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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Saturday at 10:27 PM
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No I’m NOT calling for his replacement already but…questions need to be asked.

The quite ridiculous sticking to a rigid tactical formation (without changing to another) that clearly wasn’t doing anything against a Hull side clearly there for the taking.

Lack of a pressing system that FL said that he himself would like to adopt. High press and attacking football I think he said-which we have only seen fleetingly.

Leaving a striker on the bench and bringing on a left back as a winger when we clearly need a goal. In fact bringing on a clearly unfit striker in a central role we all know he clearly can’t do and bringing off the one player who looked like he could create something was baffling.

Not advocating anything rash but FL has the whole of the summer to address the tactical side and thinking of alternatives if one system doesn’t work.

Same old ponderous slow build up bollocks-is it the players or the system?

Playing Hull was a perfect opportunity to be a bit more risky and try something different.

I’ve not mentioned recruitment deliberately as that out of FL’s hands. But we clearly need some pace and creativity in this team.

Positives-we didn’t look like conceding and the goalie was bloody brilliant.

Just trying to stimulate some discussion NOT calling for Franks replacement or wetting the bed!

Thoughts?


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Ccfcisparks

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  • Saturday at 10:28 PM
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We are 1 game into the season, the transfer window isn't done and hes got players injured.

Yes it is annoying how he seems a little stubborn with his formation and the way he wants to play, but I'll be more concerned by the end of the window if he's done nothing to rectify it.
 
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rob9872

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  • Saturday at 10:28 PM
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SkyBlue_Adam

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  • Saturday at 10:32 PM
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You literally wet the bed with 8 paragraphs of waffle and finished with ‘not wetting the bed’
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Saturday at 10:32 PM
  • #5
Stoke looked great today. MR must be thrilled and laughing. They've had a great transfer window as well.
 
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rob9872

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  • Saturday at 10:36 PM
  • #6
SkyblueTexan said:
Stoke looked great today. MR must be thrilled and laughing. They've had a great transfer window as well.
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So far we've added 3 decent players and lost nobody from a squad that started poorly and finished 5th. I'm not saying we're done or that we won't sell anyone, but our window so far is as good as anyone's.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Saturday at 10:37 PM
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SkyblueTexan said:
Stoke looked great today. MR must be thrilled and laughing. They've had a great transfer window as well.
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It's one game , Stoke beat us in the opening day of the season last season and look at the season they had. Far too early to to come to a conclusion yet.
 
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Marty

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  • Saturday at 10:40 PM
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Not impressed with him. Same issues as last season and he hasn't got a clue. He'll be gone by Christmas.
 

shmmeee

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  • Saturday at 10:42 PM
  • #9
Ccfcisparks said:
We are 1 game into the season, the transfer window isn't done and hes got players injured.

Yes it is annoying how he seems a little stubborn with his formation and the way he wants to play, but I'll be more concerned by the end of the window if he's done nothing to rectify it.
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Wright is the only injury that would be in the side and he played a third of the match. We had our only real period of success when we were forced into a complete tactical change and outside of that have looked ponderous and disjointed in attack with no ideas beyond work it wide and whack an aimless cross in to one striker.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Saturday at 10:43 PM
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1 game, didn't lose, stay calm everyone.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Saturday at 10:45 PM
  • #11
I want to see him with forwards he's signed. Let's be honest I doubt he'd spend £10 million on Simms, BTA and Bassette given the choice. Recycle what money you can from those and let him bring his own people in.
 
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Yorkshire SB

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  • Saturday at 10:50 PM
  • #12
TomRad85 said:
I want to see him with forwards he's signed. Let's be honest I doubt he'd spend £10 million on Simms, BTA and Bassette given the choice. Recycle what money you can from those and let him bring his own people in.
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It’s fair but my worry is if any striker will cut it when we’re slow and predictable with our build up play.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Saturday at 10:53 PM
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shmmeee said:
Wright is the only injury that would be in the side and he played a third of the match. We had our only real period of success when we were forced into a complete tactical change and outside of that have looked ponderous and disjointed in attack with no ideas beyond work it wide and whack an aimless cross in to one striker.
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Eccles will play a big part if not sold.
 
