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Deity

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  • Feb 20, 2024
  • #36
steve101 said:
Some decent young players in the Peterborough side. Edwards, Burrows, Collins, Randall.
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I thought Randall’s running was strong but his finishing was poor.
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 20, 2024
  • #37
Just read about Stephen’s & Burrows they are both highly regarded and both play LCB or LB/LWB.
 
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SBbucks

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  • Feb 20, 2024
  • #38
Deity said:
I thought King asked for the option but I’m not sure it was actually agreed.
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MacAnthony said there was an option.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 20, 2024
  • #39
He looks great, real shame we couldn't get him in the squad in January, though glad to have secured him long term.

Looks like he'd slot in perfectly on the left, although that would mean shifting Haji to the middle where he looks less effective.
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Feb 20, 2024
  • #40
Blackpool 0-3 Peterborough United | EFL Trophy highlights creates 2 brilliant chances before the first goal too
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Feb 20, 2024
  • #41
SBbucks said:
MacAnthony said there was an option.
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I suspect it is just a gentleman's agreement. The player himself would have to be a party for it to be legally binding and that means agreeing his financial package.

Probably just an informal non-binding pre-emption arrangement under which Posh will give us the first chance to try and agree a deal before they can sell elsewhere.

It probably doesn't amount to much. The most important thing is probably that the owners and chairmen of the two clubs seem to trust and respect each other.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 20, 2024
  • #42
Looks good, different type of player to Wright on the left though. Not sure we're necessarily going to use him there.

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slowpoke

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  • Feb 20, 2024
  • #43
fernandopartridge said:
Looks good, different type of player to Wright on the left though. Not sure we're necessarily going to use him there.

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He will replace Wright on the left.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #44
I still think we see wright as predominantly a striker
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #45
Hobo said:
I am not sure what this 'have an option on' means? We have an option on all players, make a bid or don't make a bid?
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Essentially, Peterborough will tell us when any bids are made for the player (or players) in question and layout the financials of the offer to see if we want to match it.
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #46
Simms is desperate for a winger who plays some of the through balls EMC did for Posh tonight. He would feast off them with his runs in-behind that currently don't get seen until too late.
 
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Astute

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #47
Winny the Bish said:
Essentially, Peterborough will tell us when any bids are made for the player (or players) in question and layout the financials of the offer to see if we want to match it.
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What I find strange is we have agreed a deal with one player. The player is still with them and we haven't paid a penny for him yet. Then we have 1st refusal on another player. Why couldn't we have done the same with this player?

I think it is just a wise move by their chairman. Several clubs are sniffing around their players. The other player we have shown interest in hasn't been named. So he could use this on any player he likes to bump the price up.
 
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Deity

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #48
Astute said:
What I find strange is we have agreed a deal with one player. The player is still with them and we haven't paid a penny for him yet. Then we have 1st refusal on another player. Why couldn't we have done the same with this player?

I think it is just a wise move by their chairman. Several clubs are sniffing around their players. The other player we have shown interest in hasn't been named. So he could use this on any player he likes to bump the price up.
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Wanting first option on the player is not the same as saying we want to sign the player.

It sounds to me a similar situation to the Sakamoto transfer. We were watching EMC but whilst doing so another player has caught our eye.

However we are not yet certain we want him but we want to be kept informed in case we do.

Having a legally agreed first option would prevent Posh selling him to anyone else without us being aware there was a proposed transaction for the player. We might choose to match the offer or walk away but it gives us slightly more control than we would otherwise have.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #49
Whoever this mystery player we have first refusal on is if a better option turns up and affordable MR will dump the mystery man and buy the other one and it wouldn’t bother him a bit.
 
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SBbucks

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #50
Astute said:
What I find strange is we have agreed a deal with one player. The player is still with them and we haven't paid a penny for him yet. Then we have 1st refusal on another player. Why couldn't we have done the same with this player?

I think it is just a wise move by their chairman. Several clubs are sniffing around their players. The other player we have shown interest in hasn't been named. So he could use this on any player he likes to bump the price up.
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We have signed EMC, not “agreed a deal” for him. He is our player. It doesn’t matter that we haven’t paid for him yet, that’s not irrelevant.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #51
SBbucks said:
We have signed EMC, not “agreed a deal” for him. He is our player. It doesn’t matter that we haven’t paid for him yet, that’s not irrelevant.
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So we haven't agreed a deal for him?

And as you're being pedantic don't you mean 'relevant'?
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #52
That MacAnthony is a shrew operator I’ve read he gets add ons if Ivan Toney gets an England cap and it’s either 10 or 15% of any future transfer after the initial 6 million fee that could be between another 5mill ion plus. Bet he has similar with us with the MSC deal.
As for MSC he is our player bought and paid for loaned back to Posh for an agreed fee.
 
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SBbucks

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #53
Astute said:
So we haven't agreed a deal for him?

