There are often allegations that acl/sisu are lying and then the usual suspects come on defending the party they support, often by throwing in lots more information and making things very complicated.
But will we see in the next few weeks two very clear cut concrete things, rather than just talk, that will determine the honesty of acl-sisu?
First, it has been stated very clearly that acl can survive without ccfc. But the last set of accounts was the first time acl had made a profit net of football income. Either the forthcoming set of accounts will show another profit net of football income or they won’t. If it’s the latter, the claim that acl can survive without football income will look very questionable and some might question the honesty of that claim.
Second, when Fisher announced on 18 May that a new ground would be built he stated that "we retained stadium specialists some months ago to advise us on suitable sites for a permanent club stadium in the local Coventry area”. That suggests that stadium specialists were retained at the latest by Feb 2013. Like the acl accounts, the new ground is a clear cut issue: either it will be built or statements made by Seppala, Fisher and Labovitch will prove to have been untrue. If a full year after retaining stadium specialists a site has not been identified, is that a point at which the building of a new ground will look very questionable and some might question the honesty of that claim?
So before the pro/anti acl/sisu people try and complicate things or dismiss this as nonsense, if the above is wrong can they suggest other concrete examples where truth and lies can be established in a factual, clear cut way not the usual tit for tat claims and counter claims?
There are often allegations that acl/sisu are lying and then the usual suspects come on defending the party they support, often by throwing in lots more information and making things very complicated.
But will we see in the next few weeks two very clear cut concrete things, rather than just talk, that will determine the honesty of acl-sisu?
First, it has been stated very clearly that acl can survive without ccfc. But the last set of accounts was the first time acl had made a profit net of football income. Either the forthcoming set of accounts will show another profit net of football income or they won’t. If it’s the latter, the claim that acl can survive without football income will look very questionable and some might question the honesty of that claim.
Second, when Fisher announced on 18 May that a new ground would be built he stated that "we retained stadium specialists some months ago to advise us on suitable sites for a permanent club stadium in the local Coventry area”. That suggests that stadium specialists were retained at the latest by Feb 2013. Like the acl accounts, the new ground is a clear cut issue: either it will be built or statements made by Seppala, Fisher and Labovitch will prove to have been untrue. If a full year after retaining stadium specialists a site has not been identified, is that a point at which the building of a new ground will look very questionable and some might question the honesty of that claim?
So before the pro/anti acl/sisu people try and complicate things or dismiss this as nonsense, if the above is wrong can they suggest other concrete examples where truth and lies can be established in a factual, clear cut way not the usual tit for tat claims and counter claims?
There are often allegations that acl/sisu are lying and then the usual suspects come on defending the party they support, often by throwing in lots more information and making things very complicated.
But will we see in the next few weeks two very clear cut concrete things, rather than just talk, that will determine the honesty of acl-sisu?
First, it has been stated very clearly that acl can survive without ccfc. But the last set of accounts was the first time acl had made a profit net of football income. Either the forthcoming set of accounts will show another profit net of football income or they won’t. If it’s the latter, the claim that acl can survive without football income will look very questionable and some might question the honesty of that claim.
Second, when Fisher announced on 18 May that a new ground would be built he stated that "we retained stadium specialists some months ago to advise us on suitable sites for a permanent club stadium in the local Coventry area”. That suggests that stadium specialists were retained at the latest by Feb 2013. Like the acl accounts, the new ground is a clear cut issue: either it will be built or statements made by Seppala, Fisher and Labovitch will prove to have been untrue. If a full year after retaining stadium specialists a site has not been identified, is that a point at which the building of a new ground will look very questionable and some might question the honesty of that claim?
So before the pro/anti acl/sisu people try and complicate things or dismiss this as nonsense, if the above is wrong can they suggest other concrete examples where truth and lies can be established in a factual, clear cut way not the usual tit for tat claims and counter claims?
