Last night's Trust meeting (1 Viewer)

Anyone mention scarves idea?

What beer were you drinking Michael? Got some decent stuff on tap in there haven't they? (Assuming it was at the Squirrel)

Kebab on the way home?

Colly 50p a drink?

Michael re scarves, surely the Trust is in a good position to fund the scarves idea. They also have the ability to sell them at meetings. A few new faces may attend at least one meeting just to buy the scarves. Just a thought?

hill83 said:

Kebab on the way home?

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MichaelCCFC said:

After several pints post meeting and not having taken any notes I'm not sure my recollection of last night is that good so would be grateful if anyone else who was there could clarify if the following is correct/misses anything important

About 40/45 people attended; proposal about fan representation raised concerns about whether it applied to sisu or new owners only and the word 'new' was dropped; the proposal on boycott, contacting sisu investors, pressure on FL and petition was deferred till October because it would be "dangerous" to do it now; if an agreement is reached "it will still take several months"; there was a bit of a bicker about an alleged secret meeting with Seppala; Board members were thanked for all their work over the last year especially with the march which was a great success; "more aggressive action will be considered if not back at Ricoh for new season and sisu continue their intransigent position"; there might be a coach to the hill for the Cardiff game.

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So all in all - another waste of time.

skybluebeduff said:

Standard.

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Plus if you don't finish it, it gets left in the microwave "for tomorrow".
It never gets eaten tomorrow but you never learn.

LB87ccfc said:

So all in all - another waste of time.

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Your positivity is shining through again

dongonzalos said:

Your positivity is shining through again

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Hard to be positive when they just delay everything which should be happening now.. again.

MichaelCCFC said:

After several pints post meeting and not having taken any notes I'm not sure my recollection of last night is that good so would be grateful if anyone else who was there could clarify if the following is correct/misses anything important

About 40/45 people attended; proposal about fan representation raised concerns about whether it applied to sisu or new owners only and the word 'new' was dropped; the proposal on boycott, contacting sisu investors, pressure on FL and petition was deferred till October because it would be "dangerous" to do it now; if an agreement is reached "it will still take several months"; there was a bit of a bicker about an alleged secret meeting with Seppala; Board members were thanked for all their work over the last year especially with the march which was a great success; "more aggressive action will be considered if not back at Ricoh for new season and sisu continue their intransigent position"; there might be a coach to the hill for the Cardiff game.

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For anyone that wants to take a look I tweeted a rough commentary as we went along from my own account (couldn't get into the SBT one on my Mac for some reason).

mark82 said:

Anyone mention scarves idea?

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What scarves?

CJ_covblaze said:

For anyone that wants to take a look I tweeted a rough commentary as we went along from my own account (couldn't get into the SBT one on my Mac for some reason).



What scarves?

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http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/47095-quot-Protest-quot-Scarves

MichaelCCFC said:

Adnams @ Town Wall Tavern and no mention of scarves (in pub or at meeting)

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Town Wall Tavern eh? Many happy memories of a pint or three in there. Glad to hear it's still going strong - best pint in town in the 70's imo.

WiganSkyBlue said:

Town Wall Tavern eh? Many happy memories of a pint or three in there. Glad to hear it's still going strong - best pint in town in the 70's imo.

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70's was my era in town too, but I don't recall worrying if a pint in one place was better than another, I just drank what was served...

mark82 said:

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/47095-quot-Protest-quot-Scarves

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Wasn't aware of that till now. For Twist 'n' Shout we got given a load of those as an added extra to the 2012 Arsenal scarves. They were the surplus from a Man City order. Sold the lot at the Spurs game. I'll have a look to see who we got them from as we may be able to get a decent deal. I could also talk to the fanzines and Trust from up there. Get a load between us maybe? The more that are ordered the cheaper they become.

Sorry to revert to the original point of this thread. My recollections on the more interesting points, further to Michael's comments are detailed below. I hope these are objective and amplify the issues noted by Michael.

Resolution 1: After discussion particularly centring on whether the Trust would want to block rich owners if they didn't consent to meaningful supporter representation, general assent was given to this proposal, with the minor amendment to encompass current as well as potential future owners. Passed.

Resolution 2: deferred to a future meeting (October 2014) by Bruce Walker (proposer) after consultation with Trust Board members in view of on-going developments, particularly the outcome of discussions at the Football League on 7th August, which could be impaired by passing the motion at this time. Discussions moved into 'Open Forum' section of meeting, some reservations about 'call for complete boycott' otherwise no obvious dissenting voices and Bruce put forward good arguments in support of the Resolution. A suggestion to sub-divide the Resolution, so the 4 key elements could be considered individually, seemed to meet with general approval.

