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OldBedrocker

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #36
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He wasn’t as good either
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In your opinion. I disagree.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #37
OldBedrocker said:
In your opinion. I disagree.
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I think you'll be in a very small minority but go for it
 
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Hobo

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #38
In my opinion Hamer is the pick of the crop. Today has nothing to do with it.

Sheaf is improving all the time.

Gyokeres scores goals but has loads of areas that need improvement to get him to next level.

O'Hare is very good at this level, but over rated by a lot of our fans.

Palmer works hard but still needs to improve on fitness levels. He should not be compared to O'Hare they offer different things. But still underated by many of our fans.
 
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rob9872

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #39
Wilson Fadz and Hamer were stand out. Surprised to see low ratings for Vik who worked hard and was kicked all over won the pen. 3 defefenders all booked for kicking him and arguably should have been more.
 
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TomS91

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #40
McNally or McFadzean my MOTM.
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #41
Wilson - 7. Couple excellent saves…and at least one great take by in the air
Eccles - 6. Worked hard. Out of position a number of times first half
Mcnally - 7. Good solid performance
McFadz - 8 great to have him back…his organisation of those around him is what we have missed.
Doyle -7. Early on looked vulnerable but put himself about second half. Some very impt tackles and blocks.
Esbrand - 6.5. Worried in first 20mins about his lack of strength and positioning. Grew into game. As his confidence increased so did his performance. Second was a yellow but not convinced (till I see replay) that the first was.
Hamer - 8.5. Best he has played for a while. Kept the midfield ticking over really well. And still disciplined (only just)
Allen - 6.5. Again worked well supporting those around him.
Palmer -8 he looked good with 2 ahead of him. Not everything came off but he is so impt whilst O’Hare out.
Vik - 7. Unplayable when he gets a head of steam. Got to learn when to stretch defenders and when to release teammates
Godden - 7. A good foil for Vik. Some good movement and short passes

Norton-cuffey….did well when he came on. Best I’ve seen him play
Bidwell…did his usual solid stuff. V surprised player wasn’t at least booked when he bought Bidwell down

Ref and Lino’s. 5: No consistency…let players get away with shirt tugging throughout, and allowed some bad tackles go unpunished, made some players take dead balls where they were told others just took from where they wanted.


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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #42
Hobo said:
In my opinion Hamer is the pick of the crop. Today has nothing to do with it.

Sheaf is improving all the time.

Gyokeres scores goals but has loads of areas that need improvement to get him to next level.

O'Hare is very good at this level, but over rated by a lot of our fans.

Palmer works hard but still needs to improve on fitness levels. He should not be compared to O'Hare they offer different things. But still underated by many of our fans.
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Last 10 he was excellent at setting up attacks with ten men
 

chinamans view

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #43
Hamer player of the match, Godden worst player on our side.
 
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Hoofhearted

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #44
chinamans view said:
Hamer player of the match, Godden worst player on our side.
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Not a chance was Godden our worst player. Must have been watching a different game to me!

Eccles and JWE looked poor compared to the Luton wing backs, but did improve second half. Fadz and McNally were quality, Hamer raised his game considerably to compensate for Sheaf not being there.

Wilson made important saves and also commanded his area well. Luton's defence looked frightened of Gyok even tho he wasn't at his best. Palmer looked useful in patches but he does flit in and out of games sometimes.

Ref absolutely shocking, how he saw JWE as a double bookable I'll never know.
 
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EalingSB

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #45
Grendel said:
Hamer and Mcfazdean were by a country mile our best players
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Think you have to add Wilson into this. One world-class save (although I haven’t seen a replay), looked solid and a few decent takes in the air. Couple of Oggy-style kicks straight into touch but can forgive these.
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #46
chinamans view said:
Hamer player of the match, Godden worst player on our side.
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #47
chinamans view said:
Hamer player of the match, Godden worst player on our side.
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CovBrummie94

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #48
Wilson 7 - one class save and even claimed a few crosses
Eccles 6 - not a WB but did well enough
McNally 7 - quality in the tackle and good on the ball
Fadz 8 - leader
Doyle 7 - dealt well with Luton’s number 11
JWE 5 - looks very raw but some glimpses of a player going forward. Giving away the throw in for the opening goal was poor.
Hamer 9 - when he plays like that he’s a level above
Allen 6 - busy as always
Palmer 7 - put himself about well and tries the killer pass every time which I like. Great effort off the bar.
Godden 7 - pretty anonymous but scores the pen and his ball won the pen
Gyokores 8 - got nothing from the ref. Roughed up all game by their defence who were terrified of him

