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  • Start date Jul 14, 2023
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #71
WestEndAgro said:
I feel another "fight club" in the offing.
Who's reffing this one?
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Shh! you know the rules!
 

Terry_dactyl

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #72
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Yeah stinks of double standards.
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I can only smell sour grapes.
 
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Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #73
Deleted member 5849 said:
What a small minded thread
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Some people choose that view. Most are quite open minded. What side do you fall on?
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #74
jim20 said:
I was saying it well before we got into the playoffs. It’s just a frustration on how the league is run. So many inconsistencies and this is another one.
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To be clear, you expected Luton to drop £10m on work to their ground in case they got promoted? Think that through.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #75
shmmeee said:
So no then.
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Well yes as the PL and both clubs have the option to reverse or postpone
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #76
Sick Boy said:
I don’t recall us getting one when the CBS wasn’t finished on time.
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we got one this season gone because our ground was not ready to playon in the first 3 games!
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #77
Warwickhunt said:
we got one this season gone because our ground was not ready to playon in the first 3 games!
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The two situations aren’t comparable; it’s more comparable to the CBS not being finished in time for the season.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #78
They’re there on merit as far as I’m concerned and the PL should be accommodating. Last thing football needs is more exclusivity where it’s placing exclusivity on reaching the top of the pyramid. If you want that watch Rugby Union.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #79
Highly doubt those having a hissy fit over Luton’s ground would be having one if we hadn’t got to the play off and lost to Luton…
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #80
Good luck to Luton, I hope they stay up, and I hope they do it at the expense of someone like Everton who've been throwing money round like confetti, going through big name managers like they're going out of fashion and achieving absolutely fuck all other than a brand of football that would put you off watching the game.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #81
Ahh its turned into a bickering thread ...again!
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #82
Tbf if you read the BBC article it says it is due to be ready on time but only just. So rather than any potential delay cause a last minute postponement and piss fans off, they're calling it now and both Burnley and the PL agree that's fine. A non-story really.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #83
SkyBlueSoul said:
Tbf if you read the BBC article it says it is due to be ready on time but only just. So rather than any potential delay cause a last minute postponement and piss fans off, they're calling it now and both Burnley and the PL agree that's fine. A non-story really.
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Why did they not schedule their first few games away? They've done that in the past for other teams and there was always going to be a risk it wouldn't be ready
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #84
So is it just media shite and not safety?
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #85
Good luck to Luton I say! They need to splash the cash to stay up though
 

ceetee

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #86
shmmeee said:
So is it just media shite and not safety?
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As far as I'm aware there's little or nothing spectator related. It's all about providing the press and TV with the facilities they so richly think they deserve
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #87
Terry_dactyl said:
I can only smell sour grapes.
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ceetee

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #88
Warwickhunt said:
Good luck to Luton I say! They need to splash the cash to stay up though
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I think most of us are of the opinion they're just going to take the money and run and spend that money on their new ground
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #89
chiefdave said:
Why did they not schedule their first few games away? They've done that in the past for other teams and there was always going to be a risk it wouldn't be ready
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I get what you're saying but you'd want to play your first home game back in the PL asap. For as long as it looks like you could, why postpone? I imagine they were in regular contact with the PL and with it not being a health and safety issue they were probably happy to let it slide a bit.
 

jim20

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #90
mmttww said:
To be clear, you expected Luton to drop £10m on work to their ground in case they got promoted? Think that through.
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If that is what is needed to get promoted then yes. Other teams in the past have not been able to move up the football pyramid if they don’t have stadiums which meet the criteria of the league above. Why should it be any different from championship to premier league. One example being Stevenage not being promoted to the football league in the 90s.

My big problem with it, isn’t to do with Luton, it’s the inconsistencies across the leagues in this country. One minute a rule is followed, the next jt can be bent/ broken depending on the club and the situation. Which increases the unfairness in football. It’s already massively weighted in bigger clubs favour because of the Sky money, parachute payments etc. To then not implement rules fairly makes it even worse.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #91
I dunno. I think the rule is stupid. So what if the media can’t get in? Safety or capacity is one thing, I don’t feel much sympathy that we might not get a full camera crew for the first few home games.

