Lack of transfer (the myth) (1 Viewer)

stupot07 · Jun 7, 2014

Ok, so I've just had a trawl through the bbc transfer pagers for April, May and June. We are certainly not alone in our lack of transfers. In fact half of the clubs in our league are yet to sign any one.

4 signings: Crawley
3 signings: sheff Utd, gillingham and notts county
2 signings: Bradford,Yeovil, Chesterfield
1 signing: PNE, Peterborough, port vale, MK dons, Fleetwood, Oldham

The rest have not made a signing yet

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Samo · Jun 7, 2014

We haven't signed anyone... so not a myth then.

Otis · Jun 7, 2014

I thought a myth was a female moth.

Samo · Jun 7, 2014

Otis said:
I thought a myth was a female moth.

No that's just a made up story.

6 Generations · Jun 7, 2014

stupot07 said:
Ok, so I've just had a trawl through the bbc transfer pagers for April, May and June. We are certainly not alone in our lack of transfers. In fact half of the clubs in our league are yet to sign any one.

4 signings: Crawley
3 signings: sheff Utd, gillingham and notts county
2 signings: Bradford,Yeovil, Chesterfield
1 signing: PNE, Peterborough, port vale, MK dons, Fleetwood, Oldham

The rest have not made a signing yet

So 55% of teams in our division have made at least 1 signing. The majority.

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skybluetony176 · Jun 7, 2014

Otis said:
I thought a myth was a female moth.

Only until they get married, then they become myth's.

Covstu · Jun 7, 2014

Not sure how its a myth if its current true Stupot!!

Otis · Jun 7, 2014

Samo said:
No that's just a made up story.

What, like the gospels?

Samo · Jun 7, 2014

Otis said:
What, like the gospels?

Well yes

dongonzalos · Jun 7, 2014

stupot07 said:
Ok, so I've just had a trawl through the bbc transfer pagers for April, May and June. We are certainly not alone in our lack of transfers. In fact half of the clubs in our league are yet to sign any one.

4 signings: Crawley
3 signings: sheff Utd, gillingham and notts county
2 signings: Bradford,Yeovil, Chesterfield
1 signing: PNE, Peterborough, port vale, MK dons, Fleetwood, Oldham

The rest have not made a signing yet

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So half the clubs in the league have made signings
So we are in the bottom half of the table for signings surely that is not good

Especially when we are a squad in desperate need of signings

Grendel · Jun 7, 2014

dongonzalos said:
So half the clubs in the league have made signings
So we are in the bottom half of the table for signings surely that is not good

Especially when we are a squad in desperate need of signings

Only 7 clubs have made more than one though.

stupot07 · Jun 7, 2014

Covstu said:
Not sure how its a myth if its current true Stupot!!

I get what you mean but it was more all the doom and gloom that we haven't signed anyone saying we were getting left behind because everyone else signed players, just because we did or didn't miss out on aaron martin, when in fact around half of the clubs in our league haven't signed anyone yet

It's more a.....

Kind of thread. Not to say it won't go Pete tong of course.

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stupot07 · Jun 7, 2014

dongonzalos said:
So half the clubs in the league have made signings
So we are in the bottom half of the table for signings surely that is not good

Especially when we are a squad in desperate need of signings

I believe you don't get bonus points for being top of the signings chart...

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Sky Blues · Jun 7, 2014

dongonzalos said:
So half the clubs in the league have made signings
So we are in the bottom half of the table for signings surely that is not good

Especially when we are a squad in desperate need of signings

It could be interesting to look back on Stu's list at the end of the season and compare where those clubs finished with early signings made.

Yes, I know it won't tell us if early signings correlate to league success and it won't tell us if teams are successful because they made early signings, or whether teams make early signings because they are successful, but it could still be mildly interesting anecdotally.

Sky Blues · Jun 7, 2014

Grendel said:
Only 7 clubs have made more than one though.

It's not like you to shift the goalposts Grendel.

dongonzalos · Jun 7, 2014

Grendel said:
Only 7 clubs have made more than one though.

We haven't made one

dongonzalos · Jun 7, 2014

stupot07 said:
I believe you don't get bonus points for being top of the signings chart...

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Not you just get points later on especially after January when a certain team always runs out of steam

However the point is you proved it is correct and not a myth we are in the bottom half of the signings table.

Come on Sky Blues all we are saying is give Pressley a chance ( feel there is a song in there somewhere.)

dongonzalos · Jun 7, 2014

Sky Blues said:
It could be interesting to look back on Stu's list at the end of the season and compare where those clubs finished with early signings made.

Yes, I know it won't tell us if early signings correlate to league success and it won't tell us if teams are successful because they made early signings, or whether teams make early signings because they are successful, but it could still be mildly interesting anecdotally.

Yeovil are making signings Gary Johnson is a top manager at this level.....

dongonzalos · Jun 7, 2014

However the season they went up Yeovil did not start making their signings till June 15th so I will stop moaning till then.

Sky Blues · Jun 7, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Yeovil are making signings Gary Johnson is a top manager at this level.....