And as you're being pedantic don't you mean 'relevant'?
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Your implication was that we have only agreed a deal for him, i.e. not signed him, and that it mattered that we hadn’t paid for him. Which it doesn’t.

Yes, fair cop on irrelevant.
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #54
Astute said:
What I find strange is we have agreed a deal with one player. The player is still with them and we haven't paid a penny for him yet. Then we have 1st refusal on another player. Why couldn't we have done the same with this player?

I think it is just a wise move by their chairman. Several clubs are sniffing around their players. The other player we have shown interest in hasn't been named. So he could use this on any player he likes to bump the price up.
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Maybe we'd like to wait and see what division we're in before committing to another one
 

Astute

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #55
SBbucks said:
Your implication was that we have only agreed a deal for him, i.e. not signed him, and that it mattered that we hadn’t paid for him. Which it doesn’t.

Yes, fair cop on irrelevant.
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Neither.

I hadn't said we didn't sign him. I said we had come to an agreement. This was against not coming to an agreement with the so called other player. This I find very strange and that works to their chairman's advantage.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #56
Astute said:
What I find strange is we have agreed a deal with one player. The player is still with them and we haven't paid a penny for him yet. Then we have 1st refusal on another player. Why couldn't we have done the same with this player?

I think it is just a wise move by their chairman. Several clubs are sniffing around their players. The other player we have shown interest in hasn't been named. So he could use this on any player he likes to bump the price up.
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Not sure what the first refusal really give us. Surely the player still just goes to the highest bidder (depending on player also agreeing terms)

As to why we didn’t do it with Mason Clark…exactly that and we wanted to secure him now, even if he doesn’t arrive until the summer
 

Astute

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #57
slowpoke said:
That MacAnthony is a shrew operator I’ve read he gets add ons if Ivan Toney gets an England cap and it’s either 10 or 15% of any future transfer after the initial 6 million fee that could be between another 5mill ion plus. Bet he has similar with us with the MSC deal.
As for MSC he is our player bought and paid for loaned back to Posh for an agreed fee.
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He lives underground?

As in like the Gyokeres deal?
 
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Astute

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #58
CCFCSteve said:
Not sure what the first refusal really give us. Surely the player still just goes to the highest bidder (depending on player also agreeing terms)

As to why we didn’t do it with Mason Clark…exactly that and we wanted to secure him now, even if he doesn’t arrive until the summer
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First paragraph is my point. Second paragraph has always been agreed.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #59
slowpoke said:
He will replace Wright on the left.
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Now you've said it I believe it

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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #60
Astute said:
So we haven't agreed a deal for him?

And as you're being pedantic don't you mean 'relevant'?
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We've signed him, he's our player on loan at Peterborough

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Terry_dactyl

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #61
Astute said:
He lives underground?

As in like the Gyokeres deal?
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There’s obviously a mole in the Peterborough camp.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #62
CCFCSteve said:
Not sure what the first refusal really give us. Surely the player still just goes to the highest bidder (depending on player also agreeing terms)
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Isn't it just sort of a way to make sure we are kept in the loop early if any offers or interest is shown in those players. Would give us time to consider if we want to get involved earlier rather than panicking as deals and bids get made public.

Also I'm sure players would add some value to the fact we have been admiring them for long enough to put the first refusal in place. Of course money talks but could tip things in our favour to show they were a long term target if things get tight.
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #63
Bet the league have looked at this deal and wondered if all is well with the game tbf?
 
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steve101

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #64
Deity said:
I thought Randall’s running was strong but his finishing was poor.
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I agree he didn't execute his chances but I liked the way he tried to. The first across the keeper and the second, a dink. He had some pace about him and his control of the ball was excellent. Looked effortless.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #65
CCFCSteve said:
Not sure what the first refusal really give us. Surely the player still just goes to the highest bidder (depending on player also agreeing terms)

As to why we didn’t do it with Mason Clark…exactly that and we wanted to secure him now, even if he doesn’t arrive until the summer
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I did wonder as much about whether it was dependent on promotion or not but yeah if the player doesn't want to sign for us it's pointless
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #66
Deleted member 5849 said:
I did wonder as much about whether it was dependent on promotion or not but yeah if the player doesn't want to sign for us it's pointless
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MSC has signed an
 

Calista

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #67
slowpoke said:
MSC has signed an
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... application to change his name by deed poll?
 
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skybluecam

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #68
People are getting the “option” thing wrong. If we have got one it will give us the ability to buy the player at a set price. All Macanthony said was Doug asked for one, didn’t confirm it.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #69
skybluecam said:
People are getting the “option” thing wrong. If we have got one it will give us the ability to buy the player at a set price. All Macanthony said was Doug asked for one, didn’t confirm it.
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That’s for the one we have an option on right ?
 

robbiekeane

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  • Feb 21, 2024
  • #70
skybluecam said:
People are getting the “option” thing wrong. If we have got one it will give us the ability to buy the player at a set price. All Macanthony said was Doug asked for one, didn’t confirm it.
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Correct
 
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