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Mcnulty Struggling at Hibs (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date May 6, 2019
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Nick

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #36
covboy1987 said:
Why can Reading getting attendances 14000 + and we get attendances of 12000 + and they can afford to give McNulty a 4-year contract - Potentially if we had kept McNulty and he kept his scoring rate up in league 1 - more than likely we would have been in the top 2 and playing before crowds of 20,000+ the extra 8000 on the gate would have paid for McNulty wages with plenty of change
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It's almost as if it isn't all about attendances.
 

Grendel

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #37
covboy1987 said:
Currently spending more than they generate along with many clubs with ambition
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Like Notts County?
 
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covboy1987

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #38
Grendel said:
Like Notts County?
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Depends on who's in charge and running the business - plenty of examples such as Notts County - Macclesfield another one -
 

Nick

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #39
covboy1987 said:
Depends on who's in charge and running the business - plenty of examples such as Notts County - Macclesfield another one -
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Would have thought Notts County were ambitious spending so much?

Sums it up really, it's ambition if it works but then bad ownership if it doesn't. When the money tap stops, everybody gets angry and starts marching.
 
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covboy1987

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #40
SAJ said:
Would have thought it was obvious. Championship teams receive about 10 times the money for tv than league one teams. Reading own the ground and rent it to a Rugby team. Even though they only average say 2000 more per game than we do that’s about another million just on tickets.
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agree championship teams receive 10 times as much money - but you need to invest to get to the championship
 
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covboy1987

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #41
Nick said:
Would have thought Notts County were ambitious spending so much?
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Nearly worked as they got to the plays offs last season and were beaten by a better team with a proven goalscorer
 

skybluebeduff

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #42
Adam Armstrong has done shit since his one season with us, why don't we obsess about him?
 

Nick

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #43
covboy1987 said:
Nearly worked as they got to the plays offs last season and were beaten by a better team with a proven goalscorer
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Then they got relegated from the Football League the season after after buying 2 proven Goalscorers.
 
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SAJ

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #44
covboy1987 said:
agree championship teams receive 10 times as much money - but you need to invest to get to the championship
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Don’t disagree at all. There are a variety of ways of investing I guess. The most common one seems to be throw loads of money at the problem and hope you get lucky. Or the method we seem to be using at present is to try and improve slowly without quite as much risk. Since Robins has arrived he seems to have taken us forward and let’s hope he does the same next season.
 
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covboy1987

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #45
Good example of investment are Luton Town a team relegated to the conference not so many years ago - Coventry and Luton were fighting over the signature of a certain James Collins - Coventry lost out - Collins top goalscorer in league 25 goals
 

Grendel

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #46
covboy1987 said:
Good example of investment are Luton Town a team relegated to the conference not so many years ago - Coventry and Luton were fighting over the signature of a certain James Collins - Coventry lost out - Collins top goalscorer in league 25 goals
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We signed mcnulty instead who out scored Collins last season - so if we’d signed Collins we may not even have been promoted
 
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Nick

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #47
covboy1987 said:
Good example of investment are Luton Town a team relegated to the conference not so many years ago - Coventry and Luton were fighting over the signature of a certain James Collins - Coventry lost out - Collins top goalscorer in league 25 goals
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We weren't fighting as we didn't bid, we brought in McNulty.
 
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covboy1987

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #48
Grendel said:
We signed mcnulty instead who out scored Collins last season - so if we’d signed Collins we may not even have been promoted
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We might now be in the championship if we had them both
 

Grendel

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #49
covboy1987 said:
We might now be in the championship if we had them both
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Jesus Christ
 

Nick

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #50
covboy1987 said:
We might now be in the championship if we had them both
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Depends really.

Would we be if we were playing only one of them up front in our system as opposed to Luton's attacking system?

Keep moving the goalposts about though.
 

skybluegod

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #51
covboy1987 said:
We might now be in the championship if we had them both
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We might be if we bought Messi too.
 

higgs

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #52
City


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SkyblueBazza

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #53
covboy1987 said:
Depends on who's in charge and running the business - plenty of examples such as Notts County - Macclesfield another one -
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Yes...some it has/does/will work. Very very few find it a sustainable strategy.

