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Nick

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #36
Gosford Green said:
What is this point then ? One fan thinks another is a scab or a bit of a c**t for having a different opinion on a football matter.
As old as the game.
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It's the one where it makes the boycott look stupid and puts people off doing it.

That's why hopefully people organising it will stay on top of it all to distance themselves.
 

Hobo

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #37
clint van damme said:
I've got a season ticket but I intend to support the boycott even though I don't think it's the best idea but it's the only act of defiance out there at the moment.

However, the though of standing shoulder to shoulder with cunts like this makes me question whether to bother or not.
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Exactly it not only undermines the cause it undermines the organisers who have made it clear it is down to individuals to make the choice. It is not about dividing fans it is about a protest against the owners.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #38
 
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ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #39
I think he's deleted it all now unless my Twitter's just gone a bit mad.
 
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Gosford Green

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #40
Nick said:
It's the one where it makes the boycott look stupid and puts people off doing it.

That's why hopefully people organising it will stay on top of it all to distance themselves.
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One slightly over enthusiastic and more than likely young fan, frustrated at the inability to get any sort of protest action going and not the best at debating his point in an educated way. However he seems to have got a lot more exposure than a more measured approach would have done.

I am sure there will be plenty at the protest who will be able to keep things in order.
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #41
torchomatic said:
Curtis ‏@cjmclellan 16h16 hours ago
If you're a Cov fan that goes to Rochdale because "you support the team", you don't support the team and youre a scab #pusb

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I know Curtis well and there's *NO* way he believes this. I can't find the tweet so presumably it's been deleted.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #42
Gosford Green said:
I am sure there will be plenty at the protest who will be able to keep things in order.
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Hopefully!

It is just a shame that the protests and action are divisive ones, with one of the arguments about SISU is that they divide the fanbase and everything is about "unity" and Jimmy Hill.
 
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ccfchoi87

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #43
pastythegreat said:
Well said. It's easy now to say 'I WILL NOT ENTER THE RICOH' cuz there's nothing exciting in there for a pay on the day fan to go in for. Win 4 or 5 though and it gets more difficult.
Why is the answer boycott a home game though? They already have my money so what's the difference if I go or don't? As I've paid, and I've travelled to the ricoh, I may aswell go and sit down on my seat and try and enjoy the game!

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I wouldn't use the phrase 'enjoy the game' more like 'suffer through it'!
 
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The Penguin

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #44
skybluetony176 said:
I won't be boycotting home games personally. Fair play to those that do but this isn't Sixfields situation for me where I very much felt that a boycott was warranted. Happy to take part in any organised protest inside though. Already have my Simon Gilbert get your haircut flyer to wave tonight
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Just my view of course but I think having an organised protest inside for those who still want to attend the match and support the players is a great idea.

That way, those people who feel a boycott and protest outside is the best approach can do their thing; the people who go to the game then also have a way to make their feelings known.
 
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pastythegreat

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #45
ccfchoi87 said:
I wouldn't use the phrase 'enjoy the game' more like 'suffer through it'!
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I did put 'try' and enjoy the game


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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #46
The kid has made his account private... Holding up to the criticism well then.
 
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Gosford Green

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #47
I actually share the frustration of this lad and others. Watching 90 minutes of bad football where the city will probably lose is in a minor matter in the grander scheme. I genuinely think the club will not be here in a year unless the owners change their operating method or sell up, neither seem plausible going forward.

Organising effective protests among a fan base demoralised to the point of being almost supine is like herding cats.
 
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Gosford Green

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #48
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
The kid has made his account private... Holding up to the criticism well then.
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The lad has put his name to what he said. Not hiding being a user name on a forum like some of the big men do on here.
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #49
Seeing comments now saying 'if you go to the game you don't care about the club' hmm yeah I'm just going to sit in the Cold and enjoy the world class players that are playing and I don't care about the result. Erm...
 
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ashbyjan

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #50
The Penguin said:
Just my view of course but I think having an organised protest inside for those who still want to attend the match and support the players is a great idea.

