Maton at it again (1 Viewer)

Philosoraptor · Jul 25, 2020

Mucca Mad Boys said:
Pretty sure support for Wasps and the RICOH Arena debacle has cross-party support.

If the Tory (or any other party) councillors had a stance scrutinising the role of CCC and Wasps in our exile, they’d get my vote.

My experiences with councillors (at university) has been very negative so far. The people I came into contact with had a heightened sense of self-importance and looked down on people. Put me off.

Coventry Labour are really at a tipping point at the moment.

The local group (The ones which wouldn't be out of place in the Conservative Party) have lost control of Coventry South, and this will cascade down in that area to the Wards, given time, with new councillors being selected. Also, Coventry North West, which is balancing on 52% - 48% in favour of the Labour Tories is ready to tumble.

The smallest organization of people power with people joining Labour within Coventry will easily tip the balance and get in many new councillors where it is needed, away from this crock of shit we have representing ourselves at the moment.

There is no better time to join Coventry Labour and making your voice heard.

Organization at a ward level could unseat most of these asshats whom call themselves councillors.

Ian1779 · Jul 25, 2020

Philosorapter said:
Coventry Labour are really at a tipping point at the moment.

The local group (The ones which wouldn't be out of place in the Conservative Party) have lost control of Coventry South, and this will cascade down in that area to the Wards, given time, with new councillors being selected. Also, Coventry North West, which is balancing on 52% - 48% in favour of the Labour Tories is ready to tumble.

The smallest organization of people power with people joining Labour within Coventry will easily tip the balance and get in new councillors, away from this crock of shit we have at the moment.

There is no better time to join Coventry Labour and making your voice heard.

It’s almost like a microcosm of a lot of the nonsense at Westminster. Careerists with their own agendas and jumped up levels of self-importance only really interested in looking after themselves. Even when you look at the elder statesmen of both parties in Westminster that have gone recently (Clarke and Skinner to name just two) they have been replaced by jumped up pricks more interested in using their parliamentary office to chat up and perv on young interns. Although I may not agree with his politics, I’d take 1000 Ken Clarke’s over a jumped up knob like Umanna who is only in it to extend his gravy train.
Maton is poor mans Umanna.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jul 25, 2020

Frostie said:
I think it's his general gloating & the 2 that went either side of that one, the first of which he's since deleted - guilty conscience?

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But that second tweet also applies to Wasps' owners. Almost certainly not a dig at them but it covers them.

Ian1779 · Jul 25, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But that second tweet also applies to Wasps' owners. Almost certainly not a dig at them but it covers them.

I had an argument yesterday on Twitter with someone who refused to believe that Wasps has hedge fund involvement.

skyblueinBaku · Jul 25, 2020

Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
He was clever with this statement, kept it very factual, twat had to delete his tweet earlier this week because it wasn’t and it clearly demonstrated bias against the club and he cannot do that under the 7 principles of public life conduct for these officials.

I wrote to him asking him to report himself to the ethics committee on this and to ensure he removes himself from any decision making involving the club in all future situations. Sent some back some B/S to me about being an ex season ticket holder and didn’t basically answer the question so I’ll write to the committee for him, it will be easier that way.

What was said in the earlier tweet you refer to?

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jul 25, 2020

Ian1779 said:
It’s almost like a microcosm of a lot of the nonsense at Westminster. Careerists with their own agendas and jumped up levels of self-importance only really interested in looking after themselves. Even when you look at the elder statesmen of both parties in Westminster that have gone recently (Clarke and Skinner to name just two) they have been replaced by jumped up pricks more interested in using their parliamentary office to chat up and perv on young interns. Although I may not agree with his politics, I’d take 1000 Ken Clarke’s over a jumped up knob like Umanna who is only in it to extend his gravy train.
Maton is poor mans Umanna.

Where do you think those in Westminster start out? Grease their way up the ladder working as local activists, become a councillor, contest a few unwinnable seats then eventually get one they can. Arseholes in local govt end up becoming the arseholes in national govt, esp in Labour. Tory it's a bit more go to public school/Oxford and then get parachuted in. Or go and get a nice lucrative job for a bit then get parachuted in (but not for all obviously)

Mucca Mad Boys · Jul 25, 2020

Philosorapter said:
Coventry Labour are really at a tipping point at the moment.

The local group (The ones which wouldn't be out of place in the Conservative Party) have lost control of Coventry South, and this will cascade down in that area to the Wards, given time, with new councillors being selected. Also, Coventry North West, which is balancing on 52% - 48% in favour of the Labour Tories is ready to tumble.

The smallest organization of people power with people joining Labour within Coventry will easily tip the balance and get in many new councillors where it is needed, away from this crock of shit we have representing ourselves at the moment.

There is no better time to join Coventry Labour and making your voice heard.

Organization at a ward level could unseat most of these asshats whom call themselves councillors.

Funnily enough, I was a Labour member around this time last year.

We certainly need new blood in our local government.

SISU lost the PR battle a long time ago, the average person believes they are in the wrong (and they have a lot to answer for too). This has allowed Wasps and CCC to act and to say things without any accountability.

A fine example is Cllr. Maton mocking the new stadium announcement. He fully well knows that the CCC wouldn’t entertain a new stadium project in their jurisdiction.

All of their eggs are in the RICOH basket.

Frostie · Jul 25, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But that second tweet also applies to Wasps' owners. Almost certainly not a dig at them but it covers them.

Absolutely, that's why it's sheer hypocrisy. He has lauded the sale of the Ricoh to Wasps despite them reneging on many of the conditions that came with it.

