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covcity4life

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #36
Evo1883 said:
Listen , you felt the need to talk about a post I deleted so I put you straight ,you don't want to talk shit with me then don't indirectly give it loads you bottom feeder
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I literally responses to the post and mentioned looks like it has been deleted now. I then mentioned the 22 starts. I didn't even tag you to keep it respectable rather than calling you out. I thought I was being nice.

So if anything I put you straight and your butthurt about it.

I don't get where your aggro has come from towards me. But simple solution is stop conversing with me.
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #37
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #38
I am surprised as he seems a player in decline, he is now shooting earlier than he did as he doesn’t have the pace to make the space he needs.
 
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usskyblue

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #39
@Evo1883 @covcity4life

Does the ‘Croyden Home for Gay Dogs’ charity sound alright?

 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #40
covcity4life said:
I literally responses to the post and mentioned looks like it has been deleted now. I then mentioned the 22 starts. I didn't even tag you to keep it respectable rather than calling you out. I thought I was being nice.

So if anything I put you straight and your butthurt about it.

I don't get where your aggro has come from towards me. But simple solution is stop conversing with me.
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He started 12 or the last 18 games leading upto the boro game at the end of the season .. unless we played with 10 men , we lost 2 of those 18 and he was a part of the team that finished 5th .. end of story , you put nobody straight
 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #41
Evo1883 said:
He started 12 or the last 18 games leading upto the boro game at the end of the season .. unless we played with 10 men , we lost 2 of those 18 and he was a part of the team that finished 5th .. end of story , you put nobody straight
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And I've said I'm happy to have him as squad rotation which would probably mean around 18 odd starts . So I'm more than happy to keep him around in this role

I said in another thread if he plays every game this season he will score 15 or more and we will still win alot of games. But I want autos or the best chance of winning playoffs. For me that means Simms and wright starting majority of games that's all.

Some see godden and see grea tmovement and finishing. I see him and see not great strength,hold up play or speed but good finishing. That's why I see as 3rd choice personally. It's just a difference of opinion isn't it?
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #42
usskyblue said:
I think Sunday showed that Godden is ahead of Simms atm. Simms May still play alongside Godden depending on the fitness/readiness of Wright
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I am not sure it necessarily showed that. He certainly was by far the better of the two in that match, but you'd hope and expect that Simms is better than he showed for most of that match.
 
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stupot07

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #43
Deleted member 9744 said:
I am not sure it necessarily showed that. He certainly was by far the better of the two in that match, but you'd hope and expect that Simms is better than he showed for most of that match.
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It's a bit hard to judge, Simms was being asked to do Gyokeres role, which isn't his game, he is similar to Godden in being a box striker but wasn't really allowed to do that role. He will come good with Wright upfront.

A lot being said of Goddens all round game but just 30 touches in 90 minutes made just 53% of his 13 passes, that's 3 less touches than Simms having played 30 mins more if you include the 9 mins injury time.

If Simms plays with Wright, he will score more goals than Godden.

If we want to progress he should be 3rd or 4tj choice.


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covcity4life

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #44
stupot07 said:
It's a bit hard to judge, Simms was being asked to do Gyokeres role, which isn't his game, he is similar to Godden in being a box striker but wasn't really allowed to do that role. He will come good with Wright upfront.

A lot being said of Goddens all round game but just 30 touches in 90 minutes made just 53% of his 13 passes, that's 3 less touches than Simms having played 30 mins more if you include the 9 mins injury time.

If Simms plays with Wright, he will score more goals than Godden.

If we want to progress he should be 3rd or 4tj choice.


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Yup not sure how anyone could say Simms was worse on Sunday. He was more involved and for me that is key.
 
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Hutch11

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #45
I can see Simms being the poacher type forward, feeding off Wright
 
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stupot07

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #46
Hutch11 said:
I can see Simms being the poacher type forward, feeding off Wright
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You look at his goals, and he is a poacher. But was asked to play with his back to goal, and on average position was the deepest of the front 3.

He needs to be playing off the last man.