That way, those people who feel a boycott and protest outside is the best approach can do their thing; the people who go to the game then also have a way to make their feelings known.
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This is the first of a series of actions - there will be protests outside ground one week, inside ground another, visits to London, calls on boycott of merchandise (donate money to JHLF instead) etc etc. One single protest wont get get rid of these owners but a continuous series of things may, just may, have some effect - we live in hope.

Just to reiterate that it is peoples choice whether they join in, go into ground etc and anyone who name calls or threatens because they either don't like people protesting or don't like people not boycotting is a complete fool. At the end of the day we are all Sky Blue and fighting among ourselves just makes us weaker and takes focus away from what any boycott/protest is trying to achieve.
 
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The Penguin

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #51
ashbyjan said:
This is the first of a series of actions - there will be protests outside ground one week, inside ground another, visits to London, calls on boycott of merchandise (donate money to JHLF instead) etc etc. One single protest wont get get rid of these owners but a continuous series of things may, just may, have some effect - we live in hope.
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One protest might not work - hell, all of the planned actions may not work - but doing something is a helluva lot better than doing nothing at all.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #52
Thing is, it is too late for a boycott of merchandise as people have already bought it... If people want to buy shirts they will at the start of the season etc.

The action should be things to bring people together
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #53
ashbyjan said:
This is the first of a series of actions - there will be protests outside ground one week, inside ground another, visits to London, calls on boycott of merchandise (donate money to JHLF instead) etc etc. .
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Appreciate your all trying and they aren't easy to organise, but if this was communicated (doesn't need to be specific dates for the other pending protests) we would get more support.

If it was announced that the plan of action after listening to all the fans was....

1. Protests outside ground at Rochdale game
2. Protest inside ground and encouraging fans to pack the place (game to be confirmed)
3. Protest visits to London (date to be confirmed),
4. Boycott of merchandise / programmes etc and donate to JHLF (game to be confirmed)

It would make it very difficult for anyone to argue.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #54
The only problem with the protest is that as a season ticket holder they have my money already for that game, a total boycott of the checkatrade game might have been better but I guess less hard hitting. Maybe a boycott in the third round if the fa cup if we get a big draw:woot:
 

ashbyjan

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #55
The Penguin said:
One protest might not work - hell, all of the planned actions may not work - but doing something is a helluva lot better than doing nothing at all.
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The club is dying before our eyes, our owners have washed their hands of it and simply don't care whether it lives or dies - well we bloody care and are not prepared to sit back and at least try and save it.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #56
ashbyjan said:
The club is dying before our eyes
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Without going too much into it, promoting a boycott of tickets and merchandise isn't really solving that issue.

It should be about bringing everybody together about CCFC, the one common thing. Pro CCFC rather than anti.

Why not get a few thousand blue wigs or something. Whether people go in or not make everywhere sky blue.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #57
ashbyjan said:
The club is dying before our eyes, our owners have washed their hands of it and simply don't care whether it lives or dies - well we bloody care and are not prepared to sit back and at least try and save it.
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council are killing us too right? i think you forgot to post that bit
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #58
clint van damme said:
I've got a season ticket but I intend to support the boycott even though I don't think it's the best idea but it's the only act of defiance out there at the moment.

However, the though of standing shoulder to shoulder with cunts like this makes me question whether to bother or not.
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Clint, rest safe in the knowledge, if you change tack and decide to go in, a similar percentage
Of fans you're standing with will also be c**t's........ It's the law.
 
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curtis87

Active Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #59
I made the tweet, and the subsequent explanation for why I used the term, and have deleted the tweet.

The reason I have deleted the tweet is that it undermines the collective action of fans and is needlessly divisive. If I had known it would cause such offence I would not have posted it. The more united we are, the more effective our protests will be.

So I reiterate my apologies on this forum too. I hope that fans support the protests as much as possible.

(I was also a scab - I went to Northampton once. So not only was I needlessly divisive, but also a hypocrite).
 
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torchomatic

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #60
Gosford Green said:
The lad has put his name to what he said. Not hiding being a user name on a forum like some of the big men do on here.
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Good point, Mr Green.
 
