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Captain Dart

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #106
edgy said:
Well that's it though. We don't know he be a success on the right. If he is then brilliant. But if he isn't, then we shouldn't be shoe horning players into positions.

It's going to be interesting to watch. I suspect Wright will go central with license to rotate with EMC.
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For his first few games back Haji will only be starting as a sub for the last 15 to 30 mins. So there is scope for FL to experiment.
 
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Calista

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #107
skybluecam said:
shocking that when you go from 1 goal contribution in 16 games to 7 in 6 opinions change

oh wait, no it isn't.
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He was doing plenty of good things if people would only pay attention, and was extremely unlucky not to have a few goals and assists to his name. But people preferred to ignore all of that and slag him off, with stupid comments saying he was non-league standard etc., making absolutely no allowances. It happens time and time again.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #108
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Players also just need a run in the team, how many games did he actually play RW for us?

As soon as Lampard put a bit of faith in him to start games, it paid dividends. The main things we see from him; coming to the back post, high volume crosses and lots of dribbling attempts, I can’t see why he wouldn’t be able to play RW.

This applies to both Haji and EMC, the way they dribble, their body mostly opens up as if they want to cut in so it could be argued that won’t translate as well for either of them at RW.
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Didn’t realise Lampard injured Haji Wright. I’d be careful he’s American he’ll probably sue if he finds out.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #109
shmmeee said:
Didn’t realise Lampard injured Haji Wright. I’d be careful he’s American he’ll probably sue if he finds out.
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Robins started Bassette upfront and BTA on the wing before thinking to start EMC LW or RW.

Maybe put your dedicated winger LW, RW and/or move Haji to striker.

Robins dropped the ball on that and there’s little point pretending otherwise.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #110
Calista said:
I reckon he could be effective on the right too. His uncertain early performances were as much to do with adjusting to the league and the team as playing out of position IMO. People were so unfair to him, concentrating on a few little mistakes and seemingly blind to what he can do. It's traditional on here.
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I think Wright is equally capable of playing on the right too, or perhaps you play both of them and swap them over in game
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #111
skybluecam said:
shocking that when you go from 1 goal contribution in 16 games to 7 in 6 opinions change

oh wait, no it isn't.
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It's not how things work on here. You need to have an opinion instantly and then not change it and double down as much as possible, even if you don't actually believe it. You should also be prepared to be mocked relentlessly and have it used against you for years ahead.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #112
fernandopartridge said:
I think Wright is equally capable of playing on the right too, or perhaps you play both of them and swap them over in game
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It’s all dependent on Simms hitting some form. If he doesn’t, Wright will play upfront and EMC LW with a fully fit and ready squad.
 

Frostie

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #113
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Robins started Bassette upfront and BTA on the wing before thinking to start EMC LW or RW.

Maybe put your dedicated winger LW, RW and/or move Haji to striker.

Robins dropped the ball on that and there’s little point pretending otherwise.
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Well that would be fair if any of it was actually true...

Bassette only started 2 league games under Robins.
1st one he was subbed off & EMC came on & played LW.
2nd one we played a back 3 without wingers so not sure how EMC could play LW then.

BTA has never started a game on the left wing.

Ironically enough, Lampard's first game he brought BTA off the bench to play LW & moved EMC to RW to accommodate him...
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #114
He played well against Hull and Plymouth.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #115
pusbccfc said:
How did this work out @GIMOC
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Let’s give it another 48 hours
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #116
Frostie said:
Well that would be fair if any of it was actually true...

Bassette only started 2 league games under Robins.
1st one he was subbed off & EMC came on & played LW.
2nd one we played a back 3 without wingers so not sure how EMC could play LW then.

BTA has never started a game on the left wing.

Ironically enough, Lampard's first game he brought BTA off the bench to play LW & moved EMC to RW to accommodate him...
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No, but BTA played a couple of games a RW even as a sub iirc in the league and cup.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #117
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Robins started Bassette upfront and BTA on the wing before thinking to start EMC LW or RW.

Maybe put your dedicated winger LW, RW and/or move Haji to striker.

Robins dropped the ball on that and there’s little point pretending otherwise.
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Wright was and is our top scorer. The LW position was/is his. EMC looked like a pub player in his cameos on the right.
 
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Calista

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #118
shmmeee said:
EMC looked like a pub player in his cameos on the right.
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Nope
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #119
Calista said:
Nope
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This is Wright and Simms all over again.

He started poorly. You’re allowed to acknowledge that. The idea he was producing anything like he did in those two games for Lampard under Robins and Robins just didn’t pick him is a nonsense.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #120
edgy said:
What if say Wright returns first and him and Simms start clicking again? EMC would have to wait wouldn't he?
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433, EMC, Wright, Simms.