To me it's crystal clear (although the majority on this site can't see the wood from the trees, IMHO!), we need to own our own ground (either club or owners) and since the council have no intention of selling the Ricoh to SISU (or anyone else for that matter) the only way forward is to build a new ground.
PUSB!
To me it's crystal clear (although the majority on this site can't see the wood from the trees, IMHO!), we need to own our own ground (either club or owners) and since the council have no intention of selling the Ricoh to SISU (or anyone else for that matter) the only way forward is to build a new ground.
PUSB!
There are often allegations that acl/sisu are lying and then the usual suspects come on defending the party they support, often by throwing in lots more information and making things very complicated.
But will we see in the next few weeks two very clear cut concrete things, rather than just talk, that will determine the honesty of acl-sisu?
First, it has been stated very clearly that acl can survive without ccfc. But the last set of accounts was the first time acl had made a profit net of football income. Either the forthcoming set of accounts will show another profit net of football income or they won’t. If it’s the latter, the claim that acl can survive without football income will look very questionable and some might question the honesty of that claim.
Second, when Fisher announced on 18 May that a new ground would be built he stated that "we retained stadium specialists some months ago to advise us on suitable sites for a permanent club stadium in the local Coventry area”. That suggests that stadium specialists were retained at the latest by Feb 2013. Like the acl accounts, the new ground is a clear cut issue: either it will be built or statements made by Seppala, Fisher and Labovitch will prove to have been untrue. If a full year after retaining stadium specialists a site has not been identified, is that a point at which the building of a new ground will look very questionable and some might question the honesty of that claim?
So before the pro/anti acl/sisu people try and complicate things or dismiss this as nonsense, if the above is wrong can they suggest other concrete examples where truth and lies can be established in a factual, clear cut way not the usual tit for tat claims and counter claims?
wrong. we need the leasehold. there is no further benefit to the club in owning the free hold, this only benefits SISU.
Sorry but whoever the owners are they are all only interested in owning the stadium (that includes at least four other parties who wanted to buy the club on 'that condition', however CCC refused to discuss with any of them).
Investors in any club have to benefit, after all they must make a return on their investment, it's not rocket science, is it?????????
ACL's survival won't depend on one set of accounts either way.
There has never been a stadium in history that has survived with no permenant tenant. Did they get the Olympics as they had a permenant tenant and did they fail to get the rugby World Cup due to the unrest at the time of bidding. Many "normal" grounds have hosted more big concerts than the Ricoh. Leicester have approval now to host major events.
As I have said before I wish ACL well - history suggests they will fail - I hope and prey for the well being of Coventry taxpayers they can rewrite history.
ACL's survival won't depend on one set of accounts either way.
There has never been a stadium in history that has survived with no permenant tenant. Did they get the Olympics as they had a permenant tenant and did they fail to get the rugby World Cup due to the unrest at the time of bidding. Many "normal" grounds have hosted more big concerts than the Ricoh. Leicester have approval now to host major events.
As I have said before I wish ACL well - history suggests they will fail - I hope and prey for the well being of Coventry taxpayers they can rewrite history.
I know of thirty that only wanted the lease can I prove it? I dont have to just like you saying that there were four that wanted to buy it.Sorry but whoever the owners are they are all only interested in owning the stadium (that includes at least four other parties who wanted to buy the club on 'that condition', however CCC refused to discuss with any of them).
Investors in any club have to benefit, after all they must make a return on their investment, it's not rocket science, is it?????????
I know of thirty that only wanted the lease can I prove it? I dont have to just like you saying that there were four that wanted to buy it.
If he can name the four you'd better be able to name the 30.
Of course you dontOnce again sorry but I don't need to prove anything! I know what I know and am only stating fact, if you don't want to believe it fine by me.
History and future developments will prove I'm right.
Fact 31/5/2012 no accounts filed
Coventry city Ltd
Coventry City Holdings
Otium.
In fact Otium were being liquidated with zero assets.
