Transfer Rumour Matty James (3 Viewers)

Cally Fedora · Sep 3, 2024

Put yourself in Kings shoes as the owner of a loss making operation.
Robins “can I have cash for Torp, Bassette, Mason-Clark, Thomas-Asante, Binks, Dovin and Rodrigues. Can you reject offers for Simms, Wright, Van Ewijk and Sheaf.
Doug “done”.
Robins “actually forget Torp can I have more money for James now”.

Balli001 · Sep 3, 2024

Cally Fedora said:
Put yourself in Kings shoes as the owner of a loss making operation.
Robins “can I have cash for Torp, Bassette, Mason-Clark, Thomas-Asante, Binks, Dovin and Rodrigues. Can you reject offers for Simms, Wright, Van Ewijk and Sheaf.
Doug “done”.
Robins “actually forget Torp can I have more money for James now”.

That is all true but we have just offloaded Palmers wages and not replaced him with any position

JSL · Sep 3, 2024

But he doesnt need money. Just wages which have been saved by selling KP

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 3, 2024

JSL said:
But he doesnt ned money. Just wages which have been saved by selling KP

The difference in professionalism between Palmer and James is huge also.

wingy · Sep 3, 2024

Deity said:
Jesus we have some post window revisionism going on here.

Let’s be honest if we had signed James early in the window as our new midfielder we would all have been underwhelmed.

I can totally understand King saying no we can buy better and younger. We would all have thought we could.

However now that we haven’t and the window is shut and Sheaf has highlighted what we are missing I think James would be an ok stop gap but that’s it.

Cally Fedora said:
Put yourself in Kings shoes as the owner of a loss making operation.
Robins “can I have cash for Torp, Bassette, Mason-Clark, Thomas-Asante, Binks, Dovin and Rodrigues. Can you reject offers for Simms, Wright, Van Ewijk and Sheaf.
Doug “done”.
Robins “actually forget Torp can I have more money for James now”.

I'm not sure many of those player's have Mr demanding them just nodding his head!

Sbarcher · Sep 3, 2024

Can’t recall having a song for MJ. Do we have one to dust off or too soon to add a new one to the repertoire?

David O'Day · Sep 3, 2024

Sbarcher said:
Can’t recall having a song for MJ. Do we have one to dust off or too soon to add a new one to the repertoire?

He played when there was no one there didn't he? So not much chance for anyone to make a song popular for him.

Evo1883 · Sep 3, 2024

James would be a decent deal at this point , we all know he's a good footballer

SHUNT31 · Sep 3, 2024

All this talk of the ‘model’. Look at Brighton, similar to what we want to do (scaled up 10 times) and yet they have a James Milner.

steve cooper · Sep 3, 2024

Cally Fedora said:
Robins “can I have cash for Torp, Bassette, Mason-Clark, Thomas-Asante, Binks, Dovin and Rodrigues.

I would say most of those were Doug's idea with a view to making a profit in the future. MR wouldn't say no to extra depth in attack but as said, some of that money should have gone to provide more balance across the team.

Perennial Lurker · Sep 3, 2024

Platnauer said:
The Stamenic deal falling through still has ripples. As it was so public (from RS Belgrade) we were on the verge on signing him, it became obvious to Browne he was only a 'back up' plan. The vibes were that Browne wanted to join, but then turned away when he felt slighted (understandably). We are then behind the curve with CM recruitment, took a shot at Bernede but Lausanne don't want/need to sell (owned by INEOS).
Sheaf then gets crocked and we are looking mighty thin in midfield.
We are, where we are now. But, this is an example of where the loan policy needs to be relaxed.

I think we were looking at James McConnell from Liverpool until he got unfortunately injured

napolimp · Sep 3, 2024

Platnauer said:
The Stamenic deal falling through still has ripples. As it was so public (from RS Belgrade) we were on the verge on signing him, it became obvious to Browne he was only a 'back up' plan. The vibes were that Browne wanted to join, but then turned away when he felt slighted (understandably). We are then behind the curve with CM recruitment, took a shot at Bernede but Lausanne don't want/need to sell (owned by INEOS).
Sheaf then gets crocked and we are looking mighty thin in midfield.
We are, where we are now. But, this is an example of where the loan policy needs to be relaxed.

How do you know what Browne was thinking? We may not even have been in for him.

Stamenic didn't want to come here, so ultimately it's irrelevant because there's no point signing a player that doesn't want to be at the club.

Saddlebrains · Sep 3, 2024

napolimp said:
How do you know what Browne was thinking? We may not even have been in for him.

Stamenic didn't want to come here, so ultimately it's irrelevant because there's no point signing a player that doesn't want to be at the club.

We were

napolimp · Sep 3, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
We were

Regardless, he may not necessarily have wanted to join. Sunderland is a great choice for a Championship level player.

Evo1883 · Sep 3, 2024

skybluecam · Sep 3, 2024

Deity said:
It depends what you consider success….

we strengthened our Keeper, out wide on both flanks, the striking options and made Binks perm.

We didn’t sell any of our key players.

we managed to offload Godden and Palmer for fees.

That’s a good window, maybe even a very good window. If we had added a great number 6 or 8 that would have made it a brilliant window.

failing to land one target doesn’t make all other progress irrelevant …..

We have 5 senior central midfielders. That's incredibly thin.

