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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 20, 2025
  • #71
Frostie said:
What a season this could be for them...

They're one of the worst teams in PL history, we go up via the Playoffs & Forest get into the Champions League. Beautiful.
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Incredibly they still have double Southampton's points total. What a waste of a top flight spot that was.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 20, 2025
  • #72
Frostie said:
What a season this could be for them...

They're one of the worst teams in PL history, we go up via the Playoffs & Forest get into the Champions League. Beautiful.
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The Leicester fans I know are convinced it'll happen this time around.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 20, 2025
  • #73
Lamps said:
We would go up not expecting much.
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It’s pretty toxic at Southampton who presumably expected even less!
 

Lamps

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #74
SBT said:
It’s pretty toxic at Southampton who presumably expected even less!
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Just like Leicester they expected much more.

After our last 25 years our expectations would be lower. Hopefully we could get over the constant defeats and enjoy the moment because it can get toxic very quickly with constant defeats.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #75
We’d be calling for Lampards head come October.
 
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Lamps

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #76
shmmeee said:
We’d be calling for Lampards head come October.
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Only those without a clue would.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #77
Lamps said:
Only those without a clue would.
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Took ten games of bad form for us to turn on Robins and he was the longest serving, most successful and most well liked manager in my lifetime.
 
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Lamps

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #78
shmmeee said:
Took ten games of bad form for us to turn on Robins and he was the longest serving, most successful and most well liked manager in my lifetime.
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Took some. Many still backed him.

But playing at Prem level should mean everyone being more realistic.
 
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edgy

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #79
Lamps said:
Took some. Many still backed him.

But playing at Prem level should mean everyone being more realistic.
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Robinshio

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #80
Nearly 11 hours without a home goal or point. I remember our forum early January with people speculating on the season ticket drop off for next season. 2 months later we are getting record gates. We are as fickle as the rest. Only the 7k who followed to league 2 are guaranteed
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #81
Lamps said:
Took some. Many still backed him.

But playing at Prem level should mean everyone being more realistic.
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I wonder if a mid season takeover and new manager wouldn’t be on the cards anyway. I strongly suspect Doug doesn’t want to keep us longer than necessary.
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #82
If we don’t go up it’s going to be an easy 6 points for us
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #83
shmmeee said:
Took ten games of bad form for us to turn on Robins and he was the longest serving, most successful and most well liked manager in my lifetime.
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Well, for a small number of us. Most were still behind him.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #84
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well, for a small number of us. Most were still behind him.
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Not the one that matters though.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #85
shmmeee said:
Not the one that matters though.
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Ah you meant the club. We were also in very bad form for a similar stretch in 23/24, the club stuck with him.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #86
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Ah you meant the club. We were also in very bad form for a similar stretch in 23/24, the club stuck with him.
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I backed him then and when he was dismissed. My low moment came in L1. We lost away at Shrewsbury and I couldn't see how he was going to turn it around. He did and I'm grateful. It was because of that, why I was always prepared to believe we could turn it again and if you look at all the successful teams, in recent times, they have longevity and the manager is usually in for a number of window. I'd give Lampard the same support even if we lost every game in the Prem, knowing we'd be stronger the season after and with parachute payments too.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #87
rob9872 said:
I backed him then and when he was dismissed. My low moment came in L1. We lost away at Shrewsbury and I couldn't see how he was going to turn it around. He did and I'm grateful. It was because of that, why I was always prepared to believe we could turn it again and if you look at all the successful teams, in recent times, they have longevity and the manager is usually in for a number of window. I'd give Lampard the same support even if we lost every game in the Prem, knowing we'd be stronger the season after and with parachute payments too.
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That run of form in 23/24 would have cost most Championship managers their job, not because it’s right, just because that’s the nature of the league. King gave him more time and was justified in the end.

This season I thought he deserved more time, King this time did not and by any measure, his decision was justified. It was perhaps even what MR himself needed.
 
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jas365

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #88
Gynnsthetonic said:
Apparently they've already had their parachute payments selling the rights to Maquarie Bank
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What does this mean exactly Gynn?
 
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Travs

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #89
This illusion that we're a totally different fanbase from Leicester (or indeed anyone else) is complete bollocks.

Historically pretty similar to Leicester..... similar crowds, similar cities, similar history. If we got promoted and have a crap season, the knives will be out for Lampard and King before long.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #90
jas365 said:
What does this mean exactly Gynn?
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They've had it advance,if it's accurate, what have they done with it,who knows?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #91
Travs said:
This illusion that we're a totally different fanbase from Leicester (or indeed anyone else) is complete bollocks.

