The topic of guessing what the club has to spend is interesting (and refereshing given our previous dire circumstances), but only the club know for sure and speculation, that we are linked to some exciting talent serves to whet the appetite regardless.
To add to the topic of finances though, I don't think anyone has mentioned it seems highly likely at some point soon that we'll be recipients of the sell on clause in the Gyokeres deal. A sum Doug may choose to bank on and justify funding a punt at the prem next season. We should rightly be excited at the possibilites just now!
If he goes for his release fee we'd get around £8m even after paying Brighton (based on 15% of anything over the £20m we received and giving Brighton 20% of that).I still think everyone is getting excited by the Gyokeres sell on like it’s going to make us super rich, but in reality a couple of million pounds isn’t going to make much of a difference to us, particularly as I understand we also pay Brighton some if he’s sold too….
we’ll be left with possibly £2M at most.
Any news on when he’s expected to sign and be announced officially?
Are we still waiting on Robins to get back so they can have the generic handshake and picture?
Yes he can, window is just for registration purposes.Can he even sign until the window is open? I’m not sure how the whole process works tbh.
Can he even sign until the window is open? I’m not sure how the whole process works tbh.
So around 6.4m potentially, that will buy us a couple of quality recruitsIf he goes for his release fee we'd get around £8m even after paying Brighton (based on 15% of anything over the £20m we received and giving Brighton 20% of that).
Mike Ashley???I suspect DK has silent partners.
I still think everyone is getting excited by the Gyokeres sell on like it’s going to make us super rich, but in reality a couple of million pounds isn’t going to make much of a difference to us, particularly as I understand we also pay Brighton some if he’s sold too….
we’ll be left with possibly £2M at most.
Not quite right re the Brighton part. They get a percentage of what we get. Just as we did with MaddisonIt was literally publically stated by Sporting his release clause is €100 million
That's around £86 million and we get 15% sell on of any profit
So £66 million profit for Sporting means we will get £9.9 million when he moves. Brighton have been paid their sell on in the original transfer to Sporting
In short, if/when Vik moves we are in line for another 10 million quid, that's massive.
Hamer, although not publicised I have on good authority that he has a 10% sell on clause in general. So if he goes this summer to a prem team for the reported £20million we should have another couple of million added to the warchest
Not quite right re the Brighton part. They get a percentage of what we get. Just as we did with Maddison
It was literally publically stated by Sporting his release clause is €100 million
That's around £86 million and we get 15% sell on of any profit
So £66 million profit for Sporting means we will get £9.9 million when he moves. Brighton have been paid their sell on in the original transfer to Sporting
In short, if/when Vik moves we are in line for another 10 million quid, that's massive.
Hamer, although not publicised I have on good authority that he has a 10% sell on clause in general. So if he goes this summer to a prem team for the reported £20million we should have another couple of million added to the warchest
But we would have got bonuses for those I believe. Goals, league win etc, Not sure if they have been paid? Not sure what they were but I'd imagine they weren't peanuts. I reckon it would work out somewhere close to equalThat 15% is reduced to 10% as he’s met a lot of objectives
But we would have got bonuses for those I believe. Goals, league win etc, Not sure if they have been paid? Not sure what they were but I'd imagine they weren't peanuts. I reckon it would work out somewhere close to equal
But we would have got bonuses for those I believe. Goals, league win etc, Not sure if they have been paid? Not sure what they were but I'd imagine they weren't peanuts. I reckon it would work out somewhere close to equal
I thought it was reduced by 10% of the 15%, so we’d receive 13.5% of any profit?That 15% is reduced to 10% as he’s met a lot of objectives
Where do you get that from? Seems a bit randomI thought it was reduced by 10% of the 15%, so we’d receive 13.5% of any profit?
It was studied studiously on here,think that was the conclusion¡Where do you get that from? Seems a bit random
It was studied studiously on here,think that was the conclusion¡
Emphatically!!🫣Is there another way to study?
Bonuses were €4m total. He scored 43 and they won the league, surely that would’ve triggered most of them.But we would have got bonuses for those I believe. Goals, league win etc, Not sure if they have been paid? Not sure what they were but I'd imagine they weren't peanuts. I reckon it would work out somewhere close to equal
Joy sI suspect DK has silent partners.
If he goes for his release fee we'd get around £8m even after paying Brighton (based on 15% of anything over the £20m we received and giving Brighton 20% of that).
Hitting the targets drops it to 10% not 5%. Also, if we've hit all the targets that means we've made another £4m anywaythe sell on percentage is only 5% as he’s hit all other targets - £60M profit, £3M sell on and we pay 10% (I believe, it might be more) to Brighton, so we stand to make £2.5M
decent but nothing to get over-excited about
Hitting the targets drops it to 10% not 5%. Also, if we've hit all the targets that means we've made another £4m anyway
Definitely doesn't drop to 10% based on what?…that’s why it drops to 5% - the wording in Portuguese says it drops by up to 10%, which (although badly worded) means it goes from 15 to as low as 5
It definitely doesn’t drop to 10%
anyway, not arguing about it, and probably won’t find out even if / when it happens
I can't speak for King, but if I were him I'd be thinking that the FA Cup run has given us a lot of exposure and maybe there is the possibility of some players being willing to join that ordinarily wouldn't. If we don't have as good a run next year that chance might go, so we have to strike while the iron's hot.Again, unless we sell an asset (Sheaf mainly) where else will this money come from? I cannot see Doug being willing or perhaps able to bankroll such expenditure.
Don’t mean to be cynical, here, but I think a dose of reality is needed, where these rumours are concerned.
We can’t be the only club who have scouted these players, and the presence of Stamenic and his teammate Glazer in London doesn’t exactly fill me with optimism in our apparent interest in the former.
We’ve blown all the Vik and Gus money. There is no more from player sales to reinvest into the team and operating costs/wages etc.
I firmly believe that if we do sign Stamenic, or any other player, expect to see Sheaf gone before or soon after it’s announced.
Definitely doesn't drop to 10% based on what?
Unless you were involved in the negotiation then that's just your interpretation.
Holds the same weight as your words saying it definitely doesn't drop to 10%?is this a copy extract straight from the contract? otherwise I’m not sure why you’re posting this thinking it shows anything…?
It's the translation of the statement Sporting had to provide to the Portuguese Securities Market Commission (CMVM).is this a copy extract straight from the contract? otherwise I’m not sure why you’re posting this thinking it shows anything…?
is this a copy extract straight from the contract? otherwise I’m not sure why you’re posting this thinking it shows anything…?
I can't speak for King, but if I were him I'd be thinking that the FA Cup run has given us a lot of exposure and maybe there is the possibility of some players being willing to join that ordinarily wouldn't. If we don't have as good a run next year that chance might go, so we have to strike while the iron's hot.
While I don't think he's the type of owner to just loan the club huge sums, he may well look at it that if we sign them and can go up then the fee is not a problem. If we don't we have players like Sheaf, Simms, Wright and Ewijk who should be saleable for quite a price in Jan/next summer if it doesn't work out. There is risk with that due to injury or loss of form etc. but we'd have to have a catastrophic season for all of them to lose that much of their value. Then there is the decent potential of sell-ons for Gus and/or Vik.
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