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  • Start date Nov 21, 2024
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nunchuckas

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #71
quinn1971 said:
Load of bollocks you don’t bring somebody in and just give them a game the next day, and see how it goes
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But on the other hand, you sack Robins 2 days before Sunderland away and see it how it goes, rather than waiting until after that game when there's a 2 week break...
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #72
I think the reason for the delay is to allow the fans to express their love & affection for Gus Hamer... I know I will be applauding like mad when he scores the 3rd of his hat trick!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #73
quinn1971 said:
rumour, he hasn’t even accepted it
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Which makes the indomitable defence of his dubious managerial record even more bizarre.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #74
nunchuckas said:
But on the other hand, you sack Robins 2 days before Sunderland away and see it how it goes, rather than waiting until after that game when there's a 2 week break...
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Does anyone agree with the timing for Mark? Think most disagree with the sacking but we are where we are.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #75
clint van damme said:
Which makes the indomitable defence of his dubious managerial record even more bizarre.
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He’s never improved a clubs league position
 
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quinn1971

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #76
nunchuckas said:
But on the other hand, you sack Robins 2 days before Sunderland away and see it how it goes, rather than waiting until after that game when there's a 2 week break...
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not quite the same is it, he was getting sacked at some point and the interim normally knows the set up and players, it’s not that different, every new manager/coach gets a few days before a game and they’re always “ in the stands “ for one game, it’ll be after the Burnley game, or maybe even later, which makes perfect sense
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #77
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Does anyone agree with the timing for Mark? Think most disagree with the sacking but we are where we are.
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Well the same man is making the decision on the appointment, so there shouldn't be any reason to delay the announcement (other than protecting Lampard) the short notice before a game shouldn't be a problem!
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #78
quinn1971 said:
not quite the same is it, he was getting sacked at some point and the interim normally knows the set up and players, it’s not that different, every new manager/coach gets a few days before a game and they’re always “ in the stands “ for one game, it’ll be after the Burnley game, or maybe even later, which makes perfect sense
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No, I agree, it's not the same. King was frit scared we were going to go on our usual run from November onwards, so panicked and desperately sacked him after the Derby game in case we battered Sunderland in true CCFC style.

No other reason to do it 2 days before a game when there's a break coming up.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #79
nunchuckas said:
Well the same man is making the decision on the appointment, so there shouldn't be any reasonb to delay the announcement (other than protecting Lampard) the short notice before a game shouldn't be a problem!
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Difference in a manager leaving and one joining tho. Caretakers work with the squad and know the lads.

Joining one needs time especially without preseason. You’d be throwing him to the wolves for no other reason than to do it
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #80
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Difference in a manager leaving and one joining tho. Caretakers work with the squad and know the lads.

Joining one needs time especially without preseason. You’d be throwing him to the wolves for no other reason than to do it
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Waiting 2 days until the international break would be better though?
 
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quinn1971

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #81
nunchuckas said:
No, I agree, it's not the same. King was frit scared we were going to go on our usual run from November onwards, so desperately sacked him after the Derby game in case we battered Sunderland in true CCFC style.
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i Don’t think that teams capable of going on a run this Season, unless the new gaffer can work miracles or gets some major help in January its a mid table season, but after the last 2 seasons I’d of taken that with robins, obviously Doug wasn’t willing to
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #82
quinn1971 said:
i Don’t think that teams capable of going on a run this Season, unless the new gaffer can work miracles or gets some major help in January its a mid table season, but after the last 2 seasons I’d of taken that with robins, obviously Doug wasn’t willing to
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We'll never know, the Middlesbrough win felt like that switch had been flicked, and it's typical Cov to lose against Derby and beat Sunderland to win 3 out of 4. There certainly would have been no harm in waiting. King was clearly desperate to do this. Personally, Robins is allowed a midtable season after 7 years of being consistently brilliant, even Fergie had the odd rebuild season where they didn't win much.

Doug could have at least given him until Christmas and if the usual good run didn't materialse, it would have been a lot more palatable for him to sack him.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #83
nunchuckas said:
Waiting 2 days until the international break would be better though?
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Don’t disagree but one bad decision shouldn’t cause another one
 
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quinn1971

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #84
I’d of thought Edward’s would have gone before robins, they look really in trouble, whatever you think of Doug he’s got some bollocks on him, he’s put his neck on the line and he knows it, could be a genius move, try not to think about if he’s totally fucked up the last 7 years it’s taken robins to give us our club back, could do a lot worse than Lampard
 

ccfc1234

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #85
quinn1971 said:
not quite the same is it, he was getting sacked at some point and the interim normally knows the set up and players, it’s not that different, every new manager/coach gets a few days before a game and they’re always “ in the stands “ for one game, it’ll be after the Burnley game, or maybe even later, which makes perfect sense
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How long does it take to recruit an out of work manager that you were in talks with 2 weeks ago?

Surely if Doug is serious about getting out of this league he would not be waiting until 'after Burnley, or even later' to hand the reigns to transformational manager Lampard? Doug also said many many times at the forum that we 'Have a top 6 or higher deck' so why wait to put your top choice manager in the dugout and in charge of your investment in favour of a coach you publicly said was 'with the greatest respect' not at the level, surely the next couple of games were a free hit?
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #86
quinn1971 said:
I’d of thought Edward’s would have gone before robins, they look really in trouble, whatever you think of Doug he’s got some bollocks on him, he’s put his neck on the line and he knows it, could be a genius move, try not to think about if he’s totally fucked up the last 7 years it’s taken robins to give us our club back, could do a lot worse than Lampard
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I really hope you're right, but it can't help like feeling like a return to the madness/normality of the managerial merry-go-round and lunatic owner days. Hope I'm wrong, but Doug has outed himself as either another nutjob or an unexpected football genius. If/when Lampard is finally appointed, I won't agree with the decision, but I'll still support the team and hope to be proven wrong, I am just very concerned about the direction we're going in based on what I saw supporting this club before Robins.
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #87
Ccfcisparks said:
With Lampard you have to ask why has no club been in for him in the last year he’s been out of work
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Tbf, wasn't MR out of work for 14 months after he left Scunthorpe, before we picked him up ?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #88
Danceswithhorses said:
Tbf, wasn't MR out of work for 14 months after he left Scunthorpe, before we picked him up ?
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Bit different. Lampard is a big name, previously premier league manager who has been in the media quite a bit since his last Chelsea stint.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #89
ccfc1234 said:
How long does it take to recruit an out of work manager that you were in talks with 2 weeks ago?

