Brighton Sky Blue
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I’ve seen a few of them wanting 5 at the back because their defence isn’t good enough with 4. I mean if the problem is the players themselves aren’t up to it then just having more of them isn’t the answer surely?
I might have agreed, had they not got a defence that seems totally inept. They have a few youngsters playing - including a lad called Doyle from Man City, who by all accounts has had his confidence shattered, yet they either won't or can't drop him (don't know if they take a financial hit from Man City?) Also a left back called Cirkin, plus Corry Evans who get absolute pelters on their forum (Shippers x 10)
Sunderland really seem to have hit the self-destruct button.
Can argue the rights and wrongs of sacking their previous manager... reading their forum it seems that losing 6-0 to Bolton was "unacceptable" and was the final straw for many... but from the outside, they were around 3rd place and i think he would have kept them in the playoffs at least.
Now that is looking by no means guaranteed, and automatic has gone.
When we dropped down, it took a number of years before the fans realised that being a bigger name in the lower divisions doesn't actually mean anything, nor guarantee you the right to be fighting for promotion... i don't think the majority of Sunderland fans have reached that understanding yet.... "tinpot", "shit league" "shit clubs" pervades all over their forum.
They'll get up when their performances deserve it, and on that basis only.
I’ve seen a few of them wanting 5 at the back because their defence isn’t good enough with 4. I mean if the problem is the players themselves aren’t up to it then just having more of them isn’t the answer surely?
I might have agreed, had they not got a defence that seems totally inept. They have a few youngsters playing - including a lad called Doyle from Man City, who by all accounts has had his confidence shattered, yet they either won't or can't drop him (don't know if they take a financial hit from Man City?) Also a left back called Cirkin, plus Corry Evans who get absolute pelters on their forum (Shippers x 10)
Their fans need to step back, & be patient and forget what’s happening up the road at Newcastle and that’s their problem.
Met Alex Neil just over a week ago. Nice bloke. Hoping he does well.
To be fair, most of their fans don't obsess over Newcastle, it's more a case of having crowds in the high 20k to low 30ks, have supposed rich owners, yet season after season managing to have teams with much lower budgets / fans attending / income finishing above them. We'd feel exactly the same. I remember when Burton got promoted above us, and wondering how they were outperforming us as a club, given their minimal resources.
I think that about Stoke City when we played them in the FA cup 2018 we were league 2 and they were in the Prem and I thought then how far away in terms of stature we were, but they then got relegated we got promoted twice and now we sit above them in the table, funny old game!In our first L1 season Yeovil got promoted. Now back among the non league also rans. Funny old game
I Come out of that game thinking, once we’re up to full fitness we’ll piss this leagueI was at the first L1 game, Yeovil away... our fans singing "we'll never play you again" after we went a goal up inside 10mins... i did think that song was a little premature!
I think that about Stoke City when we played them in the FA cup 2018 we were league 2 and they were in the Prem and I thought then how far away in terms of stature we were, but they then got relegated we got promoted twice and now we sit above them in the table, funny old game!
Dirty LeedsBigger clubs have fallen further than that lot…can you think of any?
I was reading a bit of their forum over the weekend... seems they've got some Director Of Football team in place.... not 100% following who they are, and the fans seem to be "hoying shit" at everyone... players, managers, director of football, owners.... but the Director Of Football team appear to be very unpopular.
Sunderland are the only team not pulling their weight in my promotion treble at the minute.
Fulham to win the league, Sunderland &. Exeter to go up. Tenner returns a grand. Another reason to hate them.
Doyle is highly regarded at Man City, so I expect there is a clause in the loan agreement that "if fit...he plays".I might have agreed, had they not got a defence that seems totally inept. They have a few youngsters playing - including a lad called Doyle from Man City, who by all accounts has had his confidence shattered, yet they either won't or can't drop him (don't know if they take a financial hit from Man City?) Also a left back called Cirkin, plus Corry Evans who get absolute pelters on their forum (Shippers x 10)
Save you having to look at their forum -Sunderland really seem to have hit the self-destruct button.
Can argue the rights and wrongs of sacking their previous manager... reading their forum it seems that losing 6-0 to Bolton was "unacceptable" and was the final straw for many... but from the outside, they were around 3rd place and i think he would have kept them in the playoffs at least.
Now that is looking by no means guaranteed, and automatic has gone.
When we dropped down, it took a number of years before the fans realised that being a bigger name in the lower divisions doesn't actually mean anything, nor guarantee you the right to be fighting for promotion... i don't think the majority of Sunderland fans have reached that understanding yet.... "tinpot", "shit league" "shit clubs" pervades all over their forum.
They'll get up when their performances deserve it, and on that basis only.
Doyle is highly regarded at Man City, so I expect there is a clause in the loan agreement that "if fit...he plays".
Yes there is a long list of sometime-Premier League teams who have fallen into League One (or lower), including the followingDidn’t Man City also dip right down ?
I thought the Mighty Coventry City into league 2 after several seasons in L1.Dirty Leeds
Swansea like us and Wolves went all the way to the fourth tier from the top tier but pre Premier League days.Yes there is a long list of sometime-Premier League teams who have fallen into League One (or lower), including the following
Portsmouth
Wigan
Bradford
Ipswich
Sheff W
Sheff U
Cov
Hull
Southampton
Leicester
Barnsley
Man City
Oldham
Norwich
Blackpool
Charlton
Wimbledon/MK Dons
Leeds
Sunderland
Bolton
QPR
Nottingham Forest
Blackburn
Swindon
Wolves
That's all I can think of but somebody will probably point out a few more
Luton and Notts County went to non-league having been top-flight in the late 80s/early 90s. Millwall were also top flight a couple of seasons pre-PL and later fell to League One.Swansea like us and Wolves went all the way to the fourth tier from the top tier but pre Premier League days.
Luton and Notts County relegated the season before the inaugural PL seasonLuton and Notts County went to non-league having been top-flight in the late 80s/early 90s. Millwall were also top flight a couple of seasons pre-PL and later fell to League One.
Also Oxford were in the top flight a little further back (beating United 2-0 in Fergie's first game as manager in 1986-87) and later found themselves in non-league for a while.Luton and Notts County relegated the season before the inaugural PL season
Far Fletch replied:weird to think we now have 2 players on the pitch who played for us in the premier
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