We tried it to an extent post '87...to push on to that next level. It caught up with us.

Sadly there is also the belief/perception out there is that unless you move to a glamour club you will only win scraps of medals & are much less likely to play for your country.

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covcity4life

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #54
Tommo1993 said:
What is it with Cov fans? McNulty, Stockdale, let it go ffs.
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Letting it go is exactly why we need stockdale remember
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #55
Nick said:
Depends really.

Would we be if we were playing only one of them up front in our system as opposed to Luton's attacking system?

Keep moving the goalposts about though.
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Maybe that’s why we’re not scoring?
 
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fellatio_Martinez

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #56
Didn't McNulty act like a bit of a twat while trying to get his move to the big time? I remember Robins saying something to that effect.
 

SBAndy

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #57
fellatio_Martinez said:
Didn't McNulty act like a bit of a twat while trying to get his move to the big time? I remember Robins saying something to that effect.
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Think it was more his agent.
 

SBAndy

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #58
Oh and while we’re on the subject of McNulty, seen him playing v Rangers yesterday, looked fat as fuck.
 

fatso

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #59
Look, we had the best out of McNulty, and let’s not forget he was a bag of shite for the first half of the promotion season. He had a fantastic 5 months or so, was instrumental in us getting out of league 2, then we sold him for a profit and replaced him with the sensationally prolific Chaplin.
Now can we please move on!
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #60
ccfcway said:
Can see a club like Bolton getting him
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Agree - they've got loads of money to...…..oh, hang on a minute.
 

fellatio_Martinez

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #61
SBAndy said:
Think it was more his agent.
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I'm sure Robins wants nowt more to do with McFatty and his dickhead agent after whatever happened.
 

pusbccfc

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #62
I genuinely think we'd have finished with at least 12 extra points with McNulty this season.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #63
The grass isn’t always greener...

I liked McNulty, I hoped that when he moved on he would do well as I don’t resent a player moving to further his career, but it hasn’t worked for him. I do think his agent advised him badly, Reading were always going to be fighting relegation, McNulty would’ve been better off with us, helping us to the Championship or at least League One playoffs.

Would I have him back now? I’m not sure McNulty would suit the style we are playing, but he scores goals and that’s the vital thing, so yes I would.


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fernandopartridge

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #64
covboy1987 said:
After a good start, Mark McNulty is struggling at Hibs on loan - should we try and get him back
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It isn't happening, let's move on
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #65
covboy1987 said:
Probably correct statement, as your right, saying unrealistic in the current way we go about our business but something I don't agree on - for example, Salford now at Wembley and could be in league 2 next season paying Adam Rooney £4,000 a week a proven goalscorer so far 21 goals in 38 games for Salford - Salford directors are not stupid and they do not seem the type to throw money with no return - they are investing for the future which we need to follow suit
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They won't get a return, they are making big losses. Accumulated P&L increased by £1.7m from 2017 to 2018. Utterly unsustainable and no example to follow for anybody
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #66
ccfcway said:
Can see a club like Bolton getting him
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Not Bolton themselves mind you as they're under embargo. Ipswich possibly
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 6, 2019
  • #67
fernandopartridge said:
They won't get a return, they are making big losses. Accumulated P&L increased by £1.7m from 2017 to 2018. Utterly unsustainable and no example to follow for anybody
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Yeah but they get headlines on Sky Sports News and people go on about ambition. Fast forward a few years and it's then demanding the football league step in and let down by the EFL.

What the EFL should be doing is not allowing stupid losses and clamping down on it, they won't though.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #68
Anyone that wouldn't have McNulty back over our current strike force needs to be sectioned.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #69
Nick said:
Yeah but they get headlines on Sky Sports News and people go on about ambition. Fast forward a few years and it's then demanding the football league step in and let down by the EFL.

What the EFL should be doing is not allowing stupid losses and clamping down on it, they won't though.
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Non league has even less regulation. If you think about it 4k a week in exchange for just 21 goals at that level is a piss poor return
 

Nick

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  • May 6, 2019
  • #70
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Non league has even less regulation. If you think about it 4k a week in exchange for just 21 goals at that level is a piss poor return
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Not even the League's top scorer either.

Blair Turgott got 14.
 
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