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SBT

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  • Aug 26, 2023
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So it appears we have two regular starters who are capable of them now. Robins doesn’t seem that interested in using them, and it doesn’t seem consistent with the rest of our playing style. But should we just use them anyway?
 
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Blind-Faith

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #2
It’s so so so ugly to watch and I’ve slated every team that’s come to us and done it , so it’s a massive no from me
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #3
SBT said:
So it appears we have two regular starters who are capable of them now. Robins doesn’t seem that interested in using them, and it doesn’t seem consistent with the rest of our playing style. But should we just use them anyway?
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He does seem interested in using them. We did use them!
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #4
Finham said:
He does seem interested in using them. We did use them!
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I just meant from his post-match interview!
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #5
Robins spoke about our long throws today
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #6
SBT said:
I just meant from his post-match interview!
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During which he sounded delighted about having a long throw weapon in his arsenal?
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #7
How many goals we did score from Gunnarssons? Can only remember Scott Dann v Newcastle in the cup, any others?
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #8
It’s another option that keeps the opponents guessing and gives us an option late on. Why not TBH? Don’t have to be like Birmingham doing it every time it’s in the opposite half.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #9
I'm a fan
 

Finham

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #10
SlowerThanPlatt said:
How many goals we did score from Gunnarssons? Can only remember Scott Dann v Newcastle in the cup, any others?
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Not many, weren't used well. He looked more dangerous with them when he left us!
 

hill83

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #11
If it hasn’t got a cool Italian name like Trequartista I’m not interested
 
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Finham

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  • Aug 26, 2023
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hill83 said:
If it hasn’t got a cool Italian name like Trequartista I’m not interested
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Liberothrowesta?
 
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the rumpo kid

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #13
If you have it, use it. Just win.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #14
It's certainly worth using from time to time.

But Sunderland won the header every time we tried it didn't they?
 

CovLis86

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #15
PVA said:
It's certainly worth using from time to time.

But Sunderland won the header every time we tried it didn't they?
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Didn't we use it twice, and one Thomas got a touch and hit the post / keeper saved front post. The other was headed out and we had a blocked shot I think?

It's ugly, but it's a nightmare for any team to deal with. If we are leading no, go possession. Draw or behind, absolutely use it.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #16
If there’s a chance to get the ball in the box, why not.

Saying no to long throws is like being a weirdo who likes short corners.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #17
PVA said:
It's certainly worth using from time to time.

But Sunderland won the header every time we tried it didn't they?
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It's new to our game, so it's going to take time to organise position ect.

If we need a goal and it's the last kick of the game and we get a throw in near the penalty area we would be silly not to use it.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #18
First one clearly caused problems for Sunderland.

People will say how many goals are scored from them but how many goals are scored from corners?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 26, 2023
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Finham said:
Liberothrowesta?
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Trabucco sounds good. Just means trebuchet in Italian
 
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CovLis86

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #20
pusbccfc said:
First one clearly caused problems for Sunderland.

People will say how many goals are scored from them but how many goals are scored from corners?
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One Reddit user analysed 115,199 corners taken in 11,234 matches to see how much use they were. From those, 1,459 goals were from a corner. This meant an average of 4.74 per cent of goals were scored in some way or another from corners, but just 1.27% of corners led directly to a goal.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #21
CovLis86 said:
One Reddit user analysed 115,199 corners taken in 11,234 matches to see how much use they were. From those, 1,459 goals were from a corner. This meant an average of 4.74 per cent of goals were scored in some way or another from corners, but just 1.27% of corners led directly to a goal.
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Would love to see the comparison between this and a long throw.

Always felt like throws cause more issues because they can come from different positions on the touchline.
 
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CovLis86

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #22
Obviously a unique case, but it goes back to teams rather hit it out for a corner than let Delap take a long throw was it? The angle / trajectory is harder to deal with as a defensive unit.
 

Hobo

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #23
There is a time and a place for it. But if you become over reliant on it, it is just another form of hoof ball.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #24
If all it ever does is put a bit of doubt in a defender mind when putting it out it's worth it, even if we never use it
 
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Astute

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #25
If we're going to use the long throw we need to get our tall players in the box. They create panic and pull defenders out of place. It's the luck of the draw on where the ball drops after a clearance as well as the chances you get.
 

Finham

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #26
Astute said:
If we're going to use the long throw we need to get our tall players in the box. They create panic and pull defenders out of place. It's the luck of the draw on where the ball drops after a clearance as well as the chances you get.
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Problem being of course the new ruling is tantamount to "you get free fouls when defending set pieces".
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #27
Do we have the big nasty bastards required to make the most of them? Or do you not really need them?

Personally I think it’s a bit anti-football, and I don’t see how it fits in with a short passing play-from-the-back mentality, but maybe I’m just being pretentious and you should just do it if it gets results.
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #28
Blind-Faith said:
It’s so so so ugly to watch and I’ve slated every team that’s come to us and done it , so it’s a massive no from me
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IMAGINE THE CARNAGE AT KENILWORTH ROAD
 

SBAndy

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #29
SBT said:
Do we have the big nasty bastards required to make the most of them? Or do you not really need them?

Personally I think it’s a bit anti-football, and I don’t see how it fits in with a short passing play-from-the-back mentality, but maybe I’m just being pretentious and you should just do it if it gets results.
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It’s variety. Quite often really useful to have the option but take a short throw in - you’ve bought more space to play in.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #30
Also should mean we can launch it up the pitch from full back position
 

Hutch11

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  • Aug 26, 2023
  • #31
If we'd have won 1-0 and we scored as a result of a long throw no one would give a shit
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 27, 2023
  • #32
SBT said:
Do we have the big nasty bastards required to make the most of them? Or do you not really need them?

Personally I think it’s a bit anti-football, and I don’t see how it fits in with a short passing play-from-the-back mentality, but maybe I’m just being pretentious and you should just do it if it gets results.
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We get so few crosses into the box from the wide areas down the by line it is at least an option we could use. He got more in that way than with his feet
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 27, 2023
  • #33
SBT said:
Do we have the big nasty bastards required to make the most of them? Or do you not really need them?

Personally I think it’s a bit anti-football, and I don’t see how it fits in with a short passing play-from-the-back mentality, but maybe I’m just being pretentious and you should just do it if it gets results.
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We were the most direct team in the league last season…
 

Bad Boy

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  • Aug 27, 2023
  • #34
Blind-Faith said:
It’s so so so ugly to watch and I’ve slated every team that’s come to us and done it , so it’s a massive no from me
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It is ugly B-F but sometimes you have to play to your strengths. There are times when you can't always play beautiful football and a long throw can relieve the pressure. Provided it's used sparingly but effectively I can go with it.
 

Mcbean

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  • Aug 27, 2023
  • #35
a couple of years ago any Coventry throw went back to the our opposition , it was only when O Hare started to run away and the ball thrown for him to run onto that we got advantage from our throws- so i am all for it not every time but it can be an effective weapon against us so why not
 
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