On any given matchday you're going to want 4 in the squad at a minimum. One injury (Sheaf..) and we're immediately at that limit. There's very little opportunity to rest players or take out underperforming players. And it's only likely to get worse as it becomes a feedback loop of injury, overplaying and more injuries.

The decision to sell Palmer with no one to replace his minutes is honestly shocking and overshadows the rest of our business.

napolimp · Sep 3, 2024

Evo1883 said:

Get the feeling they wouldn't post about it unless there was some substance to it. Really warming to the idea of James coming here, especially with the experience he brings in midfield. Can't do any harm even on a 2-year deal.

Evo1883 · Sep 3, 2024

Reality is adding some experience down the spine of the team will do it wonders , we may even become more likely to make the playoffs

fernandopartridge · Sep 3, 2024

skybluecam said:
The decision to sell Palmer with no one to replace his minutes is honestly shocking and overshadows the rest of our business.

Robins himself said he didn't think we'd miss him and we don't - he can't play the roles we need so it's not really "honestly shocking". The more pertinent issue is the reoccurence of Sheaf's injury.

Balli001 · Sep 3, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
Robins himself said he didn't think we'd miss him and we don't - he can't play the roles we need so it's not really "honestly shocking". The more pertinent issue is the reoccurence of Sheaf's injury.

Very true. if we had signed a midfielder in the window nobody would care we had sold palmer really

CovLad94 · Sep 3, 2024

Anyone with a brain could see that it would be a very good deal, were already a midfielder short before Palmer even went. Like Dougy but can't see him being that dumb surely? I can see this happening regardless

napolimp · Sep 3, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
Robins himself said he didn't think we'd miss him and we don't - he can't play the roles we need so it's not really "honestly shocking". The more pertinent issue is the reoccurence of Sheaf's injury.

The more shocking thing is the complete about-face of some fans, from Palmer being a luxury liability to absolutely crucial to the clubs success.

Brighton Sky Blue · Sep 3, 2024

napolimp said:
The more shocking thing is the complete about-face of some fans, from Palmer being a luxury liability to absolutely crucial to the clubs success.

Some, sure, but most have seen through Palmer by this point.

Viktor17 · Sep 3, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
Robins himself said he didn't think we'd miss him and we don't - he can't play the roles we need so it's not really "honestly shocking". The more pertinent issue is the reoccurence of Sheaf's injury.

This. There was noise it was longer than "2 weeks" OR back for Watford as MR said. Robins said he hurt his toe or similar after game, turner reported ankle injury recurrence

I fear we won't see him at Watford.

robbiethemole · Sep 3, 2024

Robins said he hurt a toe in training, so where did Turnip get a recurrence from??

skybluecam · Sep 3, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
Robins himself said he didn't think we'd miss him and we don't - he can't play the roles we need so it's not really "honestly shocking". The more pertinent issue is the reoccurence of Sheaf's injury.

If he can't play the roles we need how did he play over 50% of our minutes before leaving?

napolimp said:
The more shocking thing is the complete about-face of some fans, from Palmer being a luxury liability to absolutely crucial to the clubs success.

No one is saying that, in a vacuum it's a good deal for us. But given how light we are in midfield we needed a body in just to play some minutes.

wingy · Sep 3, 2024

Balli001 said:
Very true. if we had signed a midfielder in the window nobody would care we had sold palmer really

Think they probably take BTA to occupy the minutes criteria in replacement terms?

napolimp · Sep 3, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Some, sure, but most have seen through Palmer by this point.

Always been a fan of Palmer, but never to the point where I thought he'd be a real miss if unavailable. Even in that 70 minutes against Wolves, where he was excellent, he probably should have scored at least 1 - which may have put the game to bed.

Skybluekyle · Sep 3, 2024

napolimp said:
How do you know what Browne was thinking? We may not even have been in for him.

Stamenic didn't want to come here, so ultimately it's irrelevant because there's no point signing a player that doesn't want to be at the club.

fernandopartridge · Sep 3, 2024

skybluecam said:
If he can't play the roles we need how did he play over 50% of our minutes before leaving?

No one is saying that, in a vacuum it's a good deal for us. But given how light we are in midfield we needed a body in just to play some minutes.

Howcome he didn't start a league game?

Tommo1993 · Sep 3, 2024

My reliable source seems to think this talk is behind the curve and it’s actually been signed and sealed…

napolimp · Sep 3, 2024

skybluecam said:
If he can't play the roles we need how did he play over 50% of our minutes before leaving?

No one is saying that, in a vacuum it's a good deal for us. But given how light we are in midfield we needed a body in just to play some minutes.

No I specifically read comments during the Norwich match, where people were saying we were desperate for Palmer because he would change the game.

Viktor17 · Sep 3, 2024

robbiethemole said:
Robins said he hurt a toe in training, so where did Turnip get a recurrence from??

Thats what he reported - a recurrence.

Lets just hope he leads us out at Watford.

Tommo1993 · Sep 3, 2024

Skybluekyle said:
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Now you’re thinking, ‘I hope that’s shepherd’s pie in my knickers’

robbiethemole · Sep 3, 2024

Tommo1993 said:
My reliable source seems to think this talk is behind the curve and it’s actually been signed and sealed…

Let's hope so, cos other sides will get wind and try to get him, knowing our luck.

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