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Sick Boy

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #47
Ccfcisparks said:
I'll be honest, don't really see the benefit of this but I trust Robins.
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He’s a decent backup option and better than bringing in 2 further strikers rather than just the 1.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #48
Sick Boy said:
He’s a decent backup option and better than bringing in 2 further strikers rather than just the 1.
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Yes thats true, hopefully we do get that loan forward in.
 

AOM

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #49
Think Godden is still a good experienced option to have as competition for our other strikers and a decent sub to bring on.
Also good to have some continuity within the team from the last few seasons too, rather than too much player turnover
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #50
Ccfcisparks said:
I'll be honest, don't really see the benefit of this but I trust Robins.
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You need to watch him more.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #51
stupot07 said:
It's a bit hard to judge, Simms was being asked to do Gyokeres role, which isn't his game, he is similar to Godden in being a box striker but wasn't really allowed to do that role. He will come good with Wright upfront.

A lot being said of Goddens all round game but just 30 touches in 90 minutes made just 53% of his 13 passes, that's 3 less touches than Simms having played 30 mins more if you include the 9 mins injury time.

If Simms plays with Wright, he will score more goals than Godden.

If we want to progress he should be 3rd or 4tj choice.


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I do notice people yourself included always seem to talk about how many " touches " godden has .. it's a strange thing to consistently bring up ..

Upto September 2021 , Harry kane was averaging a career 39 touches a match .

Not comparing the players ofcourse but if godden starts scoring again then it's irrelevant how many touches he has ..

Gyokeres was a special player , beyond simms and godden by some way , he actively dragged the ball forward and had loads of touches per match


I agree about 3rd choice atm but that also depends on form ..

Btw Simms had a worse pass completion than godden Saturday, less ground duels won , less recoveries etc etc etc

Godden works hard , never gets the credit

The club need the Wright Simms partnership to work .. otherwise there are some wasted pounds
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #52
And from the minute Simms went off , Leicester had so much more of the ball than us
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #53
Evo1883 said:
And from the minute Simms went off , Leicester had so much more of the ball than us
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I thought he held it up well second half. Looks a strong lad. Shame it looked like he was playing in steel toe cap boots when it came to him first half haha.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #54
Evo1883 said:
I do notice people yourself included always seem to talk about how many " touches " godden has .. it's a strange thing to consistently bring up ..

Upto September 2021 , Harry kane was averaging a career 39 touches a match .

Not comparing the players ofcourse but if godden starts scoring again then it's irrelevant how many touches he has ..

Gyokeres was a special player , beyond simms and godden by some way , he actively dragged the ball forward and had loads of touches per match


I agree about 3rd choice atm but that also depends on form ..

Btw Simms had a worse pass completion than godden Saturday, less ground duels won , less recoveries etc etc etc

Godden works hard , never gets the credit

The club need the Wright Simms partnership to work .. otherwise there are some wasted pounds
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Wright and Simms may need time. Just wondering if Godden is going to play a bigger part than we realise?
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #55
Ccfcisparks said:
I thought he held it up well second half. Looks a strong lad. Shame it looked like he was playing in steel toe cap boots when it came to him first half haha.
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Deep sea diving boots? I guess the passes through to him were weighted towards Gyo? He’s probably been doing bleep tests today..
 

blunted

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #56
Godden is at that wait and see stage. He has been brilliant for us since signing and some people see a decline whilst others think this is just a blip in a great career for us. If, (a big if) he can stay clear of injury his experience is going to be invaluable this season no matter how many games he plays.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #57
usskyblue said:
I think Sunday showed that Godden is ahead of Simms atm. Simms May still play alongside Godden depending on the fitness/readiness of Wright
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Cos Godden was given his preferred role, Simms was being used as a Gyok replacement pulling wide and muscling the defenders.

Had it been the other way round Godden would have looked much worse.

I want to see Simms playing the Godden poacher role first. My instinct is that Godden will have better movement but Simms will have a better overall goal return.
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #58
Sky Blue Pete said:
Should have had three away Sunday away to one of the teams likely to finish near the top
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He made himself a lot of good space and I’m happy enough (and patient) for now. I was more disturbed by some bad decision making by Simms but hopefully it was just debut excitement.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #59
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Cos Godden was given his preferred role, Simms was being used as a Gyok replacement pulling wide and muscling the defenders.