Has to be goals in that forward line.
 

edgy

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #121
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
433, EMC, Wright, Simms.

Has to be goals in that forward line.
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Simms can only play centrally. So if you play those 3, it means playing one of EMC or Wright on the right. Not their strongest position, as far as we've seen so far.
 

skybluecam

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #122
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
433, EMC, Wright, Simms.

Has to be goals in that forward line.
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Simms RW is never happening
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #123
edgy said:
Simms can only play centrally. So if you play those 3, it means playing one of EMC or Wright on the right. Not their strongest position, as far as we've seen so far.
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Professional footballers should be able to adapt, from what I've seen of Simms he's mainly right footed.

The goal he scored at Wembley in the semi-final and when he hit the bar were both with his right foot, was it not.
 
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Calista

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #124
shmmeee said:
This is Wright and Simms all over again.

He started poorly. You’re allowed to acknowledge that. The idea he was producing anything like he did in those two games for Lampard under Robins and Robins just didn’t pick him is a nonsense.
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I didn't claim those things did I?

He didn't immediately deliver end results, but his ability was there to see for anyone who bothered to look properly. I was baffled by the negative comments and said so more than once at the time. He'd play some good interchanges with other players, he showed that he could go past people, he was unlucky not to score several times after getting into some great positions, but kept getting called a non-league player on here. Then people have to backtrack by saying he's undergone some kind of metamorphosis. It's the same guy.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #125
Calista said:
I didn't claim those things did I?

He didn't immediately deliver end results, but his ability was there to see for anyone who bothered to look properly. I was baffled by the negative comments and said so more than once at the time. He'd play some good interchanges with other players, he showed that he could go past people, he was unlucky not to score several times after getting into some great positions, but kept getting called a non-league player on here. Then people have to backtrack by saying he's undergone some kind of metamorphosis. It's the same guy.
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He was poor. His decision making was bad, he wasn’t beating his man, and he was missing sitters.
 
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edgy

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #126
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Professional footballers should be able to adapt, from what I've seen of Simms he's mainly right footed.

The goal he scored at Wembley in the semi-final and when he hit the bar were both with his right foot, was it not.
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Your preferred foot doesn't dictate where you play. How good you are in that position, does. You can't simply shoe-horn your best players into your team.

England tried that in Lampard's era and it ruined the best squad we've ever had.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #127
skybluecam said:
Simms RW is never happening
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I didn't say he was going to play on the wing.

Play them as a front two like Ferguson and Wallace with EMC on the left providing the crosses, with MVE or Sakamoto on the right of midfield.
 

Calista

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #128
skybluecam said:
Simms RW is never happening
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Not right wing, but right side of a flexible front three isn't so crazy IMO. Seem to remember him marauding down that side a few times last season, when fed with the right type of balls. Wide role probably suits Haji better though.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #129
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
I didn't say he was going to play on the wing.

Play them as a front two like Ferguson and Wallace with EMC on the left providing the crosses, with MVE or Sakamoto on the right of midfield.
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We aren’t going to play 442 no matter how much people ask for it. You’d get totally overrun in midfield even more than we do now.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #130
Lampard said he is 2 weeks into 6 weeks out.
 

Calista

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #131
shmmeee said:
He was poor. His decision making was bad, he wasn’t beating his man, and he was missing sitters.
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Seems we saw different things then.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #132
shmmeee said:
We aren’t going to play 442 no matter how much people ask for it. You’d get totally overrun in midfield even more than we do now.
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433.

EMC, Wright, Simms.

Rodoni, Eccles, MVE.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #133
Captain Dart said:
Lampard said he is 2 weeks into 6 weeks out.
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Yeah so out for another month. Bad news.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #134
shmmeee said:
Wright was and is our top scorer. The LW position was/is his. EMC looked like a pub player in his cameos on the right.
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He scored all his goals playing upfront this season with the exception of Oxford at home. His main position in his career has been striker and it’s only been Robins who’s tried to convert him to a LW.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #135
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Yeah so out for another month. Bad news.
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Another 5 or 6 matches.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 10, 2025
  • #136
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 11, 2025
  • #137
Haji's injury seems to have been extended, pretty sure Robin's saying he'd be back around now, like ready?
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jan 11, 2025
  • #138
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Yeah so out for another month. Bad news.
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At least one week will likely be free )if we get knocked out today) or will be another cup game (rather than league)
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Jan 12, 2025
  • #139
wingy said:
Haji's injury seems to have been extended, pretty sure Robin's saying he'd be back around now, like ready?
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Depends if someone has enquired about him I suppose as to how his recovery progresses
 

alexccfc99

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  • Jan 28, 2025
  • #140

Back on the grass alert
 
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