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Transfer Rumour Matty James (4 Viewers)

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Paxman II

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  • Sep 7, 2024
  • #561
....In January
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Sep 7, 2024
  • #562
quinn1971 said:
Not sure about the James signing, with an international break wouldn’t you get him into ryton to have a look at him, bit of a fitness test ?
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Stop Talking Sense.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Sep 7, 2024
  • #563
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Stop Talking Sense.
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Sorry, it won’t happen again
 
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Deity

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  • Sep 7, 2024
  • #564
Paxman II said:
....In January
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Mmm not really the point of this thread … this about what do we do to strengthen BEFORE the window reopens.
 
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ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Sep 7, 2024
  • #565
Deity said:
Mmm not really the point of this thread … this about what do we do to strengthen BEFORE the window reopens.
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Unless there has been at least one free agent incoming next week, we can assume it’s happening in January.

Personally, I don’t think we’ll see anyone in, and we had problems acquiring players last January window too. So buckle up, everyone.
 

Hobo

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  • Sep 7, 2024
  • #566
Grendel said:
We can offload a couple on loan in January if we want to or sell a keeper

Some times the club has to adopt a short term strategy and take players on a years deal or loans

We were short of depth last January. We would never have taken a player like Moore but Ipswich saw a need and did.

The irony on James is that his injury record is now a lot better than previously. He played 37 games last year. His record is better than Sheaf.

There are funds as Palmer has gone.
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Well off loading players in January is possible , but still easier to say than do in reality.

I was a big fan of James and wanted us to sign him last time, despite his injury record. He really made a difference and showed no signs of injury vulnerability. He opted for more money and a previous manager he had worked with, which is fair enough.

However time has moved on. Do we really see him as playing a roll or is this just a knee jerk reaction to results and Sheaf's injury?

If it's the later I would be in the avoid camp and look long term.

However if James is prepared to take a short term contract and lower his wage expectations a deal may be there? But I can't see it happening?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 7, 2024
  • #567
Paxman II said:
....In January
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Might be too late by then. The midfield without Sheaf does not look anywhere near strong enough and it completes negates any benefit of having a huge amount of striking talent as they never get the ball enough.

Had you said Matty James while the window was still open I'd have said not a chance. Now it's shut and frees are our only option, how poor the midfield look and bereft of leadership and the ongoing uncertainty over Sheaf's fitness, plus the freeing up of Palmer's wages it is something that needs exploring. Not saying necessarily James is the only option and there may be other free's out there that would be suitable. but as it stands we can't risk leaving it until Jan.

Of course Sheaf may be fit next game and be able to play every game until Jan but his record doesn't look great. And then wouldn't it be nice to have someone to come in that can hold the midfield together if Sheaf needed a rest of felt a twinge, rather than having to risk it and have him out for ages again?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 7, 2024
  • #568
Deity said:
In part Dreamer but most free agents want a signing on fee too ( normally a sizeable 6 figure sum ) and for all we know James might want 2 years or even 2+1 ! Where as Palmer just had 1 yr left.

Interestingly our EFL squad of 25 has been submitted with just 24 names so that rather suggests we plan to bring one more in.
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I was working on someone saying he was happy to come back on a 1+1 basis.

With the wages, of course no-one knows what the actual figures are, but rumours of what Palmer's wage was and that being asked by James suggest there is enough of a difference to offer a decent signing on fee and still be cost neutral.
 
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tommy hutch legend

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #569
Hobo said:
Well off loading players in January is possible , but still easier to say than do in reality.

I was a big fan of James and wanted us to sign him last time, despite his injury record. He really made a difference and showed no signs of injury vulnerability. He opted for more money and a previous manager he had worked with, which is fair enough.

However time has moved on. Do we really see him as playing a roll or is this just a knee jerk reaction to results and Sheaf's injury?

If it's the later I would be in the avoid camp and look long term.

However if James is prepared to take a short term contract and lower his wage expectations a deal may be there? But I can't see it happening?
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Was told he got offered a pay as you play deal only which he said no to
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #570
Still a no from me.

Are we really that desperate? The answer is no.

Can we make do with the players we have? The answer is a resounding yes.

Keep back the wages and the signing on fee for a player that we can gain value on.

Says it all that we’ve had just two 33 year olds (or older) that we got on a free that have been ‘reasonably’ successful in our entire history.

Dennis Wise and Joe Cole.


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torchomatic

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #571
Fergusons_Beard said:
Still a no from me.

Are we really that desperate? The answer is no.

Can we make do with the players we have? The answer is a resounding yes.

Keep back the wages and the signing on fee for a player that we can gain value on.

Says it all that we’ve had just two 33 year olds (or older) that we got on a free that have been ‘reasonably’ successful in our entire history.

Dennis Wise and Joe Cole.


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A yes from me. We can't rely on Sheaf.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #572
torchomatic said:
A yes from me. We can't rely on Sheaf.
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Agree.

won’t happen now don’t think however.
 

torchomatic

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #573
Viktor17 said:
Agree.

won’t happen now don’t think however.
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Kai Andrews it is then.
 
