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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #71
Nick said:
Oh god, still on about that one from Solihull?
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PVA

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #72
The Philosopher said:
He’s 6’2’ and strong.

Waghorn is 5’9/10, strong maybe but I’ve not seen him bring the ball down for the air with back to goal like Vic.

Still waiting for who we’d play up front if Vic is off….

Anyone….Bueller….Bueller
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If Gyokeres was out and we wanted to play a lone striker it would be Godden.

At the moment we have Godden, Walker and probably Waghorn injured. So we don't have a Gyokeres replacement right now.

That doesn't mean we don't have enough strikers.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #73
The Philosopher said:
He’s 6’2’ and strong.

Waghorn is 5’9/10, strong maybe but I’ve not seen him bring the ball down for the air with back to goal like Vic.

Still waiting for who we’d play up front if Vic is off….

Anyone….Bueller….Bueller
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The answer to this is we would have to adapt the system and play to the strength of 'poachers' as you call them. Sticking Biamou in Vik's role in this team is a laughable suggestion. Vik runs whole defensive lines ragged. Biamou ran ragged chasing his first touch.
 

The Philosopher

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #74
Nick said:
Oh god, still on about that one from Solihull?
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Err… nope.

Good attempt at deflecting though.

Bottom line:

We’ve no back up to Vic.

Waghorn hasn’t set anything on fire for the money.

Max, at the time, may have been a better option to keep and use the extra few hundred grand saved on something useful.
 
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The Philosopher

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #75
PVA said:
If Gyokeres was out and we wanted to play a lone striker it would be Godden.

At the moment we have Godden, Walker and probably Waghorn injured. So we don't have a Gyokeres replacement right now.

That doesn't mean we don't have enough strikers.
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It means we’ve got two over 31 who have injury history and Walker.
 

Robinshio

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #76
our bench last night was fairly strong
2 more injuries later and we are now bare bones
I think at the moment we are ok, but another couple of injuries, and we are then struggling across the team
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #77
The Philosopher said:
Err… nope.

Good attempt at deflecting though.

Bottom line:

We’ve no back up to Vic.

Waghorn hasn’t set anything on fire for the money.

Max, at the time, may have been a better option to keep and use the extra few hundred grand saved on something useful.
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Even worse, biamou

It's not deflecting.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #78
The Philosopher said:
Err… nope.

Good attempt at deflecting though.

Bottom line:

We’ve no back up to Vic.

Waghorn hasn’t set anything on fire for the money.

Max, at the time, may have been a better option to keep and use the extra few hundred grand saved on something useful.
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No he wouldn’t have been.
Waghorn is 10 times the player even now and still offers us more than Biamou ever did who was one of the meekest strikers I’ve seen play for us.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #79
covcity4life said:
So just to confirm you think he was a decent player in a promotion year.

So literally no reason to dislike him

You like G just love to hate players. Wilson is your current obsession
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I don’t dislike him, I just don’t think he was good enough.
An opinion which was obviously shared by Robins and has been proven to have been spot on since he was released.
You clearly rate him and Wilson, which says it all - haha!
 

The Philosopher

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #80
Sick Boy said:
No he wouldn’t have been.
Waghorn is 10 times the player even now and still offers us more than Biamou ever did who was one of the meekest strikers I’ve seen play for us.
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If Waghorn (1300 mins last year, that’s about 30% of possible, 1 goal) is 10 times anyone I’d be surprised. Love to know £per minute / contribution.

Not slating Waghorn, just once again, bizarre signing and not cheap or a gamble to develop and sell on.

That MR wanted to ship him out and got no takers should say enough.
 

olderskyblue

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #81
Nick said:
I'm tall, doesn't mean I should be signed up as a backup to gyo.
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No. Maybe a back up to Fadz though….
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #82
The Philosopher said:
If Waghorn (1300 mins last year, that’s about 30% of possible, 1 goal) is 10 times anyone I’d be surprised. Love to know £per minute / contribution.

Not slating Waghorn, just once again, bizarre signing and not cheap or a gamble to develop and sell on.

That MR wanted to ship him out and got no takers should say enough.
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How many games has your suggested replacement played since leaving us?
Robins clearly felt he wasn’t good enough, which has been shown to be spot on since - I’d be amazed if he ever plays in the EFL again.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #83
The Philosopher said:
He’s 6’2’ and strong.

Waghorn is 5’9/10, strong maybe but I’ve not seen him bring the ball down for the air with back to goal like Vic.

Still waiting for who we’d play up front if Vic is off….

Anyone….Bueller….Bueller
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Gyokeres is quite tall and is definitely strong but he hardly ever heads the ball. We don't play that way anyway.

How is Hudlin doing btw?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #84
Yeah Gyokeres isn't really that good in the air.

Godden is surprisingly good and wins his fair share of headers
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #85
Sick Boy said:
I don’t dislike him, I just don’t think he was good enough.
An opinion which was obviously shared by Robins and has been proven to have been spot on since he was released.
You clearly rate him and Wilson, which says it all - haha!
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I felt he was a good player for us in league 1 and 2. I'm not saying I want him here now

And Wilson is not as bad as uou say but he's also not brilliant. Hence my cirticism of him yesterday

Maybe it's because I'm in my forties but this internet hyperbole bullshit is getting so boring
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #86
PVA said:
If Gyokeres was out and we wanted to play a lone striker it would be Godden.