Had it been the other way round Godden would have looked much worse.

I want to see Simms playing the Godden poacher role first. My instinct is that Godden will have better movement but Simms will have a better overall goal return.
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He wasn't at all, Simms played as a strike partner to Godden who worked well to create space to him. It really wasn't anything like Vik.

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #60
fernandopartridge said:
He wasn't at all, Simms played as a strike partner to Godden who worked well to create space to him. It really wasn't anything like Vik.

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Maybe as a direct comparison, but it was more similar to Gyok than as a targetman aimed at getting goals. He was pulling wide and occupying defenders, battling for the ball. He even tried running at them, but looked ponderous doing it compared to Gyokeres.

I think his game is more being in the area scoring goals. Which is the role Godden had on Sunday. So until we see him in that goalscorer role we can't make the comparison to how he looks compared to Godden.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #61
We have the vik role this season every game it will be mentioned
 

junglej13

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #62
Godden has never been a player whose game has been based on his pace. Not sure I can recall one goal where his pace has got him away from a last man. Still got plenty to offer and will get 10+ goals this season.
 

Blind-Faith

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #63
I hope he doesn’t lose his hair before his new deal runs out, he has a lovely Barnett
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #64
Talking of Simms, I need to see his early second half chance just before we scored. Funny then, funny now.
 

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #65
junglej13 said:
Godden has never been a player whose game has been based on his pace. Not sure I can recall one goal where his pace has got him away from a last man. Still got plenty to offer and will get 10+ goals this season.
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It’s not about getting away it’s staying away from them. He is starting more offside than ever to try to make up for it
 

fatso

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  • Aug 9, 2023
  • #66
This is descending into a "who was the most shit on Sunday thread"
Both strikers were no more than a 4 out of 10 performances in my book. Golden has lost his shooting boots, and Simms was a fucking donkey. (Anyone saying otherwise is clearly in denial)

Given time I'm sure they will both improve.
They have to as they couldn't get much worse.

The worrying thing is we've just splashed out 3.5 million for one of them.

They will have time to develop a partnership, and of course they won't be up against Leicester every week, and Leicester will probably piss this league.

Wright looked a handful when he came on, but it's worth remembering that he came on fresh, as all the players were showing fatigue.

All in all, its fair to say our strikers need some work in training this week, and I'm sure we will see a big difference this Saturday.
 

slowpoke

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  • Aug 9, 2023
  • #67
Godden had one of those games Sunday, another day he has a hat-trick.
Fans on here can say what they want about him but he usually snaps up the type of chances he squandered Sunday.
 
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hamertime

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  • Aug 9, 2023
  • #68
Godden has quality, look at that goal against Watford. He’s never had pace it’s not what he is. It was unlike him to miss those chances Sunday, it was first game of the season. Ellis will get poacher goals that’s it. Looking at Wright he looks like he will be the main one he showed Sunday what he can do in a short space of time. We won’t come up against many tougher teams than Leicester.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 9, 2023
  • #69
fatso said:
This is descending into a "who was the most shit on Sunday thread"
Both strikers were no more than a 4 out of 10 performances in my book. Golden has lost his shooting boots, and Simms was a fucking donkey. (Anyone saying otherwise is clearly in denial)

Given time I'm sure they will both improve.
They have to as they couldn't get much worse.

The worrying thing is we've just splashed out 3.5 million for one of them.

They will have time to develop a partnership, and of course they won't be up against Leicester every week, and Leicester will probably piss this league.

Wright looked a handful when he came on, but it's worth remembering that he came on fresh, as all the players were showing fatigue.

All in all, its fair to say our strikers need some work in training this week, and I'm sure we will see a big difference this Saturday.
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Ridiculous

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skyblu3sk

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  • Aug 9, 2023
  • #70
I suppose the thing to say for Sunday as at least he got in positions to have chances I think one more pacey youngster and we Will have a balanced strike force.
 
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