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Viktor17

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #574
torchomatic said:
Kai Andrews it is then.
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Ridiculous we’ve ended up in this position - ridiculous
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #575
Fergusons_Beard said:
Still a no from me.

Are we really that desperate? The answer is no.

Can we make do with the players we have? The answer is a resounding yes.

Keep back the wages and the signing on fee for a player that we can gain value on.

Says it all that we’ve had just two 33 year olds (or older) that we got on a free that have been ‘reasonably’ successful in our entire history.

Dennis Wise and Joe Cole.


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Didn't we get Strachan on a free past that age ? McFadzean came to us at nearly 33 ,but I wouldn't take James or Fleck.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #576
Fergusons_Beard said:
Still a no from me.

Are we really that desperate? The answer is no.

Can we make do with the players we have? The answer is a resounding yes.

Keep back the wages and the signing on fee for a player that we can gain value on.

Says it all that we’ve had just two 33 year olds (or older) that we got on a free that have been ‘reasonably’ successful in our entire history.

Dennis Wise and Joe Cole.


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Roland Neilson wasn’t too bad nor mcallister in his second stint
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #577
tommy hutch legend said:
Was told he got offered a pay as you play deal only which he said no to
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He’s probably wanting a big wage and at minimum a 12 month deal.
If that weakens our move for a CM in Jan then no. Kai Andrews and Isaac Moore on stand by.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #578
Offhegoes said:
He’s probably wanting a big wage and at minimum a 12 month deal.
If that weakens our move for a CM in Jan then no. Kai Andrews and Isaac Moore on stand by.
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Moore hasn’t played a game for 14 months, he did his ACL twice I think. Was highly rated at the club but it’s hard to come back the same from one
 

Hobo

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #579
tommy hutch legend said:
Was told he got offered a pay as you play deal only which he said no to
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Which he is entitled to say no to, but I personally wouldn't commit much more than that.
 

Hobo

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #580
Deity said:
Mmm not really the point of this thread … this about what do we do to strengthen BEFORE the window reopens.
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Do we actually need to is the other question? Don't see the need of BEFORE ?
 

alexccfc99

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  • Sep 8, 2024
  • #581
Judging by the players Instagram those not on international duty have been given the week off (Simms has been in Greece by the looks of it!)

Maybe it could be announced this week now the players will be training again who knows

I am just hoping that if this doesn’t happen then it’s because Sheaf is fit and ready to play on Saturday
 
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Skyblue_CP

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #582
The amount of people that think a pay as you play deal still exists in professional football is baffling. Especially for a player that has the ability to play in the championship.
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #583
Q. If Matty is that good then why has he not got a contract already somewhere ?
Asking for a friend!
 
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gspotgaz

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #584
Why oh why are the players on another break?! Should have been 2 weeks of hard grind on the training ground after the start we’ve had
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #585
gspotgaz said:
Why oh why are the players on another break?! Should have been 2 weeks of hard grind on the training ground after the start we’ve had
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Cause it isn't the 80s any more and running the players into the ground in training doesn't work anymore
 
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gspotgaz

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #586
Is 2 weeks of training running them into ground? You’d think this would be perfect time to integrate the tactical ideas into the group
 

zuni

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #587
if we had played and been unlucky then ok...but play and look clueless, get the fuckers training on tactics / motivation and fucking effort
 

zuni

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #588
the only fucker earning their money is this new sleep coach, think he is doing to well....
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #589
zuni said:
if we had played and been unlucky then ok...but play and look clueless, get the fuckers training on tactics / motivation and fucking effort
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Really don't believe our sticky start to the season is down to a lack of effort
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #590
zuni said:
the only fucker earning their money is this new sleep coach, think he is doing to well....
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Can I hire him please?
 
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procdoc

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #591
Covcraig@bury said:
Q. If Matty is that good then why has he not got a contract already somewhere ?
Asking for a friend!
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Rabiot is a fully fledged French international and still hasn’t got a club so it’s not an indictment of someone’s ability if they are still a free agent
 

San Francisco

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #592
procdoc said:
Rabiot is a fully fledged French international and still hasn’t got a club so it’s not an indictment of someone’s ability if they are still a free agent
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Sign him up Doug!
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #593
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Moore hasn’t played a game for 14 months, he did his ACL twice I think. Was highly rated at the club but it’s hard to come back the same from one
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He’s in the squad photo interestingly so possibly back training now
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #594
alexccfc99 said:
Judging by the players Instagram those not on international duty have been given the week off (Simms has been in Greece by the looks of it!)

Maybe it could be announced this week now the players will be training again who knows

I am just hoping that if this doesn’t happen then it’s because Sheaf is fit and ready to play on Saturday
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Blimey, a Week Off for Failure, Makes you Wonder How Long Off if They Win Something.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 9, 2024
  • #595
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Blimey, a Week Off for Failure, Makes you Wonder How Long Off if They Win Something.
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They’d have the same time off if we’d won all the games
 
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