Ring Of Steel
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And that makes him a better Coventry City manager does it?
Go on, explain why his achievements with Port Vale mean that he was better with us than Robins is, I'd love to hear it
He got Port Vale promoted in 2012/13 out of that league finishing third place
Adams has won 4 promotions - including one to the Premier League
Thats fantastic, fascinating, however unfortunately it doesn't make him a better Coventry City manager than Mark Robins.
I don't know, and he didn't did he.
Stop with the theories, hypotheses, what ifs- he didn't. Robins did.
My personal opinion is that finishing 8th in the Championship is a better achievement than 6th in League 2
Let me guess- Neil Warnock would have done things differently therefore Mark Robins needs to be sacked.And then spending £600,000 on Leon McKenzie, £1m on Kevin Kyle, £1.25m on Elliot Ward, £450k on Chris Birchall & playing long ball football week after week, getting the fans to the point that they are chanting "you don't know what you're doing" at him & destroying the harmony in the offices- does that make any difference to your opinion that Micky Adams was a better manager for us than Mark Robins?
When I am talking about our top three managers ever, I am not sure how Sam Allardyce comes into the equation, please explain what on earth that has to do with anything.
Let me guess- Robins (the man you want sacked) is not potentially in our top three managers because Dave Bassett got more promotions. Why not go the whole hog? "Taxi for Robins, Ian Holloway has way more promotions than him"
And then spending £600,000 on Leon McKenzie, £1m on Kevin Kyle, £1.25m on Elliot Ward, £450k on Chris Birchall & playing long ball football week after week, getting the fans to the point that they are chanting "you don't know what you're doing" at him & destroying the harmony in the offices- does that make any difference to your opinion that Micky Adams was a better manager for us than Mark Robins?
My personal opinion is that finishing 8th in the Championship is a better achievement than 6th in League 2
I am referring to the 2005-06 season. Ward didn’t join us until the following seasonOne might argue that we were stable (relatively) as a club in as much as we were playing at 'home', it was pre-SISU and Adams had a net spend of £1m that season, bringing in Elliott Ward from WHU. It was also our first season at the Ricoh...proper 'good vibe' feelings around the club.
No not really
Robibs signed Kastaneer who makes Kevin Kyle look the ultimate professional
I am referring to the 2005-06 season. Ward didn’t join us until the following season
All his signings were that season were frees apart from Matt Heath for a ‘nominal fee’ - £45,000 apparently
I am referring to the 2005-06 season. Ward didn’t join us until the following season
All his signings were that season were frees apart from Matt Heath for a ‘nominal fee’ - £45,000 apparently
Adams was incapable of spending any money wisely. He just couldn't do it, didn't have the cop on on how to build a team when he had the money to do so.Sorry, that was the season I was referring to as well but overlooked that fact that Ward signed in June 06. I thought it was for the 05-06 season, not at the end of it.
Micky Adams had one way of playing, and his strength was in a 'siege mentality', ie limited funds and having to scour around. But thats all he had- he had no tactical awareness to change a game, he made some of the worst buys we ever made, never had any clue of how to adapt a game to what the opposition were doing, and as soon as other clubs progressed and cottoned onto us he was all at sea.
And one more point- we were 11th on the morning of the final game (v Cardiff I think), and there was nothing to play for at all, we jumped 5 places as nobody above us put in a proper performance as they knew they couldn't make the playoffs. It is not the case, as you are implying, that we were in and around the playoffs all season- we were never less than 10-15 points away the whole season.
No I’ve just said we finished 8th - I haven’t implied anything
Bloody hell you forget those days, he should have been arrested for fraudAnd then spending £600,000 on Leon McKenzie, £1m on Kevin Kyle, £1.25m on Elliot Ward, £450k on Chris Birchall & playing long ball football week after week, getting the fans to the point that they are chanting "you don't know what you're doing" at him & destroying the harmony in the offices- does that make any difference to your opinion that Micky Adams was a better manager for us than Mark Robins?
I’ve not mentioned Allardyce. You’ve mixed me up with another posterok whatever, So cut the messing around- name the managers that in your opinion have been better at Coventry City than Mark Robins. We already know you rate Micky Adams higher (and Sam Allardyce apparently)- who else? Stop the sidestepping and just answer a simple question- if Mark Robins gets us promoted again who is still above him in terms of our best ever manager?
You are right- people do forget and show extreme ignorance of our history and the implications for our current manager who is outperforming all but a tiny few previous managers.Bloody hell you forget those days, he should have been arrested for fraud
I’ve not mentioned Allardyce. You’ve mixed me up with another poster
In my opinion Mark Robins is doing a fine job right now. He is on the cusp of achieving something wonderful which I didn't feel was possible when Russell Slade was sacked. This was a club on a death spiral and somehow Robins has stopped the rot and reversed the trajectory.
We play good football, don't lose so often and I for one, feel engaged with my club.
Let's see where the journey ends up but he is on his way to being the best manager we could have had under these circumstances.
Thats great- name your choices.
Robins spent nothing (apart from wages) in gaining promotion to League one, he brought in players such as Mcnulty, Hyam, Biamou, Kelly on free transfers who now hold a value or have been sold. He took probably the worst team this club has seen (the squad that got relegate to L2) and transformed it into a team good enough for promotion without spending a penny on transfers.
The only fee we spent in L1 before Robins arrived were £25,000 for Vincelot and a rumoured £100,000 for Jones and Turnbull.
Robins has done well but let’s not make out he’s done it on a shoestring - he’s been well backed
The poster I quoted said Robins has had “no funds to buy”Who’s making out he’s done it on a shoestring?
All round club stability is the debate here ..
The poster I quoted said Robins has had “no funds to buy”
It’s nothing to do with that it’s the notion he’s one if the top 3 managers in history which he isn’t
But if you are being entirely honest .. I think you are looking to create a bit of pro-active groundswell, using this thread’s notion - to suggest that if we go up that it wasn’t down to Robins being a good manager all along (despite your posts suggesting he isn’t) and it was “inevitable” we would go up because we are a relative big club.
Why are people trying to argue Robins isn't one of the best managers ever here under the circumstances ... Its bizzare
He's totally revitalised the footballing side of things from the bottom up, longer contracts, better players, much better football, a promotion, a cup win and hopefully a promotion this year... Its remarkable
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