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duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #61
Gosford Green said:
Maybe the club can provide you with a safe place in the event a beastly fan calls you a name.
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Defending calling people 'scabs' is just about the stupidest thing I've seen here in a very, very long time. I'm a peaceful man for the most part, but anyone who called me that might be on the end of something a bit more direct than an unpleasant name. I doubt I'd be the only one who felt that way - can you see where this is heading?

People have got every right to go to the game without being abused. It's embarassing, stupid and self-defeating to advocate, support or defend it happening. Splitting the fans in this way is just about the daftest thing I've ever heard of, and anyone who thinks it's acceptable is both an idiot and a menace. I do hope that's not too beastly for you.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #62
curtis87 said:
I made the tweet, and the subsequent explanation for why I used the term, and have deleted the tweet.

The reason I have deleted the tweet is that it undermines the collective action of fans and is needlessly divisive. If I had known it would cause such offence I would not have posted it. The more united we are, the more effective our protests will be.

So I reiterate my apologies on this forum too. I hope that fans support the protests as much as possible.

(I was also a scab - I went to Northampton once. So not only was I needlessly divisive, but also a hypocrite).
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fair play.
 

torchomatic

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #63
curtis87 said:
(I was also a scab - I went to Northampton once. So not only was I needlessly divisive, but also a hypocrite).
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You apologise and then right at the end you do it again. You weren't a scab going to Northampton.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #64
curtis87 said:
I made the tweet, and the subsequent explanation for why I used the term, and have deleted the tweet.

The reason I have deleted the tweet is that it undermines the collective action of fans and is needlessly divisive. If I had known it would cause such offence I would not have posted it. The more united we are, the more effective our protests will be.

So I reiterate my apologies on this forum too. I hope that fans support the protests as much as possible.

(I was also a scab - I went to Northampton once. So not only was I needlessly divisive, but also a hypocrite).
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Well said, you " feckin scab"
 
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Gosford Green

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #65
duffer said:
Defending calling people 'scabs' is just about the stupidest thing I've seen here in a very, very long time. I'm a peaceful man for the most part, but anyone who called me that might be on the end of something a bit more direct than an unpleasant name. I doubt I'd be the only one who felt that way - can you see where this is heading?

People have got every right to go to the game without being abused. It's embarassing, stupid and self-defeating to advocate, support or defend it happening. Splitting the fans in this way is just about the daftest thing I've ever heard of, and anyone who thinks it's acceptable is both an idiot and a menace. I do hope that's not too beastly for you.
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I defend his right to an opinion. Same as you have the right to one, as I have said before 1 fan young fan, not the best at putting over his point.

You sound quite hard so I sure he will not call you a name.
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #66
curtis87 said:
I made the tweet, and the subsequent explanation for why I used the term, and have deleted the tweet.

The reason I have deleted the tweet is that it undermines the collective action of fans and is needlessly divisive. If I had known it would cause such offence I would not have posted it. The more united we are, the more effective our protests will be.

So I reiterate my apologies on this forum too. I hope that fans support the protests as much as possible.

(I was also a scab - I went to Northampton once. So not only was I needlessly divisive, but also a hypocrite).
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Fair enough. I've got to admit that it got right under my skin, this. Appreciate that you've been man enough to come on here and explain, I hope others see it the same way.
 
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Gosford Green

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #67
torchomatic said:
You apologise and then right at the end you do it again. You weren't a scab going to Northampton.
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That again is down to personal opinion and choice of words that wish to be used by the person.
 
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curtis87

Active Member
  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #68
torchomatic said:
You apologise and then right at the end you do it again. You weren't a scab going to Northampton.
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Thank you, but I intended that to be a bit of levity at the end of a serious post to show I'm not a complete miserablist.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #69
Nick said:
It's the one where it makes the boycott look stupid and puts people off doing it.

That's why hopefully people organising it will stay on top of it all to distance themselves.
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Who is this Curtis guy anyway as I said in an earlier thread if you go in you go in if you don't you don't. No abuse either way what don't people get if this person is deliberately doung this to divide the fans even more then shout scab to me because I'm going in whether I stay in well?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Sep 28, 2016
  • #70
curtis87 said:
Thank you, but I intended that to be a bit of levity at the end of a serious post to show I'm not a complete miserablist.
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You shouldn't have put it in the first place
 
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