are normal businesses that can be traded as such. In any other case there's no issue where a company is located, but with football that doesn't apply.
We need government legislation on this.
Please revert to my reply in point number 1It isn't just us though, it is every team.
If they say "you must have a deal to play in Coventry by Christmas Day 2015" then wasps can just say on Christmas Eve an amount and it has to be done.
Not if a 10 years contract already in place.
The same as any other landlord of a football ground could just whack the rent up because they have to pay it or the club is kicked out of the league.
See my reply above to point number 1.
It was said what they would say weeks before she even met the FL, more of a PR stunt than her actually wanting answers as city fans could have given them to her.
No CCFC fan could guarantee any answers
If Wimbledon are paying the "going rate" for london land / property then I am sure thats ok, if their landlord was able to be in a position that Wimbledon had to play at his stadium or be kicked out of the league he would be laughing.
Please revert to my reply in point number 1
So the landlord has the monopoly on the 10 year contract dont they if their stadium is the only place the team can play or get kicked out of the league!
In 10 years, rinse and repeat.
I thought we were talking about NOW!...Rinse and repeat!
[QUOTE="SkyBlueZack, post: 1185260, member: 5249"]Wasps will want a contract for more than 10 years. Helps with stadium sponsorship and bonds. They also reportedly want a deal without break clauses? Wasps will also want a substantial increase in rent. This is a PR ploy by a councillor* (surprise surprise) to push the club into a corner. It is the club being pushed into a corner and not SISU as it is the club who will be liable for the rent. I have said time and again the council needs to justify it's sale to Wasps therefore CCFC is seen as collateral damage. I get the impression fans will be happy with a rent increase because it will be SISUs fault and they deserve it. The club don't though. We have been used by the council in their attempt at playing arena operators and we're now being pushed to paying for Wasps adventure in Coventry.
Most people knew what the FL would say, we know there only concern is fixtures and not being sued.
*Would IMO have carried more credence if it had come from an ex-player or manager or even Elliott or Hoffman. By it being a councillor it looks and feels political.
*Would IMO have carried more credence if it had come from an ex-player or manager or even Elliott or Hoffman. By it being a councillor it looks and feels political.
We'll never know now... Will we?
And if the football league could force teams to play at a single stadium, landlords would be sending MPs before they did the 10 year deal to make sure the team had no other option.So if there was a 10 years minmum contract(Just for SkyBlueZack) It gives the Football Club 10 years to come up with a stadium.. Mind you at the pace SISU/CCFC are going we might get the shithouses built and perhaps a changing room!
And if the football league could force teams to play at a single stadium, landlords would be sending MPs before they did the 10 year deal to make sure the team had no other option.
So the landlord has the monopoly on the 10 year contract dont they if their stadium is the only place the team can play or get kicked out of the league!
In 10 years, rinse and repeat.
Well, yeah. That's why throwing away a guaranteed tenancy agreement with nothing to go to fucking stupid. It's why building a stadium should be priority one. Your landlord has you by the balls.
But if I set up a business in Hollywood catering to film stars, I can't bitch it the rent goes up and I can only afford Bumfuck nowhere. I should've factored that into the business plan.
Coventry City customers are in Coventry, everyone apart from the club seems to recognise this. That means that for the club to not have to worry about other entities controlling it's future (again, not that there's any evidence they are) step one is sort the stadium out. That's why people are worried. That's why people say Sisu are shitty owners.
And if I could get pregnant, I'd be the richest man in the World! Who the f**k is saying that? Certainly not me! All it takes is common sense, and terms that suit all sides... Then again we're talking about SISU again, aren't we!
The next question to the FA or FL, should be what happens if there is no agreement re a ground and when ? and if the golden share is removed what happens ? We all have to remember there are 71 other members of the FL and the league
Can't be seen to favour one above the other.
The tenancy agreement that was also signed because they didnt have much choice?
I haven't said SISU are good owners, just that the FL can't force deals like that.
Nobody is saying about the rent going up, it is the monopoly that the landlord would have so the FL can't create that position by saying "it has to be there else you are out of the league".
And if they do not alter there position? The ball is in the hands of SISU.They also can't be seen to be forcing people into agreements.
I'd guess it would depend on the situation, ie if Wasps still "refuse" to negotiate.
I'm not claiming the frying pan wasn't hot, just that maybe we should've considered options other than the fire when jumping.
The mistake was throwing out all our cards in the hope of winning legal action.
Let's be honest here mate, we are how many years in without so much as a land purchase?
Put it in football terms: you don't sell your only goalie, even if he is shit, before you've found a better one.
Erm, wasn't the whole idea of the meeting the MP going to the FL to try and get them to say they will block any moves away from Coventry? Where there is only 1 stadium?
People knew before she was even briefed by somebody with the questions what would be said.
And if they do not alter there position? The ball is in the hands of SISU.
Erm, wasn't the whole idea of coming back to the Ricoh from Northampton to discuss a rental agreement with Wasps and NOT let every CCFC supporter round the UK. on the DAY of return know that "It is only a temporary measure till we build our own stadium in three years"
Btw Mr Fisher where is it?
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