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alexccfc99

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1
If we are going to persist with Saturday and last night’s set-up we have made arguably our marquee signing redundant in this system

I’m trying to remain optimistic but that isn’t great is it
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #2
We're obviously looking to go back to basics to rebuild some solidity, at the minute it doesn't feel like any loss because we've not seen anything from EMC to suggest otherwise yet.
 
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False9

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #3
He will surely revert to 4231 because we can't create anything in the 5 at the back. They can't play through teams at all, ball just goes side to side.

I wouldn't be adverse to throwing emc in and putting Haji through the middle.
 
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Pezza

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #4
EMC doesn’t deserve a place in the side. I’ve literally not even seen a single cameo or passage of play where I’ve thought he looks like a good player. He looks non-league!
 
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zuni

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #5
Lads had bit parts playing mostly out of position...ffs
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #6
Tho
Pezza said:
EMC doesn’t deserve a place in the side. I’ve literally not even seen a single cameo or passage of play where I’ve thought he looks like a good player. He looks non-league!
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Thought he was decent against Blackburn tbh.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #7
fernandopartridge said:
We're obviously looking to go back to basics to rebuild some solidity, at the minute it doesn't feel like any loss because we've not seen anything from EMC to suggest otherwise yet.
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The return to 3-4-1-2 is clearly an attempt to concede less goals. If we need to go into every game needing a minimum of 2 goals, we won’t win many games. Additionally, the idea is to make use of all 4 strikers over the 90 minutes.

If we did try and play 4-2-3-1 again, it wouldn’t surprise me if Kitching played LB during Bidwell’s absence.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #8
Feel a bit sorry for him tbh. Played out of position a few times then we switch to a formation with no place for him and he doesn’t get off the bench. Not going to do his confidence any good.

I do think he’ll come good, there’s definitely a good player in there.
 
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Deity

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #9
Wright was our marquee signing who we have been playing out of position wide left and wondering why he doesn’t seem to naturally track back with any effect.

I would start Wright and Simms up top with Bassette off the bench. BTA showed last night that running around to no real effect does little for the team.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #10
Deity said:
Wright was our marquee signing who we have been playing out of position wide left and wondering why he doesn’t seem to naturally track back with any effect.

I would start Wright and Simms up top with Bassette off the bench. BTA showed last night that running around to no real effect does little for the team.
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I actually thought BTA pressed really well but had no support. There was a few times he pressed a defender successfully but was visibly frustrated when his teammates weren’t pressing and left a man open (though it is possible that was the team instructions).
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #11
PVA said:
I actually thought BTA pressed really well but had no support. There was a few times he pressed a defender successfully but was visibly frustrated when his teammates weren’t pressing and left a man open (though it is possible that was the team instructions).
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A lot of it to do with Rudoni's chronic lack of work rate
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #12
Deity said:
Wright was our marquee signing who we have been playing out of position wide left and wondering why he doesn’t seem to naturally track back with any effect.

I would start Wright and Simms up top with Bassette off the bench. BTA showed last night that running around to no real effect does little for the team.
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Have we ever played Simms and Wright upfront together?
 

rob9872

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #13
fernandopartridge said:
A lot of it to do with Rudoni's chronic lack of work rate
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Has anyone got the running stats available because I'd like to compare them as I disagree with this but no facts to back it up. To me he does work hard but only in certain areas of the pitch and I dont know what his instructions are.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #14
Sick Boy said:
Have we ever played Simms and Wright upfront together?
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We did the start of last season and they were horrific.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #15
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Tho

Thought he was decent against Blackburn tbh.
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yeah he was really good
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #16
PVA said:
I actually thought BTA pressed really well but had no support. There was a few times he pressed a defender successfully but was visibly frustrated when his teammates weren’t pressing and left a man open (though it is possible that was the team instructions).
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Yeah, I think with pairings I'd go BTA/Bassette. Both will press so everyone is on the same page. Which also puts Simms and Wright together. You'd think the amount they cost it'd be a terrifying attack for opposition to face, but I'm not so sure.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #17
He hasn’t looked even close to how I’d imagine a £4 million plus signing who was player of the season last year ?!
He’s hardly had a prolonged run in the side but when he’s played he has been a big disappointment. I expected him to be quicker and have more of a range of skills.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #18
fernandopartridge said:
A lot of it to do with Rudoni's chronic lack of work rate
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But if we drop him, who have we got to come in? We are so short of numbers in midfield aren't we.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #19
Saka is a bigger miss
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #20
Pezza said:
EMC doesn’t deserve a place in the side. I’ve literally not even seen a single cameo or passage of play where I’ve thought he looks like a good player. He looks non-league!
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At least two occasions when he ran in at the ball was fizzed in from the opposite side of the box. Unlucky. Certainly not as bad as people suggest.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #21
Deity said:
Wright was our marquee signing who we have been playing out of position wide left and wondering why he doesn’t seem to naturally track back with any effect.

