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Leicester At It Yet Again! (2 Viewers)

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Lamps

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #876
Para1140 said:
Piss take EFL bottled it
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Too early to call. They will be over for last season and most probably this season as well. They have stated clearly that the punishment is up to 2023/24. The best they can dream about is staying in the Championship.

They could well be starting next season with a points deduction, and with nothing changing another one in the waiting. Even if their skint owner comes up with many millions they wouldn't be able to spend them without any more contraventions of the rules.

It's similar to death by a thousand cuts and I'm enjoying it.
 

shepardo01

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #877
A bit more;
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #878
shepardo01 said:
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They should’ve told that any ridiculous appeal will mean extra punishment.
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #879
Would Sheffield -18 Wednesday have a gripe with this, how does their case differ
 
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shepardo01

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #880
Slim Shady;
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #881
The king of Rap!
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #882
Lamps said:
Ipswich have the Prem money. Birmingham and Wrexham have only just come into the Championship rules and are well in the clear at the moment.
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Wrexham are never breaching these rules? They haven’t overspent a penny.
 

HadjiChippo

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #883
Piss take, EFL didn’t want to be responsible for relegating them by giving them the punishment they’re due.

luckily the team is so shite, they’ll still get relegated this season.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #884
The obsession with Leicester is embarrassing
 
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jim20

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #885
It seems a bit of a let off, teams going into admin get 12 points. Teams cheating the rules only 6!
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #886
Grendel said:
The obsession with Leicester is embarrassing
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Come on Grendel…..The day we get sanitised football rivalry where people don’t mock the misfortune of a local team then God help us…. This is exactly why we love it!!! We give it and we take it… and it adds to the atmosphere when we play each other!!
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #887
jim20 said:
It seems a bit of a let off, teams going into admin get 12 points. Teams cheating the rules only 6!
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That supports the argument for 6 points
 

PaulPUSB

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #888
shepardo01 said:
Slim Shady;

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Amazing

Sent from my SM-A176B using Tapatalk
 
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ccfc1292

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #889
Their fans pissing themselves it's only 6 points on Twitter they are praying they don't appeal it, but believe the EPL can?
 

Major Tom

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #890
Question has to be Leicester won't be the last so what is the fair way forward for all clubs. The rules have been brought in to manage financial inequality, but are in realty equally unenforceable. How wealthy the club is and the quality of the lawyers they can employ drives the outcome which in itself is unfair. The same as any business outside of football.

For Coventry - After seasons of financial mismanagement going back to our premiership years I'm happy to see us settle for the middle ground of success through steady progress and a financially responsible mindset, if we do get promoted i'm a nervous that the temptation to aim high will be a tough challenge.
The only caveat is that as a club and support we are the healthiest we've been for years, with sell out crowds and income guaranteed if we go up. It just needs the owner and manager to deliver without breaking the club.
 
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Travs

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #891
StrettoBoy said:
I have been on the Leicester fans forum. The overwhelming feeling is one of relief that they have got off lightly.

Too right.

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Its definitely lenient.

Getting a meagre deduction a couple of seasons later.

Will be justified only if they go down (which i don't think they will)

The piss-poor deduction isn't Leicester's fault though.... its symptomatic of football.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #892
skybluelee said:
Hopefully a new manager bounce kicks in and they help us out at Portman Road and the Riverside.

Followed by a 20 point deduction.
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Well at least they've got something to play for now, they've got to get some results to stay out of the relegation zone
 
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Ashdown

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #893
Can’t stand these Cov hating types but…it has to be said …..Man City and Chelsea really …….
 

fatso

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  • Feb 5, 2026
  • #894
So for 3 years of blatant cheating they get docked a measly pathetic 6 points?
Just 2 points per season?

If thats all the dock is, then that's no deterant to any other club. If you have the investor you may as well buy yourself out of this division, then take a pathetic 6 points deduction 3 years down the line.
 
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Lamps

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #895
Para1140 said:
Piss take EFL bottled it
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I take it you do know that the final decision wasn't made by the EFL....

