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hill83

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #421
Evo1883 said:
We waited years, and I mean years to compete again... Such a weird fanbase honestly.

I'm sure some would like the 17 year manager merry go round we previously had
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It’s only a couple of divs. Wouldn’t worry about it.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #422
Evo1883 said:
We waited years, and I mean years to compete again... Such a weird fanbase honestly.

I'm sure some would like the 17 year manager merry go round we previously had.
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Some people would rather the club fail than be proved wrong.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #423
hill83 said:
It’s only a couple of divs. Wouldn’t worry about it.
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Agree it’s only a couple of divisions
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #424
hill83 said:
It’s only a couple of divs. Wouldn’t worry about it.
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Was your new profile pic taken immediately after you posted that bee gee message?
To be fair, I'd have looked that smug if I'd thought of it.
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #425
clint van damme said:
Was your new profile pic taken immediately after you posted that bee gee message?
To be fair, I'd have looked that smug if I'd thought of it.
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That’s enough of your jive talkin’
 

Adge

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #426
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Micky Adams got us to 8th in the Championship
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With more than a little help from a Mr Dennis Wise.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #427
Adge said:
With more than a little help from a Mr Dennis Wise.
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Well it is kind of the point of a signing - to improve the team
 
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Adge

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #428
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Well it is kind of the point of a signing - to improve the team
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It is indeed. Adams was lucky as Wise papered over the cracks and almost single handily propelled us to 8th in his half season with us.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #429
Adge said:
It is indeed. Adams was lucky as Wise papered over the cracks and almost single handily propelled us to 8th in his half season with us.
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I suppose you could say the same about McNulty. Up until the Cheltenham home game he had only scored 4 goals and we were outside the play offs
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #430
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I suppose you could say the same about McNulty. Up until the Cheltenham home game he had only scored 4 goals and we were outside the play offs
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In Robins first spell where would we have been without McGoldrick
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #431
Adge said:
It is indeed. Adams was lucky as Wise papered over the cracks and almost single handily propelled us to 8th in his half season with us.
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This is very true. I think it was Plymouth at home where changes were forced on him through injury, he brought Hutchison on and stumbled upon a winning formation, and we went on a decent run after that. Unless he had no choice Adams had one incredibly rigid and inflexible way of playing (based on toil, graft and strength), and he was completely unable to change or adapt. He even admits as much in his own book, which reads like it was penned by Mike Bassett with all the talk of grit, passion, determination, battling & the paucity of any focus on skill & tactics.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #432
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I suppose you could say the same about McNulty. Up until the Cheltenham home game he had only scored 4 goals and we were outside the play offs
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Completely false, there was no luck involved. I even remember the outcry on gmk etc after that Plymouth game where it was worryingly obvious that Adams had no idea how to change things and had literally stumbled on a winning formation.

Plus we made money on McNulty, part of an evolving plan & we’ve developed ever since- how can you class Denis Wise and Don Hutchison as part of a progressive plan? You can’t. Adams had no plan, apart from out muscling and outrunning the opposition.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #433
Ring Of Steel said:
Completely false, there was no luck involved. I even remember the outcry on gmk etc after that Plymouth game where it was worryingly obvious that Adams had no idea how to change things and had literally stumbled on a winning formation.

Plus we made money on McNulty, part of an evolving plan & we’ve developed ever since- how can you class Denis Wise and Don Hutchison as part of a progressive plan? You can’t. Adams had no plan, apart from our muscling and outrunning the opposition.
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It is interesting such a tactical inept manager like Adams has achieved more in his managerial career than Robins
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #434
Grendel said:
In Robins first spell where would we have been without McGoldrick
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Pretty much where we were anyway seeing as McGoldrick left 3 months after Robins joined.

To be honest all these inaccuracies and falsehoods are taking away from whatever argument you’re making, which seem to be that Adams, Presley and Sam Allardyce are better CCFC managers than Mark Robins.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #435
SlowerThanPlatt said:
It is interesting such a tactical inept manager like Adams has achieved more in his managerial career than Robins
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In a different era when kick and rush got you promotion, it’s almost a different sport now. As his subsequent career has proven he is a dinosaur who had his time when you could bully your way to winning games.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #436
Ring Of Steel said:
Pretty much where we were anyway seeing as McGoldrick left 3 months after Robins joined.

To be honest all these inaccuracies and falsehoods are taking away from whatever argument you’re making, which seem to be that Adams, Presley and Sam Allardyce are better CCFC managers than Mark Robins.
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You must be a WUM account
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #437
Grendel said:
You must be a WUM account
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I don’t know what WUM is, explain yourself and I will confirm either way.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #438

In 2012/13 his Port Vale team finished third in L2 which is better than what Robins achieved at Cov? He then got them to 9th in L1 the following season?

Isn’t that better than Robins last 2 full seasons here? At a much smaller club too
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #439
Ring Of Steel said:
I don’t know what WUM is, explain yourself and I will confirm either way.
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Wind Up Merchant.

Old person for troll.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #440
SlowerThanPlatt said:
In 2012/13 his Port Vale team finished third in L2 which is better than what Robins achieved at Cov? He then got them to 9th in L1 the following season?

Isn’t that better than Robins last 2 full seasons here? At a much smaller club too
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2012/2013, great. Read Adams’ book- he had money and a good chairman, he said he was backed all the way and had stability. And Robins got us to 8th in L1 after getting promoted, which is better than 9th, at least to most sane people.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #441
shmmeee said:
Wind Up Merchant.

