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Nick

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #1
If Panzo can play there as backup, assuming Bidwell will be first choice?

Jake Bidwell - Player profile 24/25

Jake Bidwell, 32, from England ➤ Coventry City, since 2021 ➤ Left-Back ➤ Market value: €1.20m ➤ * Mar 21, 1993 in Southport, England
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He has played thousands of minutes in the Championship as a LB and LWB. With a full pre-season behind him I doubt Robins is going to see him as a reserve player on a decent wage.
 
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Russell Slade

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #2
Hasn't Doyle played LB/LWB a fair bit too? Gives three options for LWB and LCB positions
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #3
Russell Slade said:
Hasn't Doyle played LB/LWB a fair bit too? Gives three options for LWB and LCB positions
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Doyle’s played LB 5 times 4 for Man City U23s, and once in the EFL cup for Sunderland.

Panzo has played there 30 times all at youth level.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #4
Still think I'd prefer a specialist LWB seeing as how reliant we are on WB's to play.

As things stand if a LWB was our last signing and we lost none of our big players I'd be happy with our dealings this summer.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #5
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Still think I'd prefer a specialist LWB seeing as how reliant we are on WB's to play.

As things stand if a LWB was our last signing and we lost none of our big players I'd be happy with our dealings this summer.
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I agree, if we get that LWB, then I could see a play off push
 

Nick

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #6
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Still think I'd prefer a specialist LWB seeing as how reliant we are on WB's to play.
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How do you class a specialist though?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #7
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I agree, if we get that LWB, then I could see a play off push
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Don't want to get myself over-excited, but if so we should have a squad that, all being well, should be capable of challenging.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #8
Nick said:
How do you class a specialist though?
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Someone who plays there as their preferred position. Doyle and Panzo seem like CB's who can play there if required.

Bidwell mat well come good but another option to both push him or in case of injuries.
 
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long way home

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  • Jul 13, 2022
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I can see the lad from Palace getting a call
 

no_loyalty

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #10
long way home said:
I can see the lad from Palace getting a call
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Some on here won’t like that suggestion, as he hasn’t played any mens football yet.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #11
Panzo can play left back, but has never played wing back.

I don't see him playing there much unless there's an injury crisis or something
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #12
Bidwell and Kane joined in January which is a difficult time to join a club mid season. You dont have the benefit of a pre season bonding and gelling through friendlies.

Everyone expects players to hit the ground running but they often have lots of relocation and family stuff to sort out.

I thought Kane and Bidwell did okay. But I think they will be even better this season and both bring a lot of experience to the side.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 13, 2022
  • #13
I can't understand why there is any doubt that Bidwell will be lwb. He was one of our best players towards the end of the season. He started slowly for sure but is an experienced and successful wing back.

I'd still like McCallum back though if ever that was possible.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 14, 2022
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Hobo said:
Bidwell and Kane joined in January which is a difficult time to join a club mid season. You dont have the benefit of a pre season bonding and gelling through friendlies.

Everyone expects players to hit the ground running but they often have lots of relocation and family stuff to sort out.

I thought Kane and Bidwell did okay. But I think they will be even better this season and both bring a lot of experience to the side.
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Kane joined in August.
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #15
I like Bidwell but we need another, we can’t go the whole season with one LWB. I think Adaramola would be a good addition.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #16
Emmanuel Longelo from West Ham would be good


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The Philosopher

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #17
I think Bidwell will be the first starter with the notion of Panzo coming in off the bench to use pace and a bit of trickery against tired legs.

That all said, I can’t help but think that JCS and Maatsen we’re good players and we haven’t improved on them last season to this.

Fadz is a year older.

Still think we need a couple of big strong players. One at the back (maybe Doyle but I think we need someone with experience) and a stand in big striker for Gyok (we still have no tall striker for set plays and in play crosses except for Vic).
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 14, 2022
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The Philosopher said:
I think Bidwell will be the first starter with the notion of Panzo coming in off the bench to use pace and a bit of trickery against tired legs.

That all said, I can’t help but think that JCS and Maatsen we’re good players and we haven’t improved on them last season to this.

Fadz is a year older.