The EFL wanted a 12 points deduction and Leicester wanted just a fine. To me it looks like they met in the middle to try and keep everyone happy.
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #896
Lamps said:
I take it you do know that the final decision wasn't made by the EFL....

The EFL wanted a 12 points deduction and Leicester wanted just a fine. To me it looks like they met in the middle to try and keep everyone happy.
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Pretty sure these things don't boil down to 'trying to keep everyone happy'
 
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torchomatic

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #897
Potbellypig said:
Pretty sure these things don't boil down to 'trying to keep everyone happy'
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True. Middle ground to stamp out a chance of a protracted appeal process.

Twelve points then Leicester most likely would have appealed. Six? That'll do nicely.
 

Frostie

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #898
To blatantly cheat for years on end, giving you an unfair advantage over other clubs, only to still end up with a team that is utter shite really does take some doing.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #899
I’ve always said these rules shouldn’t be in place at all - it’s ridiculous and there is no actual fixed number a committee arrives at.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #900
Grendel said:
I’ve always said these rules shouldn’t be in place at all - it’s ridiculous and there is no actual fixed number a committee arrives at.
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agreed, hamstringing clubs effectively puts a ceiling on them. My only change of rules would be that owners can't levy loans against the club.

If i was a billionaire and wanted to spunk 500m on coventry i should be able to.

I'm alright with 6 points, means they're in the precarious position where they have to play for every point... starting with middlesbrough and ipswich.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #901
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
agreed, hamstringing clubs effectively puts a ceiling on them. My only change of rules would be that owners can't levy loans against the club.

If i was a billionaire and wanted to spunk 500m on coventry i should be able to.

I'm alright with 6 points, means they're in the precarious position where they have to play for every point... starting with middlesbrough and ipswich.
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Up until the 2000s when tycoons started pumping money in on a colossal scale, clubs would become dominant for a little while, then get knocked off their perch by another who in turn got knocked off, and so on. Clubs could win the top flight straight after promotion from the second tier, and the league title in general was won by a wide variety of clubs.

The dominance clubs got from being well managed and building excellent teams laid the gauntlet down to others to try and do better. I get people like G and yourself are fine with allowing these characters to come and pour billions in, blow wages and transfer fees beyond all proportion and for us to sing their praises, but we can't then turn around and ask 'how did this happen?' when clubs fly too close to the sun and go under or plummet down the leagues from mismanagement.

Fans in Germany wouldn't swap their system for ours even with Bayern's dominance, and with good reason. If English football is basically just 'who has the richest tycoon', where's the fun? Where's the entertainment in that?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #902
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Up until the 2000s when tycoons started pumping money in on a colossal scale, clubs would become dominant for a little while, then get knocked off their perch by another who in turn got knocked off, and so on. Clubs could win the top flight straight after promotion from the second tier, and the league title in general was won by a wide variety of clubs.

The dominance clubs got from being well managed and building excellent teams laid the gauntlet down to others to try and do better. I get people like G and yourself are fine with allowing these characters to come and pour billions in, blow wages and transfer fees beyond all proportion and for us to sing their praises, but we can't then turn around and ask 'how did this happen?' when clubs fly too close to the sun and go under or plummet down the leagues from mismanagement.

Fans in Germany wouldn't swap their system for ours even with Bayern's dominance, and with good reason. If English football is basically just 'who has the richest tycoon', where's the fun? Where's the entertainment in that?
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But thats why I'd caveat it. The reasons for the financial issues is generally because the money is leveraged in the form of loans - almost blackmail. It needs to be gifted to put a ceiling on owner spending, rather than an arbitrary figure.

The current financial system for instance is hamstringing Newcastle, they cannot earn more because the CL recognises "legacy" when putting reward money out. hence why United got got more money than Newcastle despite Newcastle winning more games a few years back - Same with Villa last year. It keeps the status quo.

Now in terms of Germany - their culture is different to ours. They see a somewhat trickle down effect of players and talent. But the culture is of "strong Germany" "strong club team" - We'd shit on every other club to win something, now its detriment to England but we're more club orientated than Germany.
 
