SBT:
I just cannot see how you can justify that today, 2 men butchered a man in the street. In front of a school. Forget all other factors, and just explain to me how you think this is acceptable?
Fine words from an admitted socialist...please don't insult UKIP by branding them with the BNP. There is nothing wrong with nationalism if it is channelled in the right way - look at the Olympics or when England play in the World Cup. We are too shy about being proud of our Britishness in this country - EU integration would be a nightmare. Personally I'd prefer to see us as the 51st state of the US, which we are far closer to in terms of values and culture.
6 years before intervention in Iraq so that's irrelevant, it was 9/11 that made Iraq happen, not the Kurdish-Iraq civil war.
I'm I'll-formed? Yet you make a sweeping statement that has no evidence while I have an example that refutes that, Lebanon, Christians and Muslims co-exist together and there is a certain ratio of Christian:Muslim ministers to ensure proportional representation of both religions. Also, Hezballoh have also support building of Synogogues etc. in Lebanon.
Syria also have ministers who are Orthodox Christians in Government.
All religions get persecuted time to time, you name them, they're as bad as each other, look at Israel and Iran, bad as each other, neither are right.
When did he say that is was acceptable? He isn't justifying it.
Although he is saying "the West is responsible in some way due to "our" actions" - annoying nonsense. But he is clearly not defending what has gone on today.
When did he say that is was acceptable? He isn't justifying it.
Although he is saying "the West is responsible in some way due to "our" actions" - annoying nonsense. But he is clearly not defending what has gone on today.
Most know on here that you are a complete tool but this is the most ridiculous staement for a long time
65 million people in this country so !.5 million make us nationalistic and also the tories are a minority government as in the amount of people who voted for them
So the Iraq and Afghan wars have nothing to do with the growth of extremist Islamist groups in the Middle East, which has spread.
but he is hinting soldiers are "murdering" civilians in afghan. they are there ding their jobs, and trying to help. so I don't buy this "the west started it, so terrorists have a right to do this"
For once we are in agreement.
Someone died a d sky blue Taylor decides to bore us with his 6th form debating society crap. It's not appropriate. It's not even appropriate arguing against it.
Of course the irony is that people like him would never be allowed to express any such views in the kind of utopian state controlled society he craves for. He'd be frogmarched off to the gulag before he could say "power to the people".
He has youth as an excuse and will look back and laugh in years to come but threads discussing someone who died in obviously dubious circumstances really should show some dignity and respect.
so why is the animal on camera british sounding?
For once we are in agreement.
Someone died a d sky blue Taylor decides to bore us with his 6th form debating society crap. It's not appropriate. It's not even appropriate arguing against it.
Of course the irony is that people like him would never be allowed to express any such views in the kind of utopian state controlled society he craves for. He'd be frogmarched off to the gulag before he could say "power to the people".
He has youth as an excuse and will look back and laugh in years to come but threads discussing someone who died in obviously dubious circumstances really should show some dignity and respect.
Doing their jobs? Some are, some aren't, but some servicemen have committed war crimes and your comments are terribly ill-informed.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/mar/29/afghanistan-british-army-crimes
Did you miss the 'which has spread part'?
Is that meant to be an insult because I'm a socialist?
The British are quite condescending actually.
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I have plenty of evidence you fool, 1 example , now lebonon may have a more equal poplation of both yet, as I certainly know more about this subject than you , why don't you research china , India just for a start
I will help you, google, Christians persecuted in China or India, I haven't done it but as I know I'm sure there will be plenty of evidence
There are more countries similar
Yes - it's a ridiculous ideology, thoroughly discredited. If you are interested in seeing the effects of full blown socialism, visit North Korea.
Nobody is as condescending as you.
India and China aren't Muslim countries and you explicitly said that 'You are an ill informed fool all Christians in muslim countries are a persecuted minority', where's you examples of what you say?
You also conveniently ignored the part where I clearly said it has happened to all religions who are minorities in those countries, Britain has a history of persecution towards Catholics and Protestants (depends what era).
India and China aren't Muslim countries and you explicitly said that 'You are an ill informed fool all Christians in muslim countries are a persecuted minority', where's you examples of what you say?
You also conveniently ignored the part where I clearly said it has happened to all religions who are minorities in those countries, Britain has a history of persecution towards Catholics and Protestants (depends what era).
I'd say the majority are, the 1% aren't. I know our forces aren't all saints, but not many behead or butcher people in the street.
And those 'terrorists' who did that are in the 1% as well - does that make it better? It doesn't to me.
did you miss them still going on about the crusades part? they have hated the west long before 2001. the WTC was bombed before. so don't give me this shit about 2001 and 2003 invasions causing this, when the crusades happened a thousand years ago and this is what started it. and before you hop on google, idk when the exact year the crusades were.
That's not as relevant now, if anything the Zionist movement has intensified the feeling in the Middle East, the long term issue for this, and short term has been the gulf wars, I'd be pissed, as I'm sure much of us on here would be if foreign troops were in the UK, it gives the extremists an audience to speak to. Like in all times of crisis.
No, 9/11 claimed 3000 odd lives and many more injured, 7/7 claimed 52 people, 700 injured, more people died jumping out of the WTC than people killed by the blasts of 7/7 to have the 2 tragedies on the same level is actually a joke and actually, an insult to 9/11.
Lets not forget that the USA is a country that is excessively nationalistic.
To say
people don't give a shit about 7/7 is bullshit and you know it!
Ill-informed.
Fact check time:
1) we're not in Iraq, we pulled out in 2009
2) the UK and USA have fought organisations that threaten them who happen to be Islamic, we have not targeted "Islam" - there is no reason for Muslims to feel antagonised per se
3) Different nationality soldiers patrolling the streets - the killers in Woolwich were British, they have no excuse for taking "revenge"
4) Congo has huge natural resources as does North Korea
5) We liberated the Iraqis and Afghans, as they could not liberate themselves under the iron fist of previous regimes - the terrorists have fought back there, not the people, because they were being threatened by the spread of democracy
I have never read such a load of pre pubescent twaddle in my entire life. You seem more interested in attacking the comments of people who are genuinely sickened and outraged by this act
than showing a sense of disgust that an innocent person has been hacked to pieces in broad daylight. Unbelievable
That post was directed at a comment about 7/7 being on par with 9/11, which isn't really, so I don't know where this comment has come from.
40 years ago every irish person we thought was a member of the IRA,
Coventry was bombed by them.little park street area was done.
Not all the people from the same race/religion are terrorists.
It's always a small minority.
Thats what city fans are in coventry
I have never read such a load of pre pubescent twaddle in my entire life. You seem more interested in attacking the comments of people who are genuinely sickened and outraged by this act
than showing a sense of disgust that an innocent person has been hacked to pieces in broad daylight. Unbelievable
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