Mucca Mad Boys · Jul 25, 2020

Frostie said:
Absolutely, that's why it's sheer hypocrisy. He has lauded the sale of the Ricoh to Wasps despite them reneging on many of the conditions that came with it.

What else have Wasps reneged on?

The big one being the would not ‘endanger’ CCFC...

better days · Jul 25, 2020

My god local politics is depressing

oldfiver · Jul 25, 2020

Gynnsthetonic said:
There is nobody to call him out though, the Tory council have sided with them (Labour) , CET support them, its like Starlanist Russia!

Perhaps all of them frightened the EU decision finds them all in breach of their Civic Duty and penalised?

Sick Boy · Jul 25, 2020

Frostie said:
I think it's his general gloating & the 2 that went either side of that one, the first of which he's since deleted - guilty conscience?

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I’m pretty sure that SISU were the council’s preferred bidder over the likes of the Manhattan Project at the time.

Ian1779 · Jul 25, 2020

Sick Boy said:
I’m pretty sure that SISU were the council’s preferred bidder over the likes of the Manhattan Project at the time.

Totally - because they didn’t want the stadium.

BornSlippySkyBlue · Jul 25, 2020

better days said:
My god local politics is depressing

Whereas at a national level it’s positively orgasm inducing!

Frostie · Jul 25, 2020

Mucca Mad Boys said:
What else have Wasps reneged on?

The big one being the would not ‘endanger’ CCFC...

Excerpts from media at the time of the sale:

"Coventry City Council has long-insisted the operator of the stadium should help to improve surrounding land and regenerate the area.
Now, Coun Kevin Maton, the council cabinet member for business, has insisted development is still on the agenda."

" Wasps' relocation to the Midlands would be purely for matches - and will not come into conflict with the academy systems run by the neighbouring professional clubs to the Coventry area"

"the sale(sic) ensures... significant investment into grassroots and community rugby development across the city."

Maton is just as bad...

@cllr_kevinmaton So will @coventrycc support building new #CCFC stadium in city? Assuming our owners can afford it this time…

To which he replied:

@CovBackToRicoh@coventrycc why would we. We support sustainable businesess.

I'd love to see how he comes to the conclusion that Wasps' business model is sustainable!

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jul 25, 2020

Sick Boy said:
I’m pretty sure that SISU were the council’s preferred bidder over the likes of the Manhattan Project at the time.

Coventry are trying to develop nuclear weapons? This is way more serious than I thought!

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jul 25, 2020

BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Whereas at a national level it’s positively orgasm inducing!

It is if you're into S&M.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Jul 25, 2020

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Overson seems like a top bloke. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s involved in the stadium project.

I didn't know he was that rich.

duffer · Jul 25, 2020

There are some decent councillors out there - I've met them.

Some do the job out of an old-fashioned desire to help other people and improve the City, some do it to raise their own profile and climb the greasy pole into political office, and some do it because of the opportunities for corruption and favours.

My mum always said that if you couldn't say anything nice about someone, say nothing. This is what I've got to say about Maton, " ".

Nick · Jul 25, 2020

Mucca Mad Boys said:
What else have Wasps reneged on?

The big one being the would not ‘endanger’ CCFC...

Most of their promises so far.

mark82 · Jul 25, 2020

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
I didn't know he was that rich.

Sold his company for £208 million. Not scraping by.

sw88 · Jul 25, 2020

Strange of him, as he was a regular at the Ricoh even under SISU so didn’t have him down as being so anti

Sick Boy · Jul 25, 2020

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Coventry are trying to develop nuclear weapons? This is way more serious than I thought!

Hahahaha

Philosoraptor · Jul 25, 2020

duffer said:
There are some decent councillors out there - I've met them.

Some do the job out of an old-fashioned desire to help other people and improve the City, some do it to raise their own profile and climb the greasy pole into political office, and some do it because of the opportunities for corruption and favours.

My mum always said that if you couldn't say anything nice about someone, say nothing. This is what I've got to say about Maton, " ".

Yes, I fully agree.

I've made sure to make a clear distinction between 'some' and not 'all'. There are some hard-working councillors of all flavours in all parties.

Who these councillors are is pretty self-evident. The others though, need a concerted campaign for replacements candidates to be put forward, not just at election time but more importantly, when they put themselves forward for the Labour ticket as the Labour candidate in a safe council seat for the Local Elections.

Labour members need to challenge them in wards by putting up replacement candidates.

Just as a rhetorical thought, does anyone think Maton would still be a councillor if he was not in such a safe Labour council seat?

It just shows how deep this problem goes.

Nick · Jul 25, 2020

Think this sums up the attitude of the little scruffy c**t.

Frostie · Jul 25, 2020

duffer said:
There are some decent councillors out there - I've met them.

Both of them?

chiefdave · Jul 25, 2020

Anyone know anything about this:

Coventry Citizens Party – Your city. Your voice.

www.covparty.uk

Assume its new as not much info on the website. We really need a viable alternative to the Conservatives and Labour in Coventry. Its a level of politics where it can be possible for independents to get some traction.

Skybluemichael · Jul 26, 2020

Who is this bellend is he a council employee?

Nick · Jul 26, 2020

Skybluemichael said:
Who is this bellend is he a council employee?

A desperate weirdo.

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 26, 2020

Skybluemichael said:
Who is this bellend is he a council employee?

I was described similarly in an employment tribunal case many many years ago. I’m not sure it’s relevant to other than the case in question. Having said that I have a couple of business friends who were banned from the Ricoh back in the day who harbour very ill will to her and Sisu

It’s clearly not as simple as one side is right and the other side wrong as that’s not how life works. What is insane is that a deal could have been done that benefitted both parties and probably benefitted them significantly

Oh well

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