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Chris1987

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  • Saturday at 10:53 PM
  • #14
SkyblueTexan said:
Stoke looked great today. MR must be thrilled and laughing. They've had a great transfer window as well.
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Wind up bollocks
 
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Chris1987

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  • Saturday at 10:56 PM
  • #15
Judgement can only be made after the transfer window has shut and we are able to see if Lampard has the players in to suit his system and indeed if the team as a whole are able to adapt to different set ups from other teams. One game is not enough to be deciding anything
 
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Briles

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  • Saturday at 11:02 PM
  • #16
Fergusons_Beard said:
No I’m NOT calling for his replacement already but…questions need to be asked.

The quite ridiculous sticking to a rigid tactical formation (without changing to another) that clearly wasn’t doing anything against a Hull side clearly there for the taking.

Lack of a pressing system that FL said that he himself would like to adopt. High press and attacking football I think he said-which we have only seen fleetingly.

Leaving a striker on the bench and bringing on a left back as a winger when we clearly need a goal. In fact bringing on a clearly unfit striker in a central role we all know he clearly can’t do and bringing off the one player who looked like he could create something was baffling.

Not advocating anything rash but FL has the whole of the summer to address the tactical side and thinking of alternatives if one system doesn’t work.

Same old ponderous slow build up bollocks-is it the players or the system?

Playing Hull was a perfect opportunity to be a bit more risky and try something different.

I’ve not mentioned recruitment deliberately as that out of FL’s hands. But we clearly need some pace and creativity in this team.

Positives-we didn’t look like conceding and the goalie was bloody brilliant.

Just trying to stimulate some discussion NOT calling for Franks replacement or wetting the bed!

Thoughts?


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Christ.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Saturday at 11:04 PM
  • #17
It is just one game this season and we didn’t lose but it doesn’t hurt to pose questions?! I think mistakes were made.
21/22 days to the end of the window?!
 
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CBS16

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  • Saturday at 11:06 PM
  • #18
He's a talented manager, he was sticking with Plan A for game 1, I don't mind that, but do understand the frustration. We played a solid team today baffled people are saying Hull will drop just can't see that at all
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Saturday at 11:20 PM
  • #19
I will put it on record...I am still not convinced with Lampard 100%, he seems a nice guy obviously intelligent and speaks well, he has raised the profile of the club but it fizzled out last season when it mattered and today wasn't great...yes yes yes I know its the first game and at least we didn't play so much from me to you at the back today but he needs to start changing us into a ruthless winning team before his time runs out
 
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ptr

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  • Saturday at 11:34 PM
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The first ‘this isn’t a Lampard out post but….’ Is here.

Welcome back all.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Saturday at 11:45 PM
  • #21
I've said it many times that Frank can be too stubborn/rigid in his formation and pattern of play .
Robins had an ability to change formation and systems according to players available . Many times we saw the team sheet and wondered what system we would play but we would find a way to surprise one of the top sides .
Could we have gone 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 as the game progressed today ?
Who knows but the very best managers adapt and take risks
 
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Deity

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  • Saturday at 11:54 PM
  • #22
SkyblueTexan said:
Stoke looked great today. MR must be thrilled and laughing. They've had a great transfer window as well.
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They were awful for 80 mins you clown
 
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clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 12:07 AM
  • #23
Deity said:
They were awful for 80 mins you clown
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It's irrelevant either way.
What they do has no bearing on us bar when we play them.
One game in of a 46 game season, no one knows how this will all play out.
 

clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 12:12 AM
  • #24
Perennial Lurker said:
I've said it many times that Frank can be too stubborn/rigid in his formation and pattern of play .
Robins had an ability to change formation and systems according to players available . Many times we saw the team sheet and wondered what system we would play but we would find a way to surprise one of the top sides .
Could we have gone 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 as the game progressed today ?
Who knows but the very best managers adapt and take risks
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He makes mistakes because, despite the nonsense on here, he's not an 'elite level manager'.

He's doing a grand job and I think given time he could get us up but some people have bought into this rhetoric and have ridiculous expectations.

No one managing in the championship is an elite level manager.
 
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Perryccfc

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  • Yesterday at 12:13 AM
  • #25
I’m far from losing my head. Trust FL implicitly. However I did find it odd that our tactic was at every opportunity to deliver the ball into the box yet BTA was up front for a good 65-70mins. Every throw, every free kick etc, all chucked into the box with 2 x 6ft+ strikers sat on the bench. Felt odd.
 