Old person for troll.
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Ah ok- no I’m not, at least not on purpose. But all these weird theories and errors being used to pretend that Micky Adams, Stephen Presley and even people who were never at our club were better for us than Mark Robins- not gonna let that go without correcting a few people with very short memories.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #442
Weirdest thread ever.

Robins could get us promoted from the championship next year and we'd still have people saying 'yeah but McNulty' 'yeah but look how much he spent' 'yeah but remember that bad signing he made a few years ago?' 'yeah but remember when Russell Slade was a good manager in 2006?'
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #443
Ring Of Steel said:
2012/2013, great. Read Adams’ book- he had money and a good chairman, he said he was backed all the way and had stability. And Robins got us to 8th in L1 after getting promoted, which is better than 9th, at least to most sane people.
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So Adams the dinosaur who plays outdated football gets similar results as Robins?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #444
PVA said:
Weirdest thread ever.

Robins could get us promoted from the championship next year and we'd still have people saying 'yeah but McNulty' 'yeah but look how much he spent' 'yeah but remember that bad signing he made a few years ago?' 'yeah but remember when Russell Slade was a good manager in 2006?'
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you are not wrong. The agenda here is unclear apart from I assume it’s a couple of bitter blokes who are feeling a bit silly that their “taxi for Robins” trolling has been shown to be extravagantly misguided and aren’t willing to agree that he’s doing a superb job in very trying circumstances- without uttering one word of complaint or offering a single excuse.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #445
What's with the Micky Adams obsession?

So he did a good job at a few clubs a long time ago, great. Who cares? Robins is doing a brilliant job here now, that's surely something to enjoy, not pick faults with.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #446
Ring Of Steel said:
you are not wrong. The agenda here is unclear apart from I assume it’s a couple of bitter blokes who are feeling a bit silly that their “taxi for Robins” trolling has been shown to be extravagantly misguided and aren’t willing to agree that he’s doing a superb job in very trying circumstances- without uttering one word of complaint or offering a single excuse.
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Actually as I’ve pointed out before you said Robins has “no funds to buy players” - you then spent the next hour trying to convince everyone he’s spent no money
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #447
SlowerThanPlatt said:
So Adams the dinosaur who plays outdated football gets similar results as Robins?
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except he doesn’t, does he. Adams was found out half a decade ago. Since this Mourinho-esque performance at Port Vale he dismally failed at Tranmere, rocked up at Sligo Rovers then fell into obscurity. Put him in charge of a League One club now and he’d last about two months before being shown the door.

The game has evolved, and if there’s one thing Micky Adams showed he could not do, it’s evolve with it.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #448
Grendel said:
In Robins first spell where would we have been without McGoldrick
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What would Real Madrid be like without Ronaldo, or Messi at Barcelona...

Also, how many goals did McGoldrick score before Robins came in?
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #449
PVA said:
What's with the Micky Adams obsession?

So he did a good job at a few clubs a long time ago, great. Who cares? Robins is doing a brilliant job here now, that's surely something to enjoy, not pick faults with.
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I am also struggling to understand the obsession with proving that Robins is worse than Adams was, it was Stephen Presley earlier on. They just don’t like the guy, they wanted him sacked- maybe he refused them an autograph at some stage or something.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #450
Do you think Liverpool fans are on a forum somewhere reminiscing about how good a manager Roy Hodgson or Gérard Houlier were 15 years ago?

Or do you think they are content with their best and most successful manager in years?

I know as Coventry fans we aren't used to (relative) success and so it's new and unusual for us, but why must some try and pick fault in everything, even during the good times?
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #451
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Actually as I’ve pointed out before you said Robins has “no funds to buy players” - you then spent the next hour trying to convince everyone he’s spent no money
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Robins does not have any transfer funds, he has to generate funds himself by smart management, something no other manager has managed to do with us for a long time.
Can you name our signings so far in the January window?
You just don’t like the guy and for some weird and wonderful reason known only to yourself you refuse to give the proper credit.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #452
PVA said:
Do you think Liverpool fans are on a forum somewhere reminiscing about how good a manager Roy Hodgson or Gérard Houlier were 15 years ago?

Or do you think they are content with their best and most successful manager in years?

I know as Coventry fans we aren't used to (relative) success and so it's new and unusual for us, but why must some try and pick fault in everything, even during the good times?
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we have some of the most cynical fans around- which is understandable I guess, but this goes way beyond cynicism, it’s trying to discredit our most successful manager in 30 years.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #453
PVA said:
Weirdest thread ever.

Robins could get us promoted from the championship next year and we'd still have people saying 'yeah but McNulty' 'yeah but look how much he spent' 'yeah but remember that bad signing he made a few years ago?' 'yeah but remember when Russell Slade was a good manager in 2006?'
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Agreed.

Outside of the elite managers, how many managers are successful at multiple clubs? Not many. Even less of those will be hanging around in League 1.

A lot of these managers come in somewhere, at the right time, and the right circumstances and all goes to plan.

Would Robins have done as well as he is now had he stayed around the time went into admin and had to cut costs during the Pressley era? Probably not. As circumstances had it, he took the club at rock bottom, was able to completely start again with control over the whole process and he’s been successful. Credit to Mark Robins.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #454
Mucca Mad Boys said:
What would Real Madrid be like without Ronaldo, or Messi at Barcelona...

Also, how many goals did McGoldrick score before Robins came in?
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He won’t have a clue.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 20, 2020
  • #455
Ring Of Steel said:
Robins does not have any transfer funds, he has to generate funds himself by smart management, something no other manager has managed to do with us for a long time.
Can you name our signings so far in the January window?
You just don’t like the guy and for some weird and wonderful reason known only to yourself you refuse to give the proper credit.
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So like mostly every manager in England then?
 
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