Historically pretty similar to Leicester..... similar crowds, similar cities, similar history. If we got promoted and have a crap season, the knives will be out for Lampard and King before long.
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Are the knives out for McKenna at Ipswich?
 
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Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #92
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That run of form in 23/24 would have cost most Championship managers their job, not because it’s right, just because that’s the nature of the league. King gave him more time and was justified in the end.

This season I thought he deserved more time, King this time did not and by any measure, his decision was justified. It was perhaps even what MR himself needed.
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I think King had saw the signs the year before and had to act, it was mostly the same squad and they were drifting. King made the right decision for both Robins and the club. Unpopular decision but maybe Robins had reached his ceiling, although not proven yet if Stoke survive it will be interesting to watch them next season to see if he turns them around.
 
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The Great Eastern

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #93
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Are the knives out for McKenna at Ipswich?
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I can only quote the one Ipswich fan I regularly speak to and he is appalled at McKennas tactics. They are seemingly bound to get relegated if they carry on playing the way they currently are. Tried to explain to him that becoming a yo-yo team isnt the end of the world. I strongly suspect he had visions of Ipswich repeating the brilliant season under George Burley where they qualified for the UEFA cup 1st season after promotion. Was never, ever going to happen this time round despite their spending on new players.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #94
The Great Eastern said:
I can only quote the one Ipswich fan I regularly speak to and he is appalled at McKennas tactics. They are seemingly bound to get relegated if they carry on playing the way they currently are. Tried to explain to him that becoming a yo-yo team isnt the end of the world. I strongly suspect he had visions of Ipswich repeating the brilliant season under George Burley where they qualified for the UEFA cup 1st season after promotion. Was never, ever going to happen this time round despite their spending on new players.
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Going from League 1 to the Prem in straight seasons is an incredibly tough ask in itself, never mind staying there. They haven't disgraced themselves and I imagine most of their fans are still behind him.
 
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Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #95
shmmeee said:
I wonder if a mid season takeover and new manager wouldn’t be on the cards anyway. I strongly suspect Doug doesn’t want to keep us longer than necessary.
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Could well be. The only plans we know of from King is to get promoted. But new owner getting rid of Lampard
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #96
jas365 said:
What does this mean exactly Gynn?
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https://archive.ph/BVKrW

List of outstanding charges on companies house. As I understand it, Macquarie loan Leics money up front that they would have received in later installments of a transfer. At a hefty interest rate I suspect.

LEICESTER CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED charges - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

LEICESTER CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED - Free company information from Companies House including registered office address, filing history, accounts, annual return, officers, charges, business activity
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk

This is one of the outstanding charges, which I assume relates to Timothy Castagne who moved to Fulham on August 29, 2023 for £13m. So Leics will get f all on 31st Aug 2025 as that'll go straight to Macquarie to satisfy the charge. Legally of course this is all fine, but I do wonder if they do this as another way of bypassing the PSR rules. It's also kicking the debt's can down the road ofc...

 
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Lamps

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #97
MusicDating said:
https://archive.ph/BVKrW

List of outstanding charges on companies house. As I understand it, Macquarie loan Leics money up front that they would have received in later installments of a transfer. At a hefty interest rate I suspect.

LEICESTER CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED charges - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

LEICESTER CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED - Free company information from Companies House including registered office address, filing history, accounts, annual return, officers, charges, business activity
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk

This is one of the outstanding charges, which I assume relates to Timothy Castagne who moved to Fulham on August 29, 2023 for £13m. So Leics will get f all on 31st Aug 2025 as that'll go straight to Macquarie to satisfy the charge. Legally of course this is all fine, but I do wonder if they do this as another way of bypassing the PSR rules. It's also kicking the debt's can down the road ofc...

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It wouldn't surprise me if they found yet another way of misinterpreting the rules. But the rules should be good enough for this not to help their cheating the system. Loaning the money from a company or owner should be covered in the same way. It should be spent at the same moment. Transfer fees and wages are paid out whatever.

Could be that they have taken a massive gamble on staying up and it has fantastically backfired
 
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Macca1987

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #98
Lamps said:
It wouldn't surprise me if they found yet another way of misinterpreting the rules. But the rules should be good enough for this not to help their cheating the system. Loaning the money from a company or owner should be covered in the same way. It should be spent at the same moment. Transfer fees and wages are paid out whatever.

