skybluecam
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2nd in the league and won the cup, that's certainly not bad?
2nd in the league and won the cup, that's certainly not bad?It really wasn’t quite successful. They failed to reach the group stage of the Champions’ League, failed to win the Dutch league and he fell out with club coaches and players. He resigned before the last game (and before they had secured their champs league spot for the next season) citing a lack of backing.
Totally agree, it is a risk for those reasons, however the experience could be resolved with an adequate number two at his side.I'd see Carsley as a bigger gamble due to lack of experience of league management.
I think it's a pretty big difference that RvN has actually managed a club for a season and been quite successful.
No one said that’s the only reason
The Dutch equivalent of 'The Barnsley Boys'?Six players allegedly went to the club management behind Van Nistelrooij's back to express their dissatisfaction.
The group of players is said to have had serious doubts about Van Nistelrooy's performance. There was also talk about Van Nistelrooy's troubled relationship with his assistants Ooijer and Rutten. This is said to have had a negative impact on the atmosphere within the team for a long time."
The Dutch equivalent of 'The Barnsley Boys'?
You dont get to be involved with England in any shape or form unless you are decent. His experience with the younger players would be immense. I think he would be a great fit for our model
None of the options are good, let's be truthfully honest.
This whole thing is depressing the fuck out of me.
The main concern with Carsley is that managing in international football is a completely different animal to managing at club level.
We therefore have zero idea as to whether it would work out with him or not.
Who cares?In international terms its 1 below the European championship .
It also keeps us playing against top opposition instead of being relegated and playing second rate teams like we are now
There probably is a risk with every manager, yes, but at least with club managers, you know they have managed at club level.Isnt there a risk with every manager?
Look at Sunderland, they employed Regis Le Bris, an unknown who had just suffered a relegation in France. so far he hasn't done too bad.
We have to find the right fit for our club.
There probably is a risk with every manager, yes, but at least with club managers, you know they have managed at club level.
International football is completely different and you are not working with players on a day to day basis, or constantly having to do your homework and prepare for your next opponent week after week.
You also have a much bigger pool of players to choose from and can change your entire side pretty much every game if you want.
It is totally different
Me ?Who cares?
Yeah. I can see how he fits on many levels.I'm not saying it isn't different (although Carsley has coached within club structures, as well as England) what's more important is getting the right fit for our club.
You've never seen coventry beat a press ?I wouldn’t mind Carsley purely because I’ve never seen a Cov side try to play like this in my lifetime.
Not with that kind of bravery.You've never seen coventry beat a press ?
Well we've done it several times this season already ?Not with that kind of bravery.
Imagine Latibeaudiere and Bobby Thomas trying to do thatI wouldn’t mind Carsley purely because I’ve never seen a Cov side try to play like this in my lifetime.
Might have to start Binks and KitchingImagine Latibeaudiere and Bobby Thomas trying to do that
I genuinely can’t believe that some are listing being local as a reason for him to get the job ffs.
None of the options are good, let's be truthfully honest.
This whole thing is depressing the fuck out of me.
I genuinely can’t believe that some are listing being local as a reason for him to get the job ffs.
Behind closed doors matches is the way forward.Lowers out carbon footprint, ainnit!
I heard Edward and Tubbs are providing consultancy.Give it to Clive and Oggy till the end of the season
True. Whereas with all of the others, we can be 100% certain that it may or may not work.The main concern with Carsley is that managing in international football is a completely different animal to managing at club level.
We therefore have zero idea as to whether it would work out with him or not.
Isnt there a risk with every manager?
Look at Sunderland, they employed Regis Le Bris, an unknown who had just suffered a relegation in France. so far he hasn't done too bad.
We have to find the right fit for our club.
Give it to Clive and Oggy till the end of the season
Load the deck in your favour? Can't see us bringing that many more players in.Of course every appointment is a risk, but for me you have to load the deck in your favour, so a manager who has club experience at some level. Also, Carsley is only used to working with the cream of the crop.
If it is him then fair enough I'd back him, but he certainly wouldn't be my choice.
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