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Mark Labo Interview (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Jan 15, 2014
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sky blue john

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #71
Kingokings204 said:
I
completely agree. They know exactly whats for sale and whats not, Why are they stumbling is the question?
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They are stumbling because the freehold with acl in place gets them no immediate revenue.
 

James Smith

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #72
sky blue john said:
They are stumbling because the freehold with acl in place gets them no immediate revenue.
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So why not make an offer for ACL first?
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #73
The encumbered freehold IS NOT FOR SALE.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #74
Kingokings204 said:
For some reason I don't think they want to buy the ricoh. It sounds as if they want a cheap lease deal really. Why spend another x million into something which has been a disaster for them. Think about it if they wanted the ricoh then they should be moving hell and earth in making it happen and they actually don't seem fussed.
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Think you have it there, they want to purchase ACL with the lease, extended to 100 years (because that adds value).

But that will mean senior figures at ACL losing their jobs, which I presume is why Labovich alluded to 'senior figures misleading the council' in his last statement.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #75
Confirmed what I said. It is not for sale. She says sisu know and we know sisu know. arrrrghhhh makes me so mad.

"THE FREEHOLD IS NOT FOR SALE." AL
 

Astute

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #76
James Smith said:
So why not make an offer for ACL first?
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They wouldn't even pay the money owed to Higgs from the talks previously. To me all they want to do is pay next to nothing and get CCC to sort out ACL for them. It doesn't look like their scare tactics have worked with the council.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #77
Lease is available tomorrow and sisu know this. Sisu know CCC cant sell freehold so what are they doing?
 

James Smith

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #78
Astute said:
And without knowing what SISUE want how can a value be arrived at? Do they just want the stadium part of the arena? Or do they want everything including all of the surrounding land. If they had ever said what they wanted a decision could have been made by now. But also when they have said what they want they have changed their minds once offered it. Who would have guessed that they would have turned down rent free this season then 100k the next two when they said they wanted a lower rent?
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They do seem to move the goal posts quite a bit. We started off this sorry affair because Sisu didn't negotiate the high rent they just stopped paying it. Then when better offers were made on the rent to the level Sisu wanted, it became about the pie money etc.
 

blueflint

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #79
Kingokings204 said:
we all agree with this.
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sorry but thats shite i don't agree with it and am not the only one make an offer
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #80
"No deal to be done as we cant sell freehold. We move on." AL
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #81
blueflint said:
sorry but thats shite i don't agree with it and am not the only one make an offer
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There is nothing to bid on you moron so you don't agree well then youre wrong. Wont sell freehold so don't bid.
 

James Smith

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #82
Astute said:
They wouldn't even pay the money owed to Higgs from the talks previously. To me all they want to do is pay next to nothing and get CCC to sort out ACL for them. It doesn't look like their scare tactics have worked with the council.
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To quote a manager I once had "either pay up or piss off"
 

blueflint

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #83
Kingokings204 said:
For some reason I don't think they want to buy the ricoh. It sounds as if they want a cheap lease deal really. Why spend another x million into something which has been a disaster for them. Think about it if they wanted the ricoh then they should be moving hell and earth in making it happen and they actually don't seem fussed.
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how has it been a disaster for SISU they caused the problems by not paying rent and not negotiating
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #84
THE FREEHOLD IS NOT FOR SALE.

Confirmed
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #85
blueflint said:
how has it been a disaster for SISU they caused the problems by not paying rent and not negotiating
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Disaster as in the club as a whole I meant. apologies
 

blueflint

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #86
RoboCCFC90 said:
That's bollocks!!

The Council need to clarify whether they are to sell the Freehold or anything else.

Then the Club need to provide an independent evaluation to determine the best price for what they're bidding for.

The Council/ACL could then do the same to ensure there are fair negotiations.

A mediator is brought and the two prices are discussed and a fair price is determined between both evaluations.

If everyone agrees then we have a deal. With Ann Lucas saying "Make me the best offer" without knowing what you're bidding for is idiotic!


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why is it bollocks if SISU want the ricoh make an offer they never have done
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #87
RENTAL DEAL TOMORROW OR WE MOVE ON!!!!!!

I like AL. simple and clear.
 

blueflint

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #88
RoboCCFC90 said:
Like I said CCFC do need to get the ball rolling but they need clarification from AL as to what is for sale, the Council don't need to do anything, in my last quote I said "Could" but what if the Council are given a price after a valuation and deem it unfair? Would it not be plausible to get two valuations and compare?


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why make an offer the council will then look at the offer and decide yes or no
 

James Smith

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #89
Kingokings204 said:
THE FREEHOLD IS NOT FOR SALE.

Confirmed
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So new stadium it is then : facepalm:

If Sisu had bought ACL when they first had the chance they could have bought it for a lot less than it's likely to cost now.
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Noggin

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #90
RoboCCFC90 said:
What Shane O'Connor should have said to Labo is will you "Get an independent valuation for the Arena and with the Council also getting something similar we can then start negotiations at the lowest valuation which can then be negotiated on between the higher valuation"


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The council CAN NOT!!! sell what sisu want. So a valuation is pointless. The Council DO NOT! own what the football team needs.