Could be that they have taken a massive gamble on staying up and it has fantastically backfired
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I hope so, never have I wanted a team to be punished as much
Their bending and playing the rules over time has really pissed me off
Time for a reckoning from the EFL
 
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Lamps

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #99
Macca1987 said:
I hope so, never have I wanted a team to be punished as much
Their bending and playing the rules over time has really pissed me off
Time for a reckoning from the EFL
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They have pissed off both the EFL and the PLFA. Can't see anything but the pair of them getting together to make sure something sticks.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #100
Lamps said:
It wouldn't surprise me if they found yet another way of misinterpreting the rules. But the rules should be good enough for this not to help their cheating the system. Loaning the money from a company or owner should be covered in the same way. It should be spent at the same moment. Transfer fees and wages are paid out whatever.

Could be that they have taken a massive gamble on staying up and it has fantastically backfired
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Is this a kind of repeat of Leeds under Ridsdale and O:Leary?
 

Lamps

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  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #101
wingy said:
Is this a kind of repeat of Leeds under Ridsdale and O:Leary?
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I would say very similar. Leeds need to go up this season, sell or get some serious money from somewhere. But as far as I know they have kept within the rules so far.
 

Covkid1968#

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #102
Living Leics way I have through necessity befriended a number of their fans. and to my great surprise some of them are pretty decent lads...there is though one complete bellend who I would love the whole thing to unravel for. This would give me great pleasure....its already proving to be amusing listening to him and his Mrs, who are both season ticket holders, bemoaning just how unfair it all is. I nearly spat my pint out laughing when he said he was getting behind a Vardy to be manager campaign. Listening to that just fills my heart with joy...

At my previous local in South leics there was an even bigger bellend...he was the numpty who ran on the pitch and gobbed off to the Tottenham goalkeeper many years ago. I plan to get back down to South Leics to go and have a pint in my old local just to take the enjoyment to the next level.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #103
Macca1987 said:
I hope so, never have I wanted a team to be punished as much
Their bending and playing the rules over time has really pissed me off
Time for a reckoning from the EFL
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So reading a bit more into this, I don't think it's interest bearing, more that Macquarie have loaned Leics less than the money they'll receive from other clubs installments/EPL monies. eg so they sold Maddison for £40m, Macquarie gives them £35m up front and then waits to receive the £40m over time in the planned installments.

Seems like it gets around a loan from the owners which would fall under PSR.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #104
MusicDating said:
https://archive.ph/BVKrW

List of outstanding charges on companies house. As I understand it, Macquarie loan Leics money up front that they would have received in later installments of a transfer. At a hefty interest rate I suspect.

LEICESTER CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED charges - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

LEICESTER CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED - Free company information from Companies House including registered office address, filing history, accounts, annual return, officers, charges, business activity
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk

This is one of the outstanding charges, which I assume relates to Timothy Castagne who moved to Fulham on August 29, 2023 for £13m. So Leics will get f all on 31st Aug 2025 as that'll go straight to Macquarie to satisfy the charge. Legally of course this is all fine, but I do wonder if they do this as another way of bypassing the PSR rules. It's also kicking the debt's can down the road ofc...

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The most recent charge is from January 2025, it's obviously not referred to in the accounts. Interesting that they're still borrowing money against future income, it surely can't end well for them. KP is struggling for cashflow apparently, which is probably why they're having to lend money from third parties. I'd imagine their fancy training ground and academy is mortgaged up now.
 
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Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 21, 2025
  • #105
MusicDating said:
So reading a bit more into this, I don't think it's interest bearing, more that Macquarie have loaned Leics less than the money they'll receive from other clubs installments/EPL monies. eg so they sold Maddison for £40m, Macquarie gives them £35m up front and then waits to receive the £40m over time in the planned installments.

Seems like it gets around a loan from the owners which would fall under PSR.
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Unless they have worked out another way to beat the rules that are set in black and white it shouts of desperation for cash.

Clubs are only allowed to spend money that corresponds with their income. Getting transfer fees early doesn't give them a higher turnover. All it does is gives a boost to the bank balance in the short term.

Remember when we turned down an offer for Hyam but then accepted a lower bid for him that was cash on the nail under SISU?

It's reasons like this that I think they're in a financial mess after gambling all to stay in the Prem to get away from the sanctions due.....unless they have a new plan on how to beat them.

Whatever happens next is going to be interesting. I just hope the cheating barstoods get what they deserve.
 
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