After six years in charge at Coventry SISU have never made an offer to buy the Rico or part of it. Yet the Alan Higgs Trust have wanted to sell their share from day one.
We were in the Championship we are now mid table in League 1 (even with 10 points back we are nowhere near the top 3 sides in this league).
ACL have shifted and have reduced rent etc.
We play in Northampton. We have a picture of a new stadium that looks like a toilet seat with some Harpic squirted under the rim.
We have debts between 30-60 million to our owners and their subsidiaries accumulated during the last 6 years of slide, if you believe them?
Fact I am one pissed off supporter who has travelled all over the country following my team.
Fact I will not go to Sixfields under any circumstances.
ACL's survival won't depend on one set of accounts either way.
There has never been a stadium in history that has survived with no permenant tenant. Did they get the Olympics as they had a permenant tenant and did they fail to get the rugby World Cup due to the unrest at the time of bidding. Many "normal" grounds have hosted more big concerts than the Ricoh. Leicester have approval now to host major events.
As I have said before I wish ACL well - history suggests they will fail - I hope and prey for the well being of Coventry taxpayers they can rewrite history.
Of course you dont
Of course you are
AND this club is close to being history.
White City's slightly disengenuous though, as they moved heaven and earth to get a regular tenant. Bought themselves a Rugby League team... that failed, tried to get QPR there... ended up with speedway and greyhound racing; got decent crowds for greyhound racing, they kept it going.
If the Ricoh can become a major Greyhound venue, it may have a chance...
Should it become history as you put it, it'll be because people haven't supported Steven & the Team at Sixfields (as I do), regardless of club ownership.
Pity the majority don't look at the much bigger picture and the other parties involved and some of the political manipulation, not just the owners involved then?
Should it become history as you put it, it'll be because people haven't supported Steven & the Team at Sixfields (as I do), regardless of club ownership.
Pity the majority don't look at the much bigger picture and the other parties involved and some of the political manipulation, not just the owners involved then?
I think you have a severe problem, I'm discussing (posting) about one aspect and don't have the slightest intention of slagging-off anyone of the parties (who ALL must share responsibility for our current situation, including previous owners).
If you choose not to go to Sixfields fine (won't lose any sleep about it) but you're the one missing out, enjoyed this afternoon and we deserved to win but hey-ho, not the end of the world.
A Very Happy New Year to ALL who support the Sky Blues.
Here we go its not the nice benevolent owners fault its the fans that dont go fault:claping hands:
Please don't try and intimidate and miss quote me, once again I'm not on anyone's side (other than Steven Pressley & the TEAM).
We have to move-on, onwards & upwards as far as I'm concerned. PUSB!
The only severe problems I have is SISU owning our club.
I won't lose any sleep over you going to Sixfields either, I have always said it is individual choice.
I am not the only one missing out. A draw was a point gained, I predicted we would lose 1-0. I'm not all doom and gloom I predicted we would beat Peterborough.
No it is not the end of the world it is one game in a long season. We can still make the play offs, getting tough but do able with another month like November.
A very happy New Year to you RFC and all our other fans regardless of where you seat the blame of our clubs demise.
Please don't try and intimidate and miss quote me, once again I'm not on anyone's side (other than Steven Pressley & the TEAM).
We have to move-on, onwards & upwards as far as I'm concerned. PUSB!
I support the team you support the regime.
Move on to where? as for upwards that has not happened under your beloved owners yet.
We are still waiting for that one.
Sorry but you're talking nonsense, we're not in a position to choose so very many things include who owns the club. You are somewhat miss guided because I don't ever recall supporting an owner of our football club (except maybe one & even he had 'baggage') and that's almost 60 years!
Sorry but you're talking nonsense, we're not in a position to choose so very many things include who owns the club. You are somewhat miss guided because I don't ever recall supporting an owner of our football club (except maybe one & even he had 'baggage') and that's almost 60 years!
I thought mr Haskell wanted to buy the club and the Higgs share of ACL?
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