Cuffy 6 - better than previous games
Walker 5 - anonymous
Bidwell N/A


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Hoofhearted

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #49
CovBrummie94 said:
Wilson 7 - one class save and even claimed a few crosses
Eccles 6 - not a WB but did well enough
McNally 7 - quality in the tackle and good on the ball
Fadz 8 - leader
Rose 7 - dealt well with Luton’s number 11
JWE 5 - looks very raw but some glimpses of a player going forward. Giving away the throw in for the opening goal was poor.
Hamer 9 - when he plays like that he’s a level above
Allen 6 - busy as always
Palmer 7 - put himself about well and tries the killer pass every time which I like. Great effort off the bar.
Godden 7 - pretty anonymous but scores the pen and his ball won the pen
Gyokores 8 - got nothing from the ref. Roughed up all game by their defence who were terrified of him

Cuffy 6 - better than previous games
Walker 5 - anonymous
Bidwell N/A


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Agree with 99% of that but it was Doyle not Rose
 
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CovBrummie94

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  • Feb 11, 2023
  • #50
Hoofhearted said:
Agree with 99% of that but it was Doyle not Rose
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Of course it was. Been a long day.


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Pusb1

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #51
generous ratings for Doyle. thought he was trash and outmuscled and out of position many a time.







allen- trash







Fadz rusty but good to have him back. In the 2nd half Hamer played well. JWE looked bright
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #52
Wilson - 7
NcNally - 7
Fadz - 7
Doyle - 7
Eccles - 6
Hamer - 8
Allen - 6
JWE - 6
Palmer - 7
Vik - 6
Godden - 7

BNC - 7
Walker - 6
Bidwell - 6
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #53
slowpoke said:
I think 1-1 was a fair result, again lady luck deserted us losing Sheaf as we did and then that early goal which I put down to the Sheaf issue, took a while but I thought once we gained a bit of control we were the most likely team to win the game until the sending off.
Biggest plus point was Hamer in a slightly different role I thought he was excellent here, there and everywhere. Looks like Sheaf could be out for a bit so maybe Hamer will play that role again.
Wouldn’t criticise our defence too much take that first minute away it’s another clean sheet.
Wilson annoyed his knockers on here again with a solid performance in goal accompanied with two outstanding saves.
Reffing standard just not good enough the inconsistency throughout the match was a joke. If that’s the standard one division below the premier god help us and refereeing.
Having said that I thought the sending off was correct very unlucky because it wasn’t a deliberate foul but was a yellow card I thought, milked a bit by Luton but I think we’d have done the same.
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #54
Wilson 7 - one excellent save and generally secure
Eccles 6 - ok but needs some match time
McNally 6 - started poorly but got better
McFadzean 7 - we have really missed his presence
Doyle 5 - inconsistent
JWE 6 - some useful contributions, looks skillful but needs to learn how to tackle. Unlucky with the sending off.
Hamer 8 - as usual motm
Allen 5 - ran around
Palmer 7 - some good some poor but makes things happen
Gyokeres 6 - shadow of the player we had before Christmas and desperately needs a goal. His confidence has gone. Looks some way from a Premier league player at the moment.
Godden 7 - good return bearing in mind how long he has been out.

Subs:
Walker 6 - looked lively
BNC 6 - couple of good runs
Bidwell - not on long enough to judge
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #55
Deleted member 9744 said:
Wilson 7 - one excellent save and generally secure
Eccles 6 - ok but needs some match time
McNally 6 - started poorly but got better
McFadzean 7 - we have really missed his presence
Doyle 5 - inconsistent
JWE 6 - some useful contributions, looks skillful but needs to learn how to tackle. Unlucky with the sending off.
Hamer 8 - as usual motm
Allen 5 - ran around
Palmer 7 - some good some poor but makes things happen
Gyokeres 6 - shadow of the player we had before Christmas and desperately needs a goal. His confidence has gone. Looks some way from a Premier league player at the moment.
Godden 7 - good return bearing in mind how long he has been out.

Subs:
Walker 6 - looked lively
BNC 6 - couple of good runs
Bidwell - not on long enough to judge
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JWE was really poor - leaving Bidwell out was a big error of judgement for that game
 
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MAFF

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #56
Grendel said:
JWE was really poor - leaving Bidwell out was a big error of judgement for that game
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yes- i thought he was dreadful yesterday. very surprised at some of the generous ratings he's been getting on here.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #57
Grendel said:
JWE was really poor - leaving Bidwell out was a big error of judgement for that game
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Disagree. He couldn't play Bidwell after last week's performance in my view. Would give totally the wrong message to the rest of the team that that level of performance was acceptable. I thought JWE showed some promise, but his tackling was poor.

