Our best run last year, that got us into the play offs was 532. Simms and Assante up front, when Wright injured.He's somewhat limited with the strikers he has available, ie Simms and BTA, he can't bring another striker in while we are paying £100k a week to Simms and the (unfit) Wright.
The only other option is to play 2 uptop, (Simms and BTA together) but that would mean having less possession in midfield.
Looking at the stats we had enough chances to of scored at least 1 goal, but weren't clinical enough when it mattered.
But anybody fretting after one game, please take a breath for your own sanity.
I think the OP is fair to question why there was still seemingly a lack of plan B.
Yep, it’s the first game of the season, but it’s the same symptoms of last. We’ve had the summer to address it and haven’t. He’s also had the same group to work with, so all have had a full pre-season to take on board new instructions.
On the other hand it’s game one and perhaps FL et al feel the current players aren’t capable of the plan B be wants to play. We might see a change with new recruits.
Clearly nowhere near time for him to go, but it would be good to see us react and adapt.
We’re a play off “favourite” so more teams are going to sit in against us and we need a response.
Plus there was an early season display of “Robin’s time”Stoke looked great today. MR must be thrilled and laughing. They've had a great transfer window as well.
I'm sure FL isn't laughing when he had/has to sort out the terrible keeper, dodgy centre backs, passive midfield and flaccid strike force Robins spent all our windfall money on.Stoke looked great today. MR must be thrilled and laughing. They've had a great transfer window as well.
I'm sure FL isn't laughing when he had/has to sort out the terrible keeper, dodgy centre backs, passive midfield and flaccid strike force Robins spent all our windfall money on.
Of course it is. FL has to sort out all the recruitment weaknesses of the last few years.He got us to 5th last season. I'm sure we'll do OK this season but if we don't, it won't be anything to do with Robins.
Of course it is. FL has to sort out all the recruitment weaknesses of the last few years.
Starting with Collins and Binks. Then probably Simms and a centre back.
I know I could look this up myself but I can't be arsed.We’ve won 1 in 2 games since Lampard has been manager. He’s had to work with some ridiculously bad signings by the prior regime.
We finished 5th despite being 17th when he took over?
I know I could look this up myself but I can't be arsed.
What is the win% and PPM if you take out those initial games of our 9 game winning run playing the 3-5-2?
Will be interesting to see how we do and how we play on Saturday. Away performances at the end of last season simply weren’t good enough. They’ve had a summer to work on it, hopefully there is improvements.Our home form was still very good after we reverted to 4 at the back, it was our away form that took a dip.
We’ve won 1 in 2 games since Lampard has been manager. He’s had to work with some ridiculously bad signings by the prior regime.
We finished 5th despite being 17th when he took over?
But what formation?Think at the moment I’d go two up front. None of them look right in the line striker role and neither winger is impacting much. Plus our CMs are pretty sitty so a system that pushes Grimes up a bit, doesn’t expect Sheaf or Torp to become Hamer and lets Rudi run about where he likes while removing some of the defensive burden from the full backs probably isn’t the worst idea.
But what formation?
I feel like that'd be very susceptible to counter attacks. Simms and Wright obviously wont track back, if Grimes is further forward and the wing backs have pushed up, that leaves Sheaf in front of the back 3.. none of which possess any pace.352 with Rudi and the wingbacks pushing up to 325 but Grimes further forward so he’s recycling it further up the pitch. Something like:
Rushworth
Lats Thomas Kitching
MvE Grimes Sheaf Brau
Rudi
Simms Wright
Fitness and form depending. Bloody risky with only Perry for backup but we need a CB regardless IMO.
I feel like that'd be very susceptible to counter attacks. Simms and Wright obviously wont track back, if Grimes is further forward and the wing backs have pushed up, that leaves Sheaf in front of the back 3.. none of which possess any pace.
Would probably be cracking to watch going forward though
4-2-3-1 could work really well for us if we changed the way we played it.Grimes further up from where he is as currently Rudi and Sheaf/Torp do that role when we’re attacking but Grimes and Sheaf gives you a bit more of a base and allows Rudi to focus on going where there’s space and getting on the end of crosses from the full backs or from grimes and sheaf from deep. It’s not ideal but I just don’t see the 4231 working for us at the moment. Certainly away.
532 or stick with the system, but play Wright left, Simms CF. 38 goals , season before.But what formation?
I think it will have a fair impact. The latter signings of that era were bizarre. Lampard (or whoever) has somehow found a buyer for Binks but it’s not proving as easy to move on Latibeaudiere, Dasilva, Bassette, Simms, BTA, Collins or Raphael. Strange signings all.He got us to 5th last season. I'm sure we'll do OK this season but if we don't, it won't be anything to do with Robins.
I think it will have a fair impact. The latter signings of that era were bizarre. Lampard (or whoever) has somehow found a buyer for Binks but it’s not proving as easy to move on Latibeaudiere, Dasilva, Bassette, Simms, BTA, Collins or Raphael. Strange signings all.
I think it will have a fair impact. The latter signings of that era were bizarre. Lampard (or whoever) has somehow found a buyer for Binks but it’s not proving as easy to move on Latibeaudiere, Dasilva, Bassette, Simms, BTA, Collins or Raphael. Strange signings all.
Not entirely clear on the relevance to my post.
I know I could look this up myself but I can't be arsed.
What is the win% and PPM if you take out those initial games of our 9 game winning run playing the 3-5-2?
I haven’t separated this between Robins/Lampard because I can’t be arsed.
But playing 3 at the back we were 1.57ppg
Playing 4 at the back we were 1.47ppg
100%, the meltdown on forums after 1 game is incredible. Hull defended very well in their low block, especially Charlie Hughes who won everything. Our match sharpness will be better as we play a few games.We’ve won 1 in 2 games since Lampard has been manager. He’s had to work with some ridiculously bad signings by the prior regime.
We finished 5th despite being 17th when he took over?
Lampard is obsessed with crosses and throws into the box. He has no plan B or midfield that can break a team down running at defenders. Other teams have worked him out like Sunderland did in the second leg. We need a midfield playmaker like dare I say Ohare who can create chances for our front men instead of the slow ponderous play to get it out to the wing for then a pointless cross to one up front whos marked by two 7’ giants
anyone else miss the fast attacking play from three seasons a go that disappeared once Hamer and Ohare went ?
instead we not have a midfield of Sammy sideways Clingan and forward line who is better at wearing a fake bandage than scoring
OK, that’s correct. The main point though is that whoever bought them it’s going to have an impact on Lampards tenure for a while as what he inherited needs work. And to be fair he did inherit some very good players as well.You’re naming all the signings after Austin came in and took responsibility for signings away from Robins tbf.
One possibility other than funds for our lack of signings of course is that Lampard is rejecting a lot of what’s put in front of him I guess if he’s insisting on more control.
you said it’s the same issues as last season and we’ve had all summer to address it?
We finished fifth despite being near the relegation zone when this management team took over? What needed addressing?
Lack of plan b or ability to adapt, I think my point was pretty clear to be honest.
Doesn’t meant I want Lampard out, doesn’t mean the world is ending, I’d just like us to have a different option when faced with a low block.
Pretty sure the forum is unanimous on that.
Torp and Grimes both split the defence.
How many times did BTA or Wright get it into feet close to or in the box just to fuck about with it and lose it?
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