But Yeovil might have a bigger budget than City this year Don...

skybluetony176 · Jun 7, 2014

stupot07 said:
I get what you mean but it was more all the doom and gloom that we haven't signed anyone saying we were getting left behind because everyone else signed players, just because we did or didn't miss out on aaron martin, when in fact around half of the clubs in our league haven't signed anyone yet

It's more a.....

Kind of thread. Not to say it won't go Pete tong of course.

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It's a valid point stupot, half the teams in the league haven't signed anyone yet.

Only problem is more than half the teams in the league didn't finish below us. We also started the season with a better squad than we finished with.

Sky Blue Harry H · Jun 7, 2014

Slight concern is - we have a list of players we are interested in, but we have one of the smaller budgets (don't have the figures, but doesn't take a genius). Suggest our list of players will decrease (Aaron Martin) and we will be looking at the crumbs in the cookie jar by the time we've counted our pennies out. But then again, I'll be happy to be wrong

stupot07 · Jun 7, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Not you just get points later on especially after January when a certain team always runs out of steam

That's more to do with strengthening and freshening the squad in January, than the amount of signings they made before the 7th June

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dongonzalos · Jun 7, 2014

Sky Blues said:
But Yeovil might have a bigger budget than City this year Don...

They should have yes

stupot07 · Jun 7, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
It's a valid point stupot, half the teams in the league haven't signed anyone yet.

Only problem is more than half the teams in the league didn't finish below us. We also started the season with a better squad than we finished with.

That's a different argument that the ongoing going moaning about not yet signing anyone by the 7th June.

We have a lot more to worry and moan about than not signing anyone this early yet.

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dongonzalos · Jun 7, 2014

stupot07 said:
That's more to do with strengthening and freshening the squad in January, than the amount of signings they made before the 7th June

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No in January you tend to get tripe
Do it now and have a big enough squad for the season so we don't get all the usual chopping and changing.

Two players in each position of league one standard plus the kids.

Fingers crossed the club have said that that us their aim.

I appreciate it is early doors now but every year recently it has been the last minute due to something. Just hope this season is different

Sky Blue Pete · Jun 7, 2014

I'm gonna annoy houch now but a myth is not a made up story but more a story within a story to tell a more in depth truth

Kingokings204 · Jun 7, 2014

We are lucky, normally we are in a transfer embargo by now.

At least it's nice We have the choice of signing no one now.

skybluetony176 · Jun 7, 2014

stupot07 said:
That's a different argument that the ongoing going moaning about not yet signing anyone by the 7th June.

We have a lot more to worry and moan about than not signing anyone this early yet.

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Different argument but a valid point. The majority of teams finished above us and the majority of them already have the jump on us in strengthening their squads.

ccfcway · Jun 7, 2014

dongonzalos said:
No in January you tend to get tripe

like League Ones top scorer ?

stupot07 · Jun 7, 2014

dongonzalos said:
No in January you tend to get tripe
Do it now and have a big enough squad for the season so we don't get all the usual chopping and changing.

Two players in each position of league one standard plus the kids.

Fingers crossed the club have said that that us their aim.

I appreciate it is early doors now but every year recently it has been the last minute due to something. Just hope this season is different

I disagree challenging teams who are challenging at the top end do strengthen, wolves did (6 players inc. Clarke and dicko), brentford (7 players), leyton orient (7 players + 2 feb +1 march ), Rotherham (6 players), preston (4 players), Peterborough (2 players inc. 1x £500k + 3 feb + 1 march). 7th place Sheff united also brought in a fair few players too. (Lost the will to look at any others).

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ccfcway · Jun 7, 2014

stupot07 said:
I disagree challenging teams who are challenging at the top end do strengthen, wolves did (6 players inc. Clarke and dicko), brentford (7 players), leyton orient (7 players + 2 feb +1 march ), Rotherham (6 players), preston (4 players), Peterborough (2 players inc. 1x £500k + 3 feb + 1 march). 7th place Sheff united also brought in a fair few players too. (Lost the will to look at any others).

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absolutely !

stupot07 · Jun 7, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
Different argument but a valid point. The majority of teams finished above us and the majority of them already have the jump on us in strengthening their squads.

The flip side is in real terms only 8 teams finished above us if you discount the 10 point deduction, so only a third not the majority performed better than us over a an entire season (yes I know our form nosedived). So from the 5 remaining in our league sheff Utd (4 signings), Peterborough and PNE (1 signing) and leyton orient/Swindon (0 signings).

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stupot07 · Jun 7, 2014

ccfcway said:
absolutely !

Only we get the 'tripe', our promotion rivals tend to do quite well out of them.

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Jack Griffin · Jun 7, 2014

stupot07 said:
Ok, so I've just had a trawl through the bbc transfer pagers for April, May and June. We are certainly not alone in our lack of transfers. In fact half of the clubs in our league are yet to sign any one.

4 signings: Crawley
3 signings: sheff Utd, gillingham and notts county
2 signings: Bradford,Yeovil, Chesterfield
1 signing: PNE, Peterborough, port vale, MK dons, Fleetwood, Oldham

The rest have not made a signing yet

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Could you check on D3 squad sizes please, I thought ours was quite small now & therefore should need to sign a few more players than average.

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