Question for Trust Board from David Johnson (Lamtara 2006): "In the event that there is no return by Coventry City to the Ricoh by the start of the 2014-15 season and assuming that Sisu maintain their usual intransigent approach, will the Trust Board re-consider its policy of engagement with Sisu / Otium in a reasonable manner and adopt more openly, actively critical methods?"
Answer from Steve Brown (Chair) "Yes". Board also to review it's attitude/approach at each monthly Board Meeting.

Further suggestions from DJ for action (assuming no substantial progress before then): at Bradford 'Fix Football' signs for 35th minute + 'We want to go home'; Cardiff at Sixfields: get large numbers on the Hill, possible joint protest with Cardiff Supporters Trust (against Vincent Tan), make enough noise with anything but whistles to drown out TV commentary.
Would Sky Blues Fans who go into Sixfields join in 'Fix Football' signs protest along with Cardiff fans + those on the Hill? [Constructive comments welcome please.]
Meeting including Board seemed generally to approve these ideas. SB commented that he felt it important to get a good turnout on the Hill for the Cardiff game, as long as Board members don't have to do all the work. Suggestion from the Board to run transport to the Hill if sufficient demand, Trust coach going to Bradford still has seats available (contact Gary Stubbs).

Michael Orton congratulated and thanked Board for work done, particularly those who organised the March (round of applause). Referred to excellent speeches by former players and noted that CCFPA had taken vote on stance towards Sixfields, decided that they won't go. Questioned why, if CCFPA can take a vote, Trust Board couldn't do the same re Resolution 2. Then asked why, if Resolution 2 could not be voted on, the meeting was willing to consider 'more aggressive' proposals from David Johnson to commence within 2 days of FL meeting on 07/08 if no return to Ricoh.

Roger Ellis (Secretary) responded on behalf of Board. (My memory is hazy here but essentially stated that the Open Forum discussions are helpful, non-binding and allow flexibility in a developing situation.)
DJ responded that his proposals not only require that there is no clear resolution on return to Ricoh, also that CCFC owners/directors maintain usual intransigent position. As Bradford action would be in support of 'Fix Football' petition started by MO which should benefit the whole of football, not just Coventry City, it can hardly be described as 'aggressive'. [Not sure whether MO was objecting to the proposals for action at Bradford and Cardiff games or just expressing disappointment that Resolution 2 had not moved to a vote.]

The argument re the 'secret meeting' was a point raised by Lionel Bird complaining that he and some other Board Members had not been informed in advance of a meeting attended by SB, RE (& one other?) with Seppala (and Fisher?) which he felt to be disrespectful. LB has resigned from Trust Board. SB stated that he felt he was doing the right thing at the time and still believed it was the right course of action, considering that Trust has repeatedly attempted to engage in constructive dialogue. RE pointed out that a detailed memorandum of that meeting was circulated to Board Members on the same day. LB demanded that the Board adopt a protocol to be adhered to in future to maintain proper transparency, SB committed that it would be discussed at the next Board Meeting.

On the more important discussion re the Town Wall Tavern - in it's hey-day was run by Ray Hoare who formerly had the Greyhound in Much Park Street (sadly lost to the city) and latterly the Greyhound at Sutton Stop, in between times ran the Red Lion at Long Compton in Oxfordshire. Brilliant keeper of real ale (particularly Draught Bass) but could be a miserable cuss. His wife Jo was a brilliant cook, her pies were legendary.

lamtara2006 said:

On the more important discussion re the Town Wall Tavern - in it's hey-day was run by Ray Hoare who formerly had the Greyhound in Much Park Street (sadly lost to the city) and latterly the Greyhound at Sutton Stop, in between times ran the Red Lion at Long Compton in Oxfordshire. Brilliant keeper of real ale (particularly Draught Bass) but could be a miserable cuss. His wife Jo was a brilliant cook, her pies were legendary.

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Had a good Football team as well, half The Matrix Saturday side. I played for them and alongside Jim Holton for a few games when he was relief manager. Ray was a great gaffer of a pub as long as he liked you, I confirm his wife was a great cook.

Hobo said:

Had a good Football team as well, half The Matrix Saturday side. I played for them and alongside Jim Holton for a few games when he was relief manager. Ray was a great gaffer of a pub as long as he liked you, I confirm his wife was a great cook.

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I got on really well with Ray for many years and was a regular at most of his pubs, even visited him and Jo in Long Compton a couple of times ... but he eventually managed to alienate most of my mates.

lamtara2006 said:

I got on really well with Ray for many years and was a regular at most of his pubs, even visited him and Jo in Long Compton a couple of times ... but he eventually managed to alienate most of my mates.

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Never had at problem with him either, but he could be contrary. .

lamtara2006 said:

I got on really well with Ray for many years and was a regular at most of his pubs, even visited him and Jo in Long Compton a couple of times ... but he eventually managed to alienate most of my mates.

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" I got on really well with Ray Hoare" You must be one ,easy going fella