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edgy

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #1
When were we last awarded a penalty?

When did an opposition player last receive a red card?
 
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tom88

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #2
Rotherham this season we got a penalty.
 
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KersleyDigs

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #3
One player got a second yellow with about 5 mins left didn't they? Didn't impact the game though. We really are due some decisions
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #4
You tend to have to be in the opponents penalty box to be awarded penalties.


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SBAndy

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #5
KersleyDigs said:
One player got a second yellow with about 5 mins left didn't they? Didn't impact the game though. We really are due some decisions
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Millwall away. 2-1 up at the time.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #6
tom88 said:
Rotherham this season we got a penalty.
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We’ve only had one penalty this season, home to Bournemouth.
 

larry_david

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #7
Because we don't go down.

O hare wins 75000 free kicks a game but whenever he's in the box he never takes anyone on or he never goes down.

Max last week got clipped and stood up. Kieffer Moore would have done 3 summerdsaults and cried assault in the same situation
 
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gspotgaz

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #8
Whenever we get clipped in box we just keep going. Whenever we get hacked down we just get up and jog off and no one is kicking off at the ref.

No shithousery or game management at all. It’s bizarre watching as a fan. It’s probably cost us a fair few extra points this season.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #9
Max last week got clipped and stood up. Kieffer Moore would have done 3 summerdsaults and cried assault in the same situation

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It was a foul and in the area I think a different ref would have given that unfortunately we had a “homer” referee.
 
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edgy

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #10
gspotgaz said:
Whenever we get clipped in box we just keep going. Whenever we get hacked down we just get up and jog off and no one is kicking off at the ref.

No shithousery or game management at all. It’s bizarre watching as a fan. It’s probably cost us a fair few extra points this season.
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I think Kelly is quite good at chirping at referees.
 
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MusicDating

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #11
gspotgaz said:
Whenever we get clipped in box we just keep going. Whenever we get hacked down we just get up and jog off and no one is kicking off at the ref.

No shithousery or game management at all. It’s bizarre watching as a fan. It’s probably cost us a fair few extra points this season.
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^ This.

Have a watch of the highlights from last night's games. 3 soft pens, all bought by the attacker.

Ideally I want us to be an honest, sporting team, but frankly, when everyone else is being c\/nt$, then why shouldn't we.
 
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rhino1002

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #12
For us to get penalties we need to have the ball at our feet in the box
we look great in possession until we get to the edge of the area and then we turn back to keep possession
we need someone to take a chance and get into the box to get the opposition to make a tackle if we don't do that we will never get penalties
the opposition do it to us all of the time and that's why we conceded penalties because we dive in to tackle
 
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Mcbean

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #13
Still nothing coming out of the lucky box for us so far - so many blocks in the penalty box - need our guys to be in the six yard box to score
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #14
Penalties are more likely to be awarded to good teams. Good teams also get fouled more, which leads to more red cards.

We are not a good team.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #15
edgy said:
When were we last awarded a penalty?

When did an opposition player last receive a red card?
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Not since last season
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #16
Seen Rotherham saying the same things they never get awarded stuff it’s clearly the new promoted sides against established champ sides struggling here
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #17
MusicDating said:
^ This.

Have a watch of the highlights from last night's games. 3 soft pens, all bought by the attacker.

Ideally I want us to be an honest, sporting team, but frankly, when everyone else is being c\/nt$, then why shouldn't we.
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Difference being their attackers were clever trying to get the first contact in the area on a 50/50 ball and looking for a penalty. We have to wise up.
 
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edgy

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #18
SBT said:
Penalties are more likely to be awarded to good teams. Good teams also get fouled more, which leads to more red cards.

We are not a good team.
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I'd like to see that stats on that. O'Hare must be up there with the most fouled player in the league.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #19
cc84cov said:
Seen Rotherham saying the same things they never get awarded stuff it’s clearly the new promoted sides against established champ sides struggling here
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But then the teams that come up are not as good as nearly all those already in the Championship, plus the three who come down from the Premier.
 

edgy

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  • Feb 17, 2021
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larry_david

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  • Feb 17, 2021
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We don't have anyone who runs into the box except dacosta.