Still think we need a couple of big strong players. One at the back (maybe Doyle but I think we need someone with experience) and a stand in big striker for Gyok (we still have no tall striker for set plays and in play crosses except for Vic).
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What’s your obsession with tall strikers?
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #19
We dont need muscle, what we need is more pace, it was something lacking last season now we have Panzo at LCB that adds a lot, and we have Tavares very much in the mix this season, and if we get a quick LWB than I wont be 100% satisfied but it would be massive steps toward
 

sylus

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #20
Bidwell as LWB as cover only, maybe mccallum back, would be nice
 

WGABSOOS

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #21
procdoc said:
What’s your obsession with tall strikers?
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He wants us to bring Kevin Francis out of retirement
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #22
procdoc said:
What’s your obsession with tall strikers?
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It's worth revisiting our injury time goals last season... They were not scored through 'sticking it in the mixer'.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jul 14, 2022
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I think Bidwell, Panzo and Doyle gives us options on the left all three could play lb, lcb, by the sounds of Doyle & Panzo both comfortable with the ball at their feet, can pass good height, gives Robins options left side. Think and hope our next signing I suppose probably a loan is a centre-back in the McFadz mould be happy with our defence options then,
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 14, 2022
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There'd be no point to Bidwell being here if he wasn't starting out as first choice.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #25
The Philosopher said:
a stand in big striker for Gyok (we still have no tall striker for set plays and in play crosses except for Vic).
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Gyokeres isn’t good in the air, can’t remember him scoring a header. So how would this mythical player be a like for like replacement?
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #26
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Gyokeres isn’t good in the air, can’t remember him scoring a header. So how would this mythical player be a like for like replacement?
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Blackpool away (Wasn't in the air as such though)
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #27
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Gyokeres isn’t good in the air, can’t remember him scoring a header. So how would this mythical player be a like for like replacement?
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Blackburn home
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #28
There are one or two then! The Blackpool one hit him in the face iirc , the point still stands a player like Kyle Hudlin as he has been getting at all summer would not be a like for like replacement

Gyokeres simply isn’t just a “big striker”
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Jul 14, 2022
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SlowerThanPlatt said:
There are one or two then! The Blackpool one hit him in the face iirc , the point still stands a player like Kyle Hudlin as he has been getting at all summer would not be a like for like replacement

Gyokeres simply isn’t just a “big striker”
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Let me put this another way, for the hard of thinking like yourself:

Who have we got that can get on the end of a high cross from open play (that means not CD’s from corners and free kicks)?

Go…
 

The Philosopher

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #30
procdoc said:
What’s your obsession with tall strikers?
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Dion Dublin.

Tell me I’m wrong.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 14, 2022
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The Philosopher said:
Let me put this another way, for the hard of thinking like yourself:

Who have we got that can get on the end of a high cross from open play (that means not CD’s from corners and free kicks)?

Go…
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How many times do we lump a high cross in? How effect is that as a tactic when you play possession football when ability on the ball is much more important? How many players with pace to scare defenders and get onto throughballs (which we're much more likely to try) do we have?

You need a range of strikers to offer different problems. The 'big' man, the nippy little striker, the penalty box poacher, the workhorse. And at this moment I think we have, to a certain extent, got that. Big man - Gyok, nippy - Tavares, poacher - Godden, Walker workhorse - Waghorn
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #32
shmmeee said:
Kane joined in August.
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Very good point well made
 

The Philosopher

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #33
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
How many times do we lump a high cross in? How effect is that as a tactic when you play possession football when ability on the ball is much more important? How many players with pace to scare defenders and get onto throughballs (which we're much more likely to try) do we have?

You need a range of strikers to offer different problems. The 'big' man, the nippy little striker, the penalty box poacher, the workhorse. And at this moment I think we have, to a certain extent, got that. Big man - Gyok, nippy - Tavares, poacher - Godden, Walker workhorse - Waghorn
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We have a variety of players that can play poacher or pressing striker / workhorse / nippy striker.

I think we lack a stand in target man.

There’s little point in having players like Gus who can deliver a quality ball high if we can’t nod the odd one in.

We have onrushing midfield of Gus, O’Hare and Allen who are never going to jump high but could easily run in to a nod-down.

In our most successful times we had Cyrille, then Dublin. Times change, I get it but my mere suggestion that we get a back up target man gets ridiculed to the extent that it gets boring.
 

The Philosopher

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #34
The Philosopher said:
We have a variety of players that can play poacher or pressing striker / workhorse / nippy striker.

I think we lack a stand in target man.

There’s little point in having players like Gus who can deliver a quality ball high if we can’t nod the odd one in.

We have onrushing midfield of Gus, O’Hare and Allen who are never going to jump high but could easily run in to a nod-down.

In our most successful times we had Cyrille, then Dublin. Times change, I get it but my mere suggestion that we get a back up target man gets ridiculed to the extent that it gets boring.
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The alternative is that we get Godden to grow his quiff and superglue it firm for match days.
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 14, 2022
  • #35
Godden is surprisingly good in the air for his height.
 
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