The Council can sell the Freehold, ACL can sell the Leasehold, being able to play a team there and getting match day revenues come from owning the Leasehold (or of course owning the freehold without a leaseholder) So the sensible option is for sisu to buy from ACL,

I've said this before but we own a flat in a building of flats, the freehold for this building is available for £15k , each one of the flats is worth 160-180k and there is 20 of them. What sisu want is for the freehold owner to buy all the flats so that they can sell the whole package. But who in their right mind would do this? especially when the person you are eventually going to sell too, is untrustworthy and breaks agreed deals,

What happens if the council buys out ACL and then sisu say nope we arn't buying at the deal we agreed, this leaves the council running the areana, which most likely lets sisu break the deal and leave the council struggling so they can buy at a cheaper rate than agreed.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #91
SISU will come back for next season. 100% certain no new stadium. No point now prolonging the losses at sixfields so just bite the bullet and at least they would make money again with good crowds and increased sales.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #92
SISU knew all along the ricoh wasn't for sale as this is 100% why they didn't put in a bid for it. Crafty gits. They want as cheap as possible lease/rental deal and then move back after 1 year in time for 14/15 season in my opinion. Sixfields was just a stop gap to fulfil their fixtures and get a better lease/rental deal.
 

blueflint

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #93
Kingokings204 said:
There is nothing to bid on you moron so you don't agree well then youre wrong. Wont sell freehold so don't bid.
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seems your the moron they could bid on anything they want then its up to the other party to accept or reject and that means freehold or long lease duh
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #94
Sisu can't bid as they know the freehold isn't for sale and hence why they never have. Finally confirmed why they haven't. Sisu are wasting everyone's time. Hope that's helps you and you learn from your error as you seem smart so I hope this for you.
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #95
Kingokings204 said:
RENTAL DEAL TOMORROW OR WE MOVE ON!!!!!!

I like AL. simple and clear.
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If it's rental deal or nothing then we probably do need to move on and build our own ground.


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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #96
Astute said:
But wouldn't the council need to know what SISUE want before any agreement could be made? SISUE have lost all trust from the council and from the vast majority of us fans. They need to sort out building up trust before anyone takes them serious again.
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stupot07 said:
If it's rental deal or nothing then we probably do need to move on and build our own ground.


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Why? Come back, agree deals, stick to them, gain trust. £30m doesn't grow on trees the club will still be paying rental deals to its owner. Seems to me we are no better off in a new stadium that's smaller, away from the fanbase and not in Coventry. Humble pie required from otium
 

mrtickle

Member
  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #97
Kingokings204 said:
Sisu can't bid as they know the freehold isn't for sale and hence why they never have. Finally confirmed why they haven't. Sisu are wasting everyone's time. Hope that's helps you and you learn from your error as you seem smart so I hope this for you.
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Why are sisu wasting everyone's time? The council, maybe. I can't see why they can't sell freehold, it just appears they don't want to.

I'm sick of all of this. I wish I could bang their heads together and get this sorted. The fans are losing out big time!!!
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #98
Labo is a clown hasn't got a clue what he's on about.

Sisu go from strength to strength with the idiots they employ.

Who would do business with someone who blubbers like a 10 year old who has just been told off?

Quite embarrassing just listening to him ointlaugh:

Sisu put up or shut up or build your shed, but give us some thing so as supporters we know whether to move on or not?
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #99
It has been said many time Councils all over the country hardly ever sell Freeholds, if they do they are not cheap out of sisu range I would have thought.
mrtickle said:
Why are sisu wasting everyone's time? The council, maybe. I can't see why they can't sell freehold, it just appears they don't want to.

I'm sick of all of this. I wish I could bang their heads together and get this sorted. The fans are losing out big time!!!
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Kingokings204

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #100
I agree with all the comments on here from real sky blues fans. They can't sell the freehold due to 40 year contracts still to run and all of the above. Plus makes no sense as sisu wouldn't offer a real amount and apparently according to AL sisu knew this all along and I agree with her that sisu knew Ricoh wasn't for sale ever.

Sisu have finally been caught out and now have to either eat humble pie as the user above mentions or build their stadium and I'm 100% this won't happen. No financial sense at all as we all know.

ML sounded like a stumbling little kid this morning as I listened live. Kept going on about the Ricoh and then more talk about the Ricoh. What a loser. I thought the ship has sailed and we have moved on. Yes ok ML it's the 15th jan and you're still on about the Ricoh. Pathetic cretin
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #101
The only reason SISU can't pitch an offer is, they haven't got the money.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #102
Must be waiting for that Rich Arab....

Hobo said:
The only reason SISU can't pitch an offer is, they haven't got the money.
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Hobo

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #103
letsallsingtogether said:
Must be waiting for that Rich Arab....
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Rich Arab, I don't think Dundee United fans are that Rich do you? ;-)
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #104
Guilfoyle Was on Shane he reckons It needs another party to show up and a deal would soon get done.
 

Otis

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  • Jan 15, 2014
  • #105
wingy said:
Guilfoyle Was on Shane he reckons It needs another party to show up and a deal would soon get done.
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The Labour Party or Lib Dems?



Or maybe UKIP!! I reckon Nigel Farage would sort it all out in an instance!
 
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