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Lyle Taylor (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Skybluefaz
  • Start date Jun 1, 2020
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #1
Lyle Taylor: Charlton striker will not play when season resumes, says Lee Bowyer - Lyle Taylor: Charlton striker will not play when season resumes, says Lee Bowyer
Saving himself for us. Another angle on why football shouldn't return, must be plenty of players in his situation.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #2
Turns out 3 Charlton players are unwilling to play
 
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CCFC88

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #3
There was always going to be a number of cases like this. Those who wanted to play on, when asked, said things like "Just extend players contracts for another month."

Not that easy, a contract requires 2 willing parties
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #4
Good player him, we were linked with him when Pressley was in charge. He'd be a good signing, something of the Leon Clark about him though I doubt it is us that is interested.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #5
fernandopartridge said:
Good player him, we were linked with him when Pressley was in charge. He'd be a good signing, something of the Leon Clark about him though I doubt it is us that is interested.
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If he's waiting for a 'life changing' move I doubt we'd be offering that kind of money. Like you say though, a good player, emphatic finisher. Probably out of our bracket though.
 

Danceswithhorses

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #6
Anyone who chooses not to play whilst under contract..ie Lyle, should not be a target for our club.
It show a distinct lack of loyalty to his club and teammates.
By not playing, his club and teammates may get relegated, and this may adversely affect their futures.
It's a very selfish decision by him.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #7
Skybluefaz said:
If he's waiting for a 'life changing' move I doubt we'd be offering that kind of money. Like you say though, a good player, emphatic finisher. Probably out of our bracket though.
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Well, signing for us would be a ‘life changing’ move. Just Probably not the sort of changes he’d have hoped for.
 
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #8
I doubt if he's got a lot left in him anyway. He's 30 now. If he was 23 - 25, I'd say snap him up, but now just let the spoilt brat get on with it!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #9
Houchens Head said:
I doubt if he's got a lot left in him anyway. He's 30 now. If he was 23 - 25, I'd say snap him up, but now just let the spoilt brat get on with it!
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Yep. Likely looking for the big payday before retirement.
 

bawtryneal

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #10
Danceswithhorses said:
Anyone who chooses not to play whilst under contract..ie Lyle, should not be a target for our club.
It show a distinct lack of loyalty to his club and teammates.
By not playing, his club and teammates may get relegated, and this may adversely affect their futures.
It's a very selfish decision by him.
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So, your contract has 4 weeks to run. You had assumed you would have finished the season 4 weeks ago. You have signed a contract with another club on double the salary for 3 years from July 1st. This is your last chance of a contract of this type and size for the remainder of your career. It will set you and your family up for the next 10 years. Your current club (Charlton) will not cover the cost of your insurance if you get injured and jeopardize your new contract.
What would you do ????
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #11
He should play until his contract ends. That simple
 

Danceswithhorses

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #12
bawtryneal said:
So, your contract has 4 weeks to run. You had assumed you would have finished the season 4 weeks ago. You have signed a contract with another club on double the salary for 3 years from July 1st. This is your last chance of a contract of this type and size for the remainder of your career. It will set you and your family up for the next 10 years. Your current club (Charlton) will not cover the cost of your insurance if you get injured and jeopardize your new contract.
What would you do ????
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Pay for your own insurance ?
Do your bit for your club and teammates...don't let them down.
If you've already signed the new contract for your new club, there's no real excuse for not playing.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #13
Danceswithhorses said:
Anyone who chooses not to play whilst under contract..ie Lyle, should not be a target for our club.
It show a distinct lack of loyalty to his club and teammates.
By not playing, his club and teammates may get relegated, and this may adversely affect their futures.
It's a very selfish decision by him.
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If they start on June 20 he will only be under contract for 10 days, there's no way they're completing all the remaining games in 10 days so the reality is they are asking players to play without a contract.

So what happens if he plays and gets a career ending injury?
 