To be honest they should have redeveloped last season cos they were clearly trending in that direction. But did they have the cash to do so until promotion?
 

Offhegoes

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #92
This sounds a bit like sour grapes to me. Luton have been through the shit just like we have. I hated losing the final but they were the better team on the day without a doubt. Our tactic of hoofing it to Vik (which was forced due to O’Hare and Palmer being out) was always likely to be nullified by a half decent team that did their homework, and Luton did.
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #93
ceetee said:
I think most of us are of the opinion they're just going to take the money and run and spend that money on their new ground
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And I don’t blame them one little bit. It’s their money.
 

ceetee

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #94
Warwickshire lad said:
And I don’t blame them one little bit. It’s their money.
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Oh, I agree.

There was a time when I thought it would be too soon if we were promoted and then I thought no, just take the money and consolidate
 
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mmttww

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #95
jim20 said:
If that is what is needed to get promoted then yes. Other teams in the past have not been able to move up the football pyramid if they don’t have stadiums which meet the criteria of the league above. Why should it be any different from championship to premier league. One example being Stevenage not being promoted to the football league in the 90s.

My big problem with it, isn’t to do with Luton, it’s the inconsistencies across the leagues in this country. One minute a rule is followed, the next jt can be bent/ broken depending on the club and the situation. Which increases the unfairness in football. It’s already massively weighted in bigger clubs favour because of the Sky money, parachute payments etc. To then not implement rules fairly makes it even worse.
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I don't understand this at all. It's one game. Once they had the capital, they did the work. What that's got to do with Stevenage in the 90s, f*ck knows.

We broke rules, got a suspended punishment. Should we have been docked points there and then instead? I'll be rooting for them, I know that much.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #96
mmttww said:
I don't understand this at all. It's one game. Once they had the capital, they did the work. What that's got to do with Stevenage in the 90s, f*ck knows.

We broke rules, got a suspended punishment. Should we have been docked points there and then instead? I'll be rooting for them, I know that much.
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Different league aswell - premier league under different governing to the EFL
 

jim20

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #97
mmttww said:
I don't understand this at all. It's one game. Once they had the capital, they did the work. What that's got to do with Stevenage in the 90s, f*ck knows.

We broke rules, got a suspended punishment. Should we have been docked points there and then instead? I'll be rooting for them, I know that much.
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The suspended points is still a punishment.

It’s about consistency in the rules, no consistency from the governing body, that’s all.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #98
Warwickhunt said:
Good luck to Luton I say! They need to splash the cash to stay up though
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I don’t think they’re all that bothered about staying up.They probably have something like a 10 year plan to become an established PL club though.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #99
jim20 said:
The suspended points is still a punishment.

It’s about consistency in the rules, no consistency from the governing body, that’s all.
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You do realise it’s two different bodies with different sets of rules?
 

jim20

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  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #100
Grendel said:
You do realise it’s two different bodies with different sets of rules?
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I do realise that. But there should still be consistency
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #101
jim20 said:
I do realise that. But there should still be consistency
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Different scenario aswell - Stevenage was a capacity issue, which I think is the same in the prem. Luton’s is media facilities isn’t it? Can be added before the season which they expect.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2023
  • #102
If I was a Luton fan browsing this one, it would be a case of what we think the Sunderland forum is like.
 
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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Jul 16, 2023
  • #103
Although Luton were in the ascendancy again at the end of the playoff final, the key for me was the Hamer injury. He stays on the field and I believe we would have won the game.

Not sure what to make of their stadium situation, it’s a dump that is barely fit for any division, but it’s not like they haven’t been going through years of planning wrangles trying to sort out their new ground. There probably has been a reluctance to blow a load of cash upgrading Kenilworth Road.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2023
  • #104
Grendel said:
You do realise it’s two different bodies with different sets of rules?
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3 if you include Dave
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 16, 2023
  • #105
Skyblueweeman said:
If I was a Luton fan browsing this one, it would be a case of what we think the Sunderland forum is like.
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Very mackemesque, though to be fair its only a small minority.
 
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