I think Robins and the team are still suffering the effects of the Wrexham result. He failed badly that day and needs to reinstil a professional mindset which was lacking that day and started from his selection. Therefore, he had to drop Bidwell.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 12, 2023
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Deleted member 9744 said:
Disagree. He couldn't play Bidwell after last week's performance in my view. Would give totally the wrong message to the rest of the team that that level of performance was acceptable. I thought JWE showed some promise, but his tackling was poor.

I think Robins and the team are still suffering the effects of the Wrexham result. He failed badly that day and needs to reinstil a professional mindset which was lacking that day and started from his selection. Therefore, he had to drop Bidwell.
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that’s nonsense. Bidwell has been consistently one of our better players - leaving him out after one bad game for a rookie defender is entirely the wrong message.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Feb 12, 2023
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Grendel said:
that’s nonsense. Bidwell has been consistently one of our better players - leaving him out after one bad game for a rookie defender is entirely the wrong message.
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Agree over the season Bidwell has been consistently strong but if you let a player get away with that type of performance it gives the wrong message. His performance against WBA was unacceptable in my view.
 

Sbarcher

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #60
Grendel said:
JWE was really poor - leaving Bidwell out was a big error of judgement for that game
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I agree. Wayward passing and bottled tackles a couple of times. Luckily, Bidwell back for Tuesday.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #61
If the rumours are true then Robins isn't overly enamoured with Bidwell at the moment so I was not surprised to see him dropped after his poor performance v WBA.
 
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  • Feb 12, 2023
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PVA said:
If the rumours are true then Robins isn't overly enamoured with Bidwell at the moment so I was not surprised to see him dropped after his poor performance v WBA.
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Yeah, it does look like a parting of the ways is on the cards. Robins does seem to be quite a with him or against him type of manager, not much room for grey!
 

stay_up_skyblues

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #63
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yeah, it does look like a parting of the ways is on the cards. Robins does seem to be quite a with him or against him type of manager, not much room for grey!
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Based on him being dropped for one game? Or has something else actually come out?

It makes complete sense that he may go with the attacking option at home when we are looking to win and the more defensive option against the best sides and away from home.

I hope we’re not getting rid, JB is one of a handful of players we have that are comfortably at this level.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #64
stay_up_skyblues said:
Based on him being dropped for one game? Or has something else actually come out?

It makes complete sense that he may go with the attacking option at home when we are looking to win and the more defensive option against the best sides and away from home.

I hope we’re not getting rid, JB is one of a handful of players we have that are comfortably at this level.
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Apparently we were going to sign Dasilva from Bristol City and Bidwell was going to Birmingham. It fell through because Bristol City couldn't sign a left back in time.
 

stupot07

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #65
PVA said:
Apparently we were going to sign Dasilva from Bristol City and Bidwell was going to Birmingham. It fell through because Bristol City couldn't sign a left back in time.
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I really hope he don't sign him. We already have O'Hare, Hamer and Allen who are under 5ft 8. We desperately need some more height and athleticism in the squad.

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Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #66
Deleted member 9744 said:
Disagree. He couldn't play Bidwell after last week's performance in my view. Would give totally the wrong message to the rest of the team that that level of performance was acceptable. I thought JWE showed some promise, but his tackling was poor.

I think Robins and the team are still suffering the effects of the Wrexham result. He failed badly that day and needs to reinstil a professional mindset which was lacking that day and started from his selection. Therefore, he had to drop Bidwell.
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He bottled fair a few tackles that were not even 50/50 one was in his favor and he still bottled it.

That's just unacceptable. He is a absolute garbage. Rather develop one of our own Burrroughs.
 
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  • Feb 12, 2023
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Londonccfcfan said:
He bottled fair a few tackles that were not even 50/50 one was in his favor and he still bottled it.

That's just unacceptable. He is a absolute garbage. Rather develop one of our own Burrroughs.
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Yes let's write him off after his first start in men's football playing in a team that is not playing flowing football at the moment. Totally fair.

Actually I thought he was impressive in parts but he did pull out of a few tackles. I like Burroughs by the way and think he will go on to be a big player for us.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #68
Every time ive seen Burroughs he has impressed so dont quite understand the 2 loanees
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 12, 2023
  • #69
stevefloyd said:
Every time ive seen Burroughs he has impressed so dont quite understand the 2 loanees
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I think the arrival of the RWB is more a nod to Dabo and at LWB we only had Bidwell.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Feb 13, 2023
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think the arrival of the RWB is more a nod to Dabo and at LWB we only had Bidwell.
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But Burroughs has done equally well at right and left, if we had brought in a slightly more experienced lwb I could understand... ahh well in Robins we trust
 
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