He played for Oxford City this season, Criminals like Lee Hughes and Luke McCormick should not be allowed into the game after what they have done. I know people say everyone deserves a second chance, but IMO, not eveyrone.
Agreed but it is the fact that they make a very nice living as a footballer, which is also akin to celebrity status, that is the thing that grates most with people.
At the end of the day is it is just a game and should someone convicted of causing the death of two children by dangerous driving really be put into such a privileged position?
They served their time in the eyes of the law, after that, criminals shouldn't necessarily be excluded from society, especially in this case where they were accidents.
Not exempting them or anything, but it's the justice system that judges and condemns criminals, not the public, otherwise any crime would be punishable by death (overexaggeration but you know my point).
Children died because of this man. It wasnt an 'accident' it was sheer selfishness.
Its fine for the 'he's a decent lad' crowd to forgive and forget because they haven't lost their children.
He has proved beyond doubt that he is nowhere near decent.
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He played for Oxford City this season, Criminals like Lee Hughes and Luke McCormick should not be allowed into the game after what they have done. I know people say everyone deserves a second chance, but IMO, not eveyrone.
no one is excusing what he did, should have hung him and got it over with eh?! :facepalm:
I think most people agree he shouldn't be in football again but he has done his time (whether it was enough is debatable). The families of the children will of course never forgive him but there is nothing he can do to take it back.
What is this fascination with footballers having to somehow be banned for doing something off the football field? Why should they be singled out as people who deserve more punishment. He steps out on the pitch knowing that he killed people. So do the 8000 people who watch him. Presumably on his best behaviour?
Because this is a privileged job and a public facing role where he should be setting the right example, he clearly hasn't done this.
He played for Oxford City this season, Criminals like Lee Hughes and Luke McCormick should not be allowed into the game after what they have done. I know people say everyone deserves a second chance, but IMO, not eveyrone.
I think this all comes down to how we all perceive sentencing. What's strong enough and fits the crime as to what's some will think too strong or unfair. Society will always be split over that. How do you make a crime fit a tragedy? Someone who never went out intending to kill anyone?
How do you make a crime fit recklessness particularly if it ends in tragic death of innocent people? He's not a murderer but he is responsible for killing people. Premeditation is one thing, tragic accident is another. But if you load a gun your risk gets greater that you will shoot someone and kill them. If you drive a car drunk the resulting risk is the same? Don't load the gun if you are not prepared to take the consequences is the morale here.
It was an accident, he drove drunk, normal people do it, .
A tyre blow-out is an accident. Driving while drunk isn't.
I would argue that drinking and driving is "normal".
That's why drink drivers get charged with murder, not manslaughter, from the moment you sit behind the wheel whilst over the limit, you are entirely responsible for anything that happens i.e. an accident, but, lots of people do it, doesn't make it right but in this case, taking away someone's livelyhood for an offence many ordinary people commit (minus the killing), after serving a jail sentence, and being sacked, is ridiculous.
"Ridiculous" is that 2 parents have to live the rest of their lives without their 2 beloved children...knowing they will never see them grow up and fulfill their life's potential. Never see them graduate, get married, have kids, give them grandchildren, all because some big shot footballer was in a hurry to get somewhere and couldn't wait till he'd sobered up before getting behind the wheel. Sorry but as a 'role model' I think it's disgraceful that he can just go back to his lucrative career as if nothing happened....If he was in any other profession he would not walk back into a job so easily. It's difficult enough in the current economic climate to get any job even with an unblemished record. Before you ask...I have never once drank whilst over the limit so maybe I'm not "normal" then by your reckoning.
"Ridiculous" is that 2 parents have to live the rest of their lives without their 2 beloved children...knowing they will never see them grow up and fulfill their life's potential. Never see them graduate, get married, have kids, give them grandchildren, all because some big shot footballer was in a hurry to get somewhere and couldn't wait till he'd sobered up before getting behind the wheel. Sorry but as a 'role model' I think it's disgraceful that he can just go back to his lucrative career as if nothing happened....If he was in any other profession he would not walk back into a job so easily. It's difficult enough in the current economic climate to get any job even with an unblemished record. Before you ask...I have never once drank whilst over the limit so maybe I'm not "normal" then by your reckoning.
BSB got it pretty much spot on.
To add to that, what are we supposed to do then? Lock someone up for life? McCormick has served his time for the crime therefore, in theory should be 'even', obviously he should (I hope he will) be haunted with his crime for the rest of his life, he'll have it on his record for the rest of is life, and he got sacked, he was punished and rightly so - what more do you ask?
I haven't learnt how to drive (quite close to my test) and I don't think I'll ever drive whilst over the limit, but my point is, which you've either deliberately been awkward about, or misunderstood, is that drink driving is a crime committed on a daily basis by all bands of society (rich, poor, young, old, black, white, asian, christian, muslim, Jewish, celebrities etc. etc.) why is there so many campaigns for drink driving if it weren't so widespread? It's something that should be eradicated, but severe punishments won't do that, rehabilitation and awareness will, eventually.
My point is that those 'ordinary' people who do the same don't usually just walk back into their highly paid jobs immediately after they've 'paid their debt' so why should he? I wasn't deliberately misunderstanding or being awkward about your point! Touchy. I also believe that severe punishments can act as a deterrent and that where drink driving is concerned the potential consequences of their actions should be taken into consideration too and not just the actual outcome. Such as the guy who drove through my local as I walked past, pissed up,high strength lager in hand,doing 80 in a built up area,9 month pregnant missus next to him, narrowly missed me and drove through the family area which is usually packed and but for a miracle there weren't multiple deaths. Would've been a disaster on a national scale. He went to do a runner,leaving his pregnant missus in there to save his sorry skin but was stopped. Got a suspended sentence. Pathetic.
What he did will haunt him for the rest of his life.
Meanwhile the parents of the children he killed due his gross recklessness will be having a spiffing time, won't they?
To be honest I hope the rest of his days are haunted.
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