I would start Wright and Simms up top with Bassette off the bench. BTA showed last night that running around to no real effect does little for the team.
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Other than the major role in the goal including the assist.
 
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Deity

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #22
MalcSB said:
Other than the major role in the goal including the assist.
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He actually blew the actual chance and got lucky when the rebound fell to him again
 
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AOM

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #23
Sick Boy said:
Have we ever played Simms and Wright upfront together?
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Yep, it wasn't great from what I remember...
Still think Haji is best on that left wing cutting in, but that's not going to work in the current format as he can't do the defensive work
 

ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #24
Whatever system we use, it is negated by the ‘lack of confidence’ around the players.

It’s too early to tell regarding EMC, far too early. He looks like a player trying too hard, and from experience, that just undoes you as a player.
 
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stupot07

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #25
Otis said:
But if we drop him, who have we got to come in? We are so short of numbers in midfield aren't we.
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Its almost like we lost 4 midfielders in the last 18 months and only brought 2 in as replacements...
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #26
MalcSB said:
Other than the major role in the goal including the assist.
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Agreed. And there‘s no doubt he’s giving his best every match he plays.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #27
stupot07 said:
Its almost like we lost 4 midfielders in the last 18 months and only brought 2 in as replacements...
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True Stu, but how regularly were they playing for CCFC over that 18 month period
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #28
ProfessorbyGrace said:
Whatever system we use, it is negated by the ‘lack of confidence’ around the players.

It’s too early to tell regarding EMC, far too early. He looks like a player trying too hard, and from experience, that just undoes you as a player.
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I think things are getting better. Even the defence seems to realise that you can’t pass the ball around in the box now! We looked so vulnerable. Latibaudiere is playing better.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #29
Flying Fokker said:
I think things are getting better. Even the defence seems to realise that you can’t pass the ball around in the box now! We looked so vulnerable. Latibaudiere is playing better.
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There were some iffy passing in the box moments last night.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #30
Could always keep the three at the back but shift to add wingers
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #31
Deity said:
Wright was our marquee signing who we have been playing out of position wide left and wondering why he doesn’t seem to naturally track back with any effect.

I would start Wright and Simms up top with Bassette off the bench. BTA showed last night that running around to no real effect does little for the team.
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Spot on.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #32
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Could always keep the three at the back but shift to add wingers
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That might be ok, with it switching to a bit more of a 5-4-1 out of possession.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #33
Flying Fokker said:
At least two occasions when he ran in at the ball was fizzed in from the opposite side of the box. Unlucky. Certainly not as bad as people suggest.
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He’s also our only wide player to make a goal contribution. Sakamoto is benefitting from his flash in the pan from in Xmas to Feb last season. In reality, he’s also done v little this season too and it goes under the radar.

Whilst Simms gets slagged off for last night in a game he improved us (noted by MR), Bassette and Sakamoto didn’t do anything of note and somehow they’re both the answer? It doesn’t make sense.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #34
Mucca Mad Boys said:
He’s also our only wide player to make a goal contribution. Sakamoto is benefitting from his flash in the pan from in Xmas to Feb last season. In reality, he’s also done v little this season too and it goes under the radar.

Whilst Simms gets slagged off for last night in a game he improved us (noted by MR), Bassette and Sakamoto didn’t do anything of note and somehow they’re both the answer? It doesn’t make sense.
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Sakamoto has barely played. The only first team players who've played less than him are Allen, Bassette and Tavares. He's played 200 less minutes than Mason Clarke.

Our best attacking performance of the season unsurprisngly came with Sakamoto on the right in front of van Ewijk and Wright on the left.
 
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Boicey

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #35
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Sakamoto has barely played. The only first team players who've played less than him are Allen, Bassette and Tavares. He's played 200 less minutes than Mason Clarke.

Our best attacking performance of the season unsurprisngly came with Sakamoto on the right in front of van Ewijk and Wright on the left.
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Agreed. It's mad not to play MVE and Saka together. The only partnership in the whole team that works! And that gives a positive vibe to other players and the fans.
I'd play Wright on the left and Bassette down the middle (for 2 or 3 games at least).
 
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