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dongonzalos · Dec 30, 2013

There are, however, two other bids in the offing. Little is known from one about a Saudi group, but American millionaire Preston Haskell IV has tabled a higher bid than GFH Capital and has offered to spend £10m in the January transfer window. Bates may feel, however, that he is too committed to GFH after the long drawn out negotiations.

His father, Preston Haskell III (natch) set up a successful construction company in Florida and is a minority owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars NFL team. Preston Haskell IV made his money dealing in real estate in Moscow which requires a certain toughness and initiative. Would he be a better owner of Leeds?

SkyblueBazza · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
There are, however, two other bids in the offing. Little is known from one about a Saudi group, but American millionaire Preston Haskell IV has tabled a higher bid than GFH Capital and has offered to spend £10m in the January transfer window. Bates may feel, however, that he is too committed to GFH after the long drawn out negotiations.

His father, Preston Haskell III (natch) set up a successful construction company in Florida and is a minority owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars NFL team. Preston Haskell IV made his money dealing in real estate in Moscow which requires a certain toughness and initiative. Would he be a better owner of Leeds?

Are you a year behind? Or is it me missing something? Leeds are already owned by GFH Capital...so PH4 can't outbid them. Bates is completely out of the picture at Leeds now (or so I thought).
The last I heard was that there is a consortium offer to invest quite heavily...previous owners & players have been stated by GFH as not being involved.
I'm baffled.

Grendel · Dec 30, 2013

SkyblueBazza said:
Are you a year behind? Or is it me missing something? Leeds are already owned by GFH Capital...so PH4 can't outbid them. Bates is completely out of the picture at Leeds now (or so I thought).
The last I heard was that there is a consortium offer to invest quite heavily...previous owners & players have been stated by GFH as not being involved.
I'm baffled.

He has taken a selected extract from a news article prior to take over. He does it all the time.

SkyblueBazza · Dec 30, 2013

Grendel said:
He has taken a selected extract from a news article prior to take over. He does it all the time.

That's fine...I invite him to explain its relevance.

dongonzalos · Dec 30, 2013

SkyblueBazza said:
Are you a year behind? Or is it me missing something? Leeds are already owned by GFH Capital...so PH4 can't outbid them. Bates is completely out of the picture at Leeds now (or so I thought).
The last I heard was that there is a consortium offer to invest quite heavily...previous owners & players have been stated by GFH as not being involved.
I'm baffled.

Just how the idea that Mr Haskell could not have afforded us.
doesn't really add up.

When all the info suggests that he has 150 million plus wealth.

Think it is more likely that SISU over bid for their own debt, a widely accepted opinion on here, bar a couple of the usual fantasists as usual.

Also all I can seem to find on Leeds was he put in a higher bid but he was too late to the party. So again nothing to suggest he did not have the money.

Also can I question what role did did Brendan Guilfoyle play in regards to Mr Haskells bid for Leeds?

covmark · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Just how the idea that Mr Haskell could not have afforded us.
doesn't really add up.

When all the info suggests that he has 150 million plus wealth.

Think it is more likely that SISU over bid for their own debt, a widely accepted opinion on here, bar a couple of the usual fantasists as usual.

Also all I can seem to find on Leeds was he put in a higher bid but he was too late to the party. So again nothing to suggest he did not have the money.

Also can I question what role did did Brendan Guilfoyle play in regards to Mr Haskells bid for Leeds?

really??? Who gives a shit.

Grendel · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Just how the idea that Mr Haskell could not have afforded us.
doesn't really add up.

When all the info suggests that he has 150 million plus wealth.

Think it is more likely that SISU over bid for their own debt, a widely accepted opinion on here, bar a couple of the usual fantasists as usual.

Also all I can seem to find on Leeds was he put in a higher bid but he was too late to the party. So again nothing to suggest he did not have the money.

Also can I question what role did did Brendan Guilfoyle play in regards to Mr Haskells bid for Leeds?

Ah bless.

dongonzalos · Dec 30, 2013

covmark said:
really??? Who gives a shit.

Rfc

He said the four people wanting to buy CCFC wanted to buy the Ricoh but the council would not sell.

I pointed out Haskell felt he could make money by owning CCFC and half of ACL.

