Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Private landlord seems to have been warned and warned. So sad profits before life
Rip all those who have lost their lives
Rip all those who have lost their lives
Looks like the plastic used to reclad the building was not fire resistant. This looks like corporate manslaughter to me. Council, housing association and construction company should be in the dock. There's a blog that's been posted from the residents association where they warned of the danger.It's amazing that it spread so quickly. Regulations nowadays say there must be a minimum of 60 minute fire resistance from one unit to the next.120 seperate units obviously means that it should've 5 whole days for the fire to spread to the whole block.
It's absolutely shocking and so sad for the people who have lost their lives and are injured.
Best wishes to everyone involved.
And probably criminalIt seems there was plenty of people warning something like this was possible in that block of flats. How it could happen in this day and age is an absolute disgrace, those poor people dying in the most terrible way.
It's hard to know what is and what isn't misinformation but I've read the fire alarms and sprinkler systems had been turned off during renovation and not put back on. If true then that's just staggering.
Saw it on the news and it looked really bad, reminded me of the twin towers
Blocks up and down the Country have been given a facelift with external claddingLooks like the plastic used to reclad the building was not fire resistant. This looks like corporate manslaughter to me. Council, housing association and construction company should be in the dock. There's a blog that's been posted from the residents association where they warned of the danger.
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Absolutely horrific, can't begin to imagine what it would be like.There was an act attempted to be put through parliament last year whereby landlords had to make accommodation fit for human habitation - it was blocked.
No it was a faulty FridgeThe tenants action group warned about a power surge. I reckon that is the most likely cause here again. Disgraceful and RIP to the victims.
No it was a faulty Fridge
From what the experts have been saying tower blocks should have measures in place to contain a fire to a single residence. Clearly that didn't happen here.Seemingly the residents had been told to stay in their flats and shut the doors
No it was a faulty Fridge
I shall be writing to the WM Mayor & my MP tonight suggesting that this decision now needs urgent reconsideration.
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Lax regulations.Surely if it's fitted properly it's OK, or is it the regulations that are lax?
So it seems, however the fire should have been contained to the flat of its origin, I don'tNo it was a faulty Fridge
Yes it does appear that the fire spread externally and the internal containment did work. I guess as the cladding and insulation is external it doesn't need to be fire regulated.So it seems, however the fire should have been contained to the flat of its origin, I don't
Think FP is referring to the fires cause, more the lack of effective containment thereafter.
There's been a lot of talk about the external cladding used during a recent refurbishment
Of the block, it looks possible that this was the reason that the fire spread so quickly.
If it was someone's got a heavy price to pay,
Many people perished unnecessarily in the twin towers, people being told to stay where they Were andThis is terrible.
According to one witness, he went over to the block when he saw the fire because he had friends inside. The left side of the building was in flames, but the other side wasn't and when he went round that side he said that residents were just looking out of their windows not at all looking worried and merely asking what was going on. Seemingly the residents had been told to stay in their flats and shut the doors. By the time the flames came round that side of the building it was too late for many of the residents to escape.
Seems a terrible botch up and all those poor people suffered when surely the building could have been evacuated.
It does.Yes it does appear that the fire spread externally and the internal containment did work. I guess as the cladding and insulation is external it doesn't need to be fire regulated.
Lax regulations.
There was a fire in South London back in 2009 and an all party committee put together to review the regulations. In 2013 they recommended fire safety regulations be overhauled but the government ignored them. One of the areas of concern was cladding on the outside of tower blocks to refurb them.
There was also the Homes (Fitness for Human Habitation) Bill that was proposed by Labour. That was voted down, it tuned out 72 of the MPs who voted against it were landlords. The Government claimed new laws would lead to unnecessary regulation.
It doesn't by current regulations and standards I believe?It does.
If someone left in a hurry and left the door open?From what the experts have been saying tower blocks should have measures in place to contain a fire to a single residence. <snip>
It was saying on TV earlier about the cladding and that it should have a fire plateIt doesn't by current regulations and standards I believe?
It won't do any harm to review the decision will it, besides that block is hemmed in on one side by the ring road in a deep cutting, 14 storeys higher than the HMRC building adjacent and about 8 storeys higher than the new Friargate building.Surely if it's fitted properly it's OK, or is it the regulations that are lax?
Regardless, that's one ugly tower block. I wish they'd build lower rise student "towns" rather than all these massive sky scrapers. Something 5-6 stories high and arranged in streets would be way better IMO.
There should definitely be a law where an MP with an obvious conflict of interest should not be allowed to vote on a proposed bill.Lax regulations.
There was a fire in South London back in 2009 and an all party committee put together to review the regulations. In 2013 they recommended fire safety regulations be overhauled but the government ignored them. One of the areas of concern was cladding on the outside of tower blocks to refurb them.
There was also the Homes (Fitness for Human Habitation) Bill that was proposed by Labour. That was voted down, it tuned out 72 of the MPs who voted against it were landlords. The Government claimed new laws would lead to unnecessary regulation.
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