Surely if Doug is serious about getting out of this league he would not be waiting until 'after Burnley, or even later' to hand the reigns to transformational manager Lampard? Doug also said many many times at the forum that we 'Have a top 6 or higher deck' so why wait to put your top choice manager in the dugout and in charge of your investment in favour of a coach you publicly said was 'with the greatest respect' not at the level, surely the next couple of games were a free hit?
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Think youv’e nailed the problem there “ Doug says we have a top six or higher deck, I don’t know anyone who honestly thinks that, quicker we get a director of football in the better, great businessman but leave the football side to the football people, he said he wasn’t going to rush to bring someone in and he isn’t ? cant just put together a new coach and coaching staff and contracts in a week, that’s if lampards actually agreed to what we’re offering ?
 

ccfc1234

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #90
quinn1971 said:
Think youv’e nailed the problem there “ Doug says we have a top six or higher deck, I don’t know anyone who honestly thinks that, quicker we get a director of football in the better, great businessman but leave the football side to the football people, he said he wasn’t going to rush to bring someone in and he isn’t ? cant just put together a new coach and coaching staff and contracts in a week, that’s if lampards actually agreed to what we’re offering ?
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Austin our recruitment lead who is on the panel for recruitment said it too, which makes sense given he built 'Dougs deck'.

It's been 2 weeks and in all honesty when I heard about Robins going before the international break I thought it was almost a given we would not be managerless 2 weeks later.

Doug is currently in no man's land at CCFC. He has made a sizeable section of the fan base doubt his judgement and a smaller number who want him out for shi$$ing on Mark Robins legacy seemingly without a shred of loyalty or recognition for the success we have had since Doug has been at the club let alone the last 7 year's.

Personally I will support whoever comes in and I want this state of limbo to end. But I respect people in power who have values of honesty, integrity and accountability and I think Doug's disingenuous reasoning for sacking Mark suggests he is lacking a few of those.
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #91
Whoever gets the job should get a clean sheet. People are just over thinking things now based on their perception of who's coming in. As much as we love MR we have to move on.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #92
same here, whoever comes in ( and they’ve got some bollocks as well, replacing robins ) deserves for everyone to get behind him, just don’t see anyone who can turn us into a top 6 this season, praying He’s done the right thing and found the right person,
 
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Deity

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #93
Care in the community has many consequences.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #94
Sky Blue Goblin said:
This is where maybe delaying it till after Sheffield is a clever play.

It’s not Franks fault and he shouldn’t be judge for the owners decision
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He’s not been hired, if the last interview was yesterday, the new manager wouldn’t be appointed today and take charge immediately. The players and coaches would be prepping for this game and Burnley already. Even if the new manager was hired this weekend, it’s probably best to have Rhys Carr take both matches.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #95
Mucca Mad Boys said:
He’s not been hired, if the last interview was yesterday, the new manager wouldn’t be appointed today and take charge immediately. The players and coaches would be prepping for this game and Burnley already. Even if the new manager was hired this weekend, it’s probably best to have Rhys Carr take both matches.
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Taking the football insider page at face value but your right. Think to let him come in and observe for the next two would be how h would do it
 

fatso

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #96
Ccfcisparks said:
With Lampard you have to ask why has no club been in for him in the last year he’s been out of work
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Tbf we don't know what options he may have had.

Maybe he's been waiting for the right club, one that is currently underachieving, and has a decent squad that could quickly be turned into promotion contenders.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 22, 2024
  • #97
Ccfcisparks said:
You have to ask why he’s willing to step down as you say, and why step down to us.

Sunderland, Burnley, Sheffield United, West Brom, Norwich have all looked for managers since he’s been out of work and none of them have gone for him.
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He needs us far more than we need him. As Allerdyce said if he fucks up again he probably won’t get another job.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 23, 2024
  • #98
ccfcchris said:
Whoever gets the job should get a clean sheet. People are just over thinking things now based on their perception of who's coming in. As much as we love MR we have to move on.
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Harshest expectation yet! New manager can't even concede a goal!
 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Nov 23, 2024
  • #99
peteCCFC said:
Is this fact?
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I have no idea.
Was mentioned by someone apparently more ITK than me (tbf that could be anyone)
 

Otis

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  • Nov 23, 2024
  • #100
JimmyHillsbeard said:
I have no idea.
Was mentioned by someone apparently more ITK than me (tbf that could be anyone)
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When I think of ITK's who are more ITK than me, I just think of everyone.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Nov 23, 2024
  • #101
Ccfcisparks said:
Perhaps Lampard can manage the easy games and we can bring Carr back to manage the tough ones to keep Lampard win percentage intact
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You could be on to something here...
 
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Ibby

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  • Nov 24, 2024
  • #102
The skybet next manager bet has gone on the sky blues. So they reckon its lampard.
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Nov 24, 2024
  • #103
Ibby said:
The skybet next manager bet has gone on the sky blues. So they reckon its lampard.
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