It's like aa forcefield when we approach. We auto turn back. Mccallum, o hare, Allen, Shipley they all do it. Shipley would rather knock it 30 yards out of play than take someone on at the moment
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #22
Otis said:
But then the teams that come up are not as good as nearly all those already in the Championship, plus the three who come down from the Premier.
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That said we have been denied some this season you can bet would have been given against.
 

edgy

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #23
We are also the most fouled team away from home.

Appears to mean nothing in terms of outcome of games.
 

edgy

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #24
O'Hare the 3rd most fouled player in the league behind Nick Powell and Sarr.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 17, 2021
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SBT said:
Penalties are more likely to be awarded to good teams. Good teams also get fouled more, which leads to more red cards.

We are not a good team.
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We do have the most fouled player in the league though. So by your reckoning also the best?

Edit: just saw Edgys posts change that to “one of”
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #26
edgy said:
O'Hare the 3rd most fouled player in the league behind Nick Powell and Sarr.
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Needs to go to the deck in the box way more in that case
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #27
cc84cov said:
Seen Rotherham saying the same things they never get awarded stuff it’s clearly the new promoted sides against established champ sides struggling here
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It's more to do with the fact that both us and / or Rotherham tend to spend a lot less time with the ball in the opposition's area. I remember Strachan commenting once during our 7 game winning run in response to an assertion that we relied on penalties. He said something like "Well, you only get penalties if you spend a lot of time attacking and getting in to good positions"
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 17, 2021
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shmmeee said:
We do have the most fouled player in the league though. So by your reckoning also the best?

Edit: just saw Edgys posts change that to “one of”
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The correlation isn't as strong as you suggest, so no. But of course I think O'Hare is a decent player. The amount he's fouled suggests that other teams agree he needs to be shut down.
 

Nick

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #29
Do we actually appeal and get on at the ref?

The one on DaCosta against Watford, Sarr basically 2 hand pushed him over and we just stood and watched. If you watch other teams then they would be going mad.

Also since there are no crowds you notice it more, a scream always help makes a decision get made.
 
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edgy

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #30
You can only hear Viveash appealing for stuff.
 

stupot07

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #31
We don't get the decisions because we don't have the ball in the right areas enough, asking questions of defenders and tempting them into challenges. On the odd occasions we do we aren't streetwise enough to play for them. How many freekicks do we get within 35 yards? Not many at all.

And for all of the fouls on O'Hare the vast majority of them are in the middle third of the pitch.

Its also down to our lack of pace in the final third to really put defenders under pressure. And how many ball carriers? O'hare really and that's it.

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Otis

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  • Feb 17, 2021
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stupot07 said:
We don't get the decisions because we don't have the ball in the right areas enough, asking questions of defenders and tempting them into challenges. On the odd occasions we do we aren't streetwise enough to play for them. How many freekicks do we get within 35 yards? Not many at all.

And for all of the fouls on O'Hare the vast majority of them are in the middle third of the pitch.

Its also down to our lack of pace in the final third to really put defenders under pressure. And how many ball carriers? O'hare really and that's it.

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Allen, to a degree.
 

mrtrench

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #33
larry_david said:
Because we don't go down.

O hare wins 75000 free kicks a game but whenever he's in the box he never takes anyone on or he never goes down.

Max last week got clipped and stood up. Kieffer Moore would have done 3 summerdsaults and cried assault in the same situation
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O'Hare started taking players on in the box on Saturday, albeit later in the game. Hopefully he picks up from where he left off - because they will foul him if he does.
 
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larry_david

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #34
mrtrench said:
O'Hare started taking players on in the box on Saturday, albeit later in the game. Hopefully he picks up from where he left off - because they will foul him if he does.
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You could tell he was royally hacked off so decided tto grab the bull by the horns and just ripped them to shreds. It was great to see
 
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 17, 2021
  • #35
Nick said:
Do we actually appeal and get on at the ref?

The one on DaCosta against Watford, Sarr basically 2 hand pushed him over and we just stood and watched. If you watch other teams then they would be going mad.

Also since there are no crowds you notice it more, a scream always help makes a decision get made.
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Our players don’t even fight for decisions Kelly and fadz but the rest are flappers
 
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