At the moment we have Godden, Walker and probably Waghorn injured. So we don't have a Gyokeres replacement right now.

That doesn't mean we don't have enough strikers.
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Godden should have been sent packing when the Huddersfield enquiry came in
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #87
Grendel said:
Godden should have been sent packing when the Huddersfield enquiry came in
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I think he maybe fancied it.
Newly married , getting on now, possibly a financial windfall.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #88
Some of the replies - dear me

 
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Frostie

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #89
Deleted member 9744 said:
How is Hudlin doing btw?
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Can't get a game for the team in 16th place in League 2. To the surprise of absolutely nobody who has seen him play.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #90
Grendel said:
Godden should have been sent packing when the Huddersfield enquiry came in
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£700k for a striker that had just scored 12 in 24 in the Championship would be terrible business.

Luton paid £1.5m for a striker that had just scored 7 in 28 in the Championship.

Huddersfield spent £500k on a striker that had just scored 9 goals in League 2.

Goalscorers are expensive.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #91
PVA said:
£700k for a striker that had just scored 12 in 24 in the Championship would be terrible business.

Luton paid £1.5m for a striker that had just scored 7 in 28 in the Championship.

Huddersfield spent £500k on a striker that had just scored 9 goals in League 2.

Goalscorers are expensive.
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How much did we pay for Gyokeres?
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #92
Grendel said:
How much did we pay for Gyokeres?
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£750k after he'd just scored 3 in 30.

Thanks for providing another example to prove my point
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #93
PVA said:
£750k after he'd just scored 3 in 19.

Thanks for providing another example to prove my point
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Er it proves the opposite - Gyokeres was an obvious talent ( well you said you would have kept Biamou but hey ho) - he hasnt scored 12 in 24 has he? Its only 3 in the last 12. Did he score 9 in the previous 12 last season?

How much in the transfer market is he worth in your opinion?
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #94
Grendel said:
Er it proves the opposite - Gyokeres was an obvious talent ( well you said you would have kept Biamou but hey ho) - he hasnt scored 12 in 24 has he? Its only 3 in the last 12. Did he score 9 in the previous 12 last season?

How much in the transfer market is he worth in your opinion?
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He literally scored 12 in 24 last season. Even you can't deny that.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #95
PVA said:
He literally scored 12 in 24 last season. Even you can't deny that.
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But he hasn't this season has he or does that not count

Fact is we should never have extended the deal as we did. He's getting slower and slower, he has gone what 8 games without a goal , contributes nothing when he doesn't score and we would have actually recouped what we paid

How much is he worth in the transfer market in your opinion?
 

jordan210

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #96
I don’t get how max hasn’t signed for a league 1 club.

Does he still live in cov ?
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #97
Grendel said:
But he hasn't this season has he or does that not count

Fact is we should never have extended the deal as we did. He's getting slower and slower, he has gone what 8 games without a goal , contributes nothing when he doesn't score and we would have actually recouped what we paid

How much is he worth in the transfer market in your opinion?
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What are you talking about? Huddersfield aren’t bidding now are they? They bid in the summer, when he’d just scored 12 goals in 24 games. I don’t know how I can make that any clearer.

You said we’d get £150k for Hyam and we got 10 times that so forgive me for not holding much faith in your valuations of your latest boo boy.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #98
PVA said:
What are you talking about? Huddersfield aren’t bidding now are they? They bid in the summer, when he’d just scored 12 goals in 24 games. I don’t know how I can make that any clearer.

You said we’d get £150k for Hyam and we got 10 times that so forgive me for not holding much faith in your valuations of your latest boo boy.
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How much is godden worth?
 

The Philosopher

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #99
jordan210 said:
I don’t get how max hasn’t signed for a league 1 club.

Does he still live in cov ?
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Someone on here said they’d spoken to him recently. Injured. Training with a team though.

I’m totally guessing Shrewsbury. Just because.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #100
Grendel said:
But he hasn't this season has he or does that not count

Fact is we should never have extended the deal as we did. He's getting slower and slower, he has gone what 8 games without a goal , contributes nothing when he doesn't score and we would have actually recouped what we paid

How much is he worth in the transfer market in your opinion?
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You'd have sold him at that point in time to a relegation rival?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #101
PVA said:
£700k for a striker that had just scored 12 in 24 in the Championship would be terrible business.

Luton paid £1.5m for a striker that had just scored 7 in 28 in the Championship.

Huddersfield spent £500k on a striker that had just scored 9 goals in League 2.

Goalscorers are expensive.
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It's good business for a striker who is past 30 and won't play more than 25 games in a season anyway.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #102
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You'd have sold him at that point in time to a relegation rival?
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yes - you? Also I don’t know why PVA likes the post as he thinks we aren’t a relegation candidate at all!
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #103
fernandopartridge said:
It's good business for a striker who is past 30 and won't play more than 25 games in a season anyway.
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Exactly. His transfer market value is nil. He has another year on his contract abd is clearly in decline. Our handing out of contract extensions is poor
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #104
You are laughing PVA but you won’t say what he’s actually worth…
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 26, 2022
  • #105
Grendel said:
yes - you? Also I don’t know why PVA likes the post as he thinks we aren’t a relegation candidate at all!
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Think it would have been very difficult to justify to the rest of the squad just after forcing Hyam out of the door on the cheap. Also not sure how you'd have reacted to him inevitably scoring against us in the corresponding fixtures
 
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