He and a few others say Haskell did not have the money for this or Leeds

letsallsingtogether · Dec 30, 2013

you are correct funny how the ones who have been proved wrong or have no proof of there stanc then come out with replies like

Oh Bless and who gives a shit.

Shame would have liked to have seen there side of the argument.

Well done 1-0 to you Dongonzalos :claping hands:

dongonzalos said:
Rfc

He said the four people wanting to buy CCFC wanted to buy the Ricoh but the council would not sell.

I pointed out Haskell felt he could make money by owning CCFC and half of ACL.

He and a few others say Haskell did not have the money for this or Leeds

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Rfc

He said the four people wanting to buy CCFC wanted to buy the Ricoh but the council would not sell.

I pointed out Haskell felt he could make money by owning CCFC and half of ACL.

He and a few others say Haskell did not have the money for this or Leeds

Doesn't fit their agenda

dongonzalos · Dec 30, 2013

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Doesn't fit their agenda

Ah bless.....

covmark · Dec 30, 2013

letsallsingtogether said:
you are correct funny how the ones who have been proved wrong or have no proof of there stanc then come out with replies like

Oh Bless and who gives a shit.

Shame would have liked to have seen there side of the argument.

Well done 1-0 to you Dongonzalos :claping hands:

proved wrong? What are you on about?
Seriously who gives a toss about Haskell? Where is he and his band of not so merry men?
I don't have an argument regarding Haskell to be proved wrong about, because he's a nonentity. Therefore stop wittering on about crap.

Grendel · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Just how the idea that Mr Haskell could not have afforded us.
doesn't really add up.

When all the info suggests that he has 150 million plus wealth.

Think it is more likely that SISU over bid for their own debt, a widely accepted opinion on here, bar a couple of the usual fantasists as usual.

Also all I can seem to find on Leeds was he put in a higher bid but he was too late to the party. So again nothing to suggest he did not have the money.

Also can I question what role did did Brendan Guilfoyle play in regards to Mr Haskells bid for Leeds?

covmark said:
proved wrong? What are you on about?
Seriously who gives a toss about Haskell? Where is he and his band of not so merry men?
I don't have an argument regarding Haskell to be proved wrong about, because he's a nonentity. Therefore stop wittering on about crap.

Remember don actually believed Andy thorn was a decent manager. Every forum has one.

cloughie · Dec 30, 2013

Grendel said:
Remember don actually believed Andy thorn was a decent manager. Every forum has one.

and you are it claim your prize from Nick

Hobo · Dec 30, 2013

The problem with the above comments true or not is:
We are still owned by SISU
We are playing in Northampton
There is no sign of us returning to the Ricoh
There is no sign of us being able to purchase suitable land in the Coventry area.

dongonzalos · Dec 30, 2013

covmark said:
proved wrong? What are you on about?
Seriously who gives a toss about Haskell? Where is he and his band of not so merry men?
I don't have an argument regarding Haskell to be proved wrong about, because he's a nonentity. Therefore stop wittering on about crap.

Unfortunately you are an annoying distraction somehow putting yourself in the middle of a debate that you call pointless.

skybluetony176 · Dec 30, 2013

Grendel said:
Remember don actually believed Andy thorn was a decent manager. Every forum has one.

Ahh bless, a smear campaign. the equivalent of saying look over there then running away as you don't have an argument to prove what ever the point is that you're failing to make.

dongonzalos · Dec 30, 2013

Grendel said:
Remember don actually believed Andy thorn was a decent manager. Every forum has one.

Sorry Grendel I think I have missed your answer of what was Mr Guilfoyle's role with Mr Haskell's bid for Leeds? Seeing as you favour trotting out how Mr Haskell could never had afforded us in the first place?

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Dec 30, 2013

skybluetony176 said:
Ahh bless, a smear campaign. the equivalent of saying look over there then running away as you don't have an argument to prove what ever the point is that you're failing to make.

All of them

covmark · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Unfortunately you are an annoying distraction somehow putting yourself in the middle of a debate that you call pointless.

Glad to be of service

SkyblueBazza · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Just how the idea that Mr Haskell could not have afforded us.
doesn't really add up.

When all the info suggests that he has 150 million plus wealth.

Think it is more likely that SISU over bid for their own debt, a widely accepted opinion on here, bar a couple of the usual fantasists as usual.

Also all I can seem to find on Leeds was he put in a higher bid but he was too late to the party. So again nothing to suggest he did not have the money.