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Seymour_East

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  • Yesterday at 12:18 AM
  • #26
SkyBlue_Adam said:
You literally wet the bed with 8 paragraphs of waffle and finished with ‘not wetting the bed’
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Not all waffle Adam, read again and then judge
 
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procdoc

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  • Yesterday at 12:29 AM
  • #27
SkyblueTexan said:
Stoke looked great today. MR must be thrilled and laughing. They've had a great transfer window as well.
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Stick to NFL
 
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harvey098

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  • Yesterday at 12:31 AM
  • #28
I don’t think our personnel leaves FL many options in terms of formation tbf. I think we’ll see a lot of games like today where we have control and possession whilst being a bit toothless.

I just wish we had a player that could take someone on in the middle of the park and go past them. Our only threat is from width, crossing in for a Rudoni late run into the box. That’s almost the only way I see us scoring.

All our midfielders are possession players. I’d love to have a risk taker.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Yesterday at 12:42 AM
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harvey098 said:
I don’t think our personnel leaves FL many options in terms of formation tbf. I think we’ll see a lot of games like today where we have control and possession whilst being a bit toothless.

I just wish we had a player that could take someone on in the middle of the park and go past them. Our only threat is from width, crossing in for a Rudoni late run into the box. That’s almost the only way I see us scoring.

All our midfielders are possession players. I’d love to have a risk taker.
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I hear Nick Leeson is available on loan
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Yesterday at 1:10 AM
  • #30
Deity said:
They were awful for 80 mins you clown
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Well they had a cutting edge when it mattered most. Baker is always a threat going forward and scored a good goal. Think they had 2 debutants who scored today as well. Anyway, we need to be more direct and mix it up, aside from only slinging crosses.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 6:01 AM
  • #31
Let’s be frank, his win percentage with us is 48%.
 

Balli001

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  • Yesterday at 6:09 AM
  • #32
Fergusons_Beard said:
No I’m NOT calling for his replacement already but…questions need to be asked.

The quite ridiculous sticking to a rigid tactical formation (without changing to another) that clearly wasn’t doing anything against a Hull side clearly there for the taking.

Lack of a pressing system that FL said that he himself would like to adopt. High press and attacking football I think he said-which we have only seen fleetingly.

Leaving a striker on the bench and bringing on a left back as a winger when we clearly need a goal. In fact bringing on a clearly unfit striker in a central role we all know he clearly can’t do and bringing off the one player who looked like he could create something was baffling.

Not advocating anything rash but FL has the whole of the summer to address the tactical side and thinking of alternatives if one system doesn’t work.

Same old ponderous slow build up bollocks-is it the players or the system?

Playing Hull was a perfect opportunity to be a bit more risky and try something different.

I’ve not mentioned recruitment deliberately as that out of FL’s hands. But we clearly need some pace and creativity in this team.

Positives-we didn’t look like conceding and the goalie was bloody brilliant.

Just trying to stimulate some discussion NOT calling for Franks replacement or wetting the bed!

Thoughts?


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Despite the attempted justification it very much sounds like you are wetting the bed
 

bawtryneal

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  • Yesterday at 6:24 AM
  • #33
Can’t wait for you clowns to read this post back in 8 months time.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Yesterday at 6:26 AM
  • #34
Ian Evatt is still available…
 

Hullinho87

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  • Yesterday at 6:29 AM
  • #35
Fergusons_Beard said:
No I’m NOT calling for his replacement already but…questions need to be asked.

The quite ridiculous sticking to a rigid tactical formation (without changing to another) that clearly wasn’t doing anything against a Hull side clearly there for the taking.

Lack of a pressing system that FL said that he himself would like to adopt. High press and attacking football I think he said-which we have only seen fleetingly.

Leaving a striker on the bench and bringing on a left back as a winger when we clearly need a goal. In fact bringing on a clearly unfit striker in a central role we all know he clearly can’t do and bringing off the one player who looked like he could create something was baffling.

Not advocating anything rash but FL has the whole of the summer to address the tactical side and thinking of alternatives if one system doesn’t work.

Same old ponderous slow build up bollocks-is it the players or the system?

Playing Hull was a perfect opportunity to be a bit more risky and try something different.

I’ve not mentioned recruitment deliberately as that out of FL’s hands. But we clearly need some pace and creativity in this team.

Positives-we didn’t look like conceding and the goalie was bloody brilliant.

Just trying to stimulate some discussion NOT calling for Franks replacement or wetting the bed!

Thoughts?


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and we’re off …
 
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