Danceswithhorses

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #14
chiefdave said:
If they start on June 20 he will only be under contract for 10 days, there's no way they're completing all the remaining games in 10 days so the reality is they are asking players to play without a contract.
So what happens if he plays and gets a career ending injury?
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Legally he has signed a contract (in exchange for quite a lucrative wage), and should fulfil that contract unless injured...which he is not.
He would have be the first to kick off if the club had arbitrarily broken the contract by say, not paying him for the last 10 days of his contract because he hadn't played.
 

better days

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #15
bawtryneal said:
So, your contract has 4 weeks to run. You had assumed you would have finished the season 4 weeks ago. You have signed a contract with another club on double the salary for 3 years from July 1st. This is your last chance of a contract of this type and size for the remainder of your career. It will set you and your family up for the next 10 years. Your current club (Charlton) will not cover the cost of your insurance if you get injured and jeopardize your new contract.
What would you do ????
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There will also be a very big signing on fee
The rules say it has to be paid over the course of the contract but it will even bigger than usual because whoever he's signing for won't have to pay a transfer fee
 

stay_up_skyblues

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #16
If he was refusing to play for Charlton ahead of a move to City we’d already be sending him heart emojis on Instagram calling him a legend.

At the end of the day he has a contract which, if he breaks, his club can sue him presumably for damages and he will have to deal with that. I don’t personally blame the bloke, he’s got one last payday if he’s thirty. Could be the difference between setting his family up for life etc....
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #17
Danceswithhorses said:
Legally he has signed a contract (in exchange for quite a lucrative wage), and should fulfil that contract unless injured...which he is not.
He would have be the first to kick off if the club had arbitrarily broken the contract by say, not paying him for the last 10 days of his contract because he hadn't played.
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You'd force a player that doesn't want to play in a maximum of what, 2 games, before his contract expires? Are you sure players in that situation would be giving it 100% rather than being primarily concerned in ensuring they don't pick up an injury?

What is the league doing to ensure there isn't a similar issue to the Bundesliga where the injury rate has increased?
 

Danceswithhorses

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #18
chiefdave said:
You'd force a player that doesn't want to play in a maximum of what, 2 games, before his contract expires?
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He shouldn't need to be 'forced' to play.
He is a well paid, professional sportsman and should play for his team and his team mates.
That he's willing to screw his team and teammates futures for his own benefit is very sad.
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #19
Not sure the championship is his level anyway.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 1, 2020
  • #20
Tommo1993 said:
Not sure the championship is his level anyway.
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11 in 22 this season, 11 goals in every 146 minutes. That's excellent. Whether sustainable who knows.

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CCFC88

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  • Jun 2, 2020
  • #21
Whilst I can see both sides of the argument, if Charlton are in 3rd place fighting for autos or playoffs I think he plays
 
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tisza

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  • Jun 2, 2020
  • #22
Think there's more than a few in for shock when they realize the Championship market is going to shrink. Already clubs trying to negotiate wage cuts for next season if it starts BCD. - not just gate money but corporate sponsorship etc will be missing.
Plus can see this 15-20m salary cap being rushed through.
 
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derbyskyblue

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  • Jun 2, 2020
  • #23
Im thinking there is going to be a huge wake up call regarding players wages , sign on fees etc next season and even the following seasons.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jun 2, 2020
  • #24
If Charlton agreed to cover his new contract if he get's injured then go for it. If not, which of course they won't, well then of course I wouldn't play either.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 2, 2020
  • #25
pretty sure we will struggle to compete with wages on this one !

Galatasaray join Rangers in tracking Lyle Taylor after Charlton's top scorer | Daily Mail Online
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #26
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27
Skybluefaz said:
Turns out 3 Charlton players are unwilling to play
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Yes one of the others is Chris Solly who’s been there since 2009 and even had a testimonial. He has refused to play for the same reason. Just Taylor is an important player and he’s not...
 
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