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Travs

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #903
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Up until the 2000s when tycoons started pumping money in on a colossal scale, clubs would become dominant for a little while, then get knocked off their perch by another who in turn got knocked off, and so on. Clubs could win the top flight straight after promotion from the second tier, and the league title in general was won by a wide variety of clubs.

The dominance clubs got from being well managed and building excellent teams laid the gauntlet down to others to try and do better. I get people like G and yourself are fine with allowing these characters to come and pour billions in, blow wages and transfer fees beyond all proportion and for us to sing their praises, but we can't then turn around and ask 'how did this happen?' when clubs fly too close to the sun and go under or plummet down the leagues from mismanagement.

Fans in Germany wouldn't swap their system for ours even with Bayern's dominance, and with good reason. If English football is basically just 'who has the richest tycoon', where's the fun? Where's the entertainment in that?
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I think the problem is, the horse has already bolted and its now a closed shop.... a "Leicester" might come along every 15 years or so and win the league, but look whats happened to them... the clubs at the top now have shut the door on everyone else as they don't want anyone to spoil their party.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #904
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
But thats why I'd caveat it. The reasons for the financial issues is generally because the money is leveraged in the form of loans - almost blackmail. It needs to be gifted to put a ceiling on owner spending, rather than an arbitrary figure.

The current financial system for instance is hamstringing Newcastle, they cannot earn more because the CL recognises "legacy" when putting reward money out. hence why United got got more money than Newcastle despite Newcastle winning more games a few years back - Same with Villa last year. It keeps the status quo.

Now in terms of Germany - their culture is different to ours. They see a somewhat trickle down effect of players and talent. But the culture is of "strong Germany" "strong club team" - We'd shit on every other club to win something, now its detriment to England but we're more club orientated than Germany.
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German football culture modelled itself on how English football used to be. They kept that going, we sold out to the highest bidder.

We wouldn’t have had SISU coming in and ruining our club for a start.
 

StrettoBoy

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #905
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I'm alright with 6 points, means they're in the precarious position where they have to play for every point... starting with middlesbrough and ipswich.
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Good point
 

StrettoBoy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #906
This goes some way towards explaining why the deduction was six point.

Leicester City points deduction: Championship club docked six points for breaching EFL's profit and sustainability rules

Leicester City now sit 20th in the Championship, outside the relegation zone on only goal difference, after being deducted six points; club found to have breach the EFLs profit and sustainability rules for the 2023/24 season
www.skysports.com
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #907
Brighton Sky Blue said:
German football culture modelled itself on how English football used to be. They kept that going, we sold out to the highest bidder.

We wouldn’t have had SISU coming in and ruining our club for a start.
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But again we've jumped from that, We don't have the pull together for the greater good that Germany has. its effectively the Club v Country row. I'd 100% take promotion this year over England scoring a goal in the world cup, in fact i'd take promotion over England qualifying for another world cup in my lifetime.

as a nation, we're too insular, and we (Coventry City) were central figures in the reason it has become like this.

I'd also argue that SISU were symptom, of our problem - our rot set in long before they stepped foot in the city.
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #908
I reckon football will become like the NHS in the long-term,bloated with bureaucrat's, getting huge Govt assistance grants for build's etc, just to keep it turning,sell another advertising slot, carry on.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #909
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
But again we've jumped from that, We don't have the pull together for the greater good that Germany has. its effectively the Club v Country row. I'd 100% take promotion this year over England scoring a goal in the world cup, in fact i'd take promotion over England qualifying for another world cup in my lifetime.

as a nation, we're too insular, and we (Coventry City) were central figures in the reason it has become like this.

I'd also argue that SISU were symptom, of our problem - our rot set in long before they stepped foot in the city.
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It's not about club v country, it's about not wanting clubs to whore themselves out to the highest bidder and blow wages and transfer fees up to insanity.
 

alexccfc99

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  • Feb 6, 2026
  • #910
6 points is a genuine insult to clubs such as ours, Pompey, Sheff Weds etc. who fell on hard times and had double digits in points taken away from them - As opposed to this lot who blatantly cheated and fiddled every rule possible

If there is any form of poetic justice in football they will be relegated this season
 
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