Also can I question what role did did Brendan Guilfoyle play in regards to Mr Haskells bid for Leeds?

As long as you don't ask me. I have absolutely no idea.

SkyblueBazza · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Ah bless.....

Aha! So you are one of them!?

dongonzalos · Dec 30, 2013

SkyblueBazza said:
As long as you don't ask me. I have absolutely no idea.

Fortunately you have not been dismissing Haskell suggesting he could not afford Leeds or Coventry or using Mr Guilfoyle as the reason why this is fact.

SkyblueBazza · Dec 30, 2013

Hobo said:
The problem with the above comments true or not is:
We are still owned by SISU
We are playing in Northampton
There is no sign of us returning to the Ricoh
There is no sign of us being able to purchase suitable land in the Coventry area.

What..? Are you mad? Everyone else seems to be looking backwards & scoring points, & arguing about what might have been, or could have been...& you come along with all this actual factual as it is stuff?!
What planet are you from? ;-)

stupot07 · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Just how the idea that Mr Haskell could not have afforded us.
doesn't really add up.

When all the info suggests that he has 150 million plus wealth.

Think it is more likely that SISU over bid for their own debt, a widely accepted opinion on here, bar a couple of the usual fantasists as usual.

Also all I can seem to find on Leeds was he put in a higher bid but he was too late to the party. So again nothing to suggest he did not have the money.

Also can I question what role did did Brendan Guilfoyle play in regards to Mr Haskells bid for Leeds?

Fantasists? It was on the radio, we haven't made it up.

I have no idea what his role was with Leeds but he did investigate directors.

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stupot07 · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Fortunately you have not been dismissing Haskell suggesting he could not afford Leeds or Coventry or using Mr Guilfoyle as the reason why this is fact.

No one has said it is fact, merely pointing out an alternative view from someone with inside knowledge.

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stupot07 · Dec 30, 2013

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Doesn't fit their agenda

What agenda's that then?

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stupot07 · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
Rfc

He said the four people wanting to buy CCFC wanted to buy the Ricoh but the council would not sell.

I pointed out Haskell felt he could make money by owning CCFC and half of ACL.

He and a few others say Haskell did not have the money for this or Leeds

Please tell me how he could make money out of half of ACL and ccfc?

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Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Dec 30, 2013

stupot07 said:
No one has said it is fact, merely pointing out an alternative view from someone with inside knowledge.

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Yes an Administrator a great source,after all we all know about Administrators dont we?

stupot07 · Dec 30, 2013

To be honest, he's got that much cash and 1/2 of ACL is that much of a gold mine I'm surprised he's not just bought half of ACL anyway.

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dongonzalos · Dec 30, 2013

stupot07 said:
Fantasists? It was on the radio, we haven't made it up.

I have no idea what his role was with Leeds but he did investigate directors.

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So he played no role in either take over.
Yet he is quoted as the reason why it is fact that Mr Haskell could not afford us or Leeds.

Yet we then ignore all the other sources that suggest he has more than a 150 million fortune.
That fits.....

stupot07 · Dec 30, 2013

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Yes an Administrator a great source,after all we all know about Administrators dont we?

Whereas newspapers always print 100% fact.

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stupot07 · Dec 30, 2013

dongonzalos said:
So he played no role in either take over.
Yet he is quoted as the reason why it is fact that Mr Haskell could not afford us or Leeds.

Yet we then ignore all the other sources that suggest he has more than a 150 million fortune.
That fits.....

My bad, actually he did, he was joint administrator for Leeds.

On 19 March, 2004, Garry Wilson and Alan Bloom, both Partners in Ernst & Young LLP, and Brendan Guilfoyle of The P&A Partnership were appointed as joint adminstrators of Leeds United plc and Leeds United Holdings Limited, a subsidiary company.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2004/mar/19/newsstory.sport12

But hey ho, obviously knows nothing about it.

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Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Dec 30, 2013

stupot07 said:
Whereas newspapers always print 100% fact.

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Depends what Newspaper what journalist and I do hope you are not suggesting that I am saying that anybody is lying,nothing could be further from the truth,if you are I resent that.

dongonzalos · Dec 30, 2013

stupot07 said:
Please tell me how he could make money out of half of ACL and ccfc?

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Think you would need to ask him that one.

The fact that that was what his plan was says he felt he could.

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