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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 11, 2017
  • #106
Hat trick for Beavon tomorrow night and we all look like idiots
 

oucho

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  • Sep 11, 2017
  • #107
Grendel said:
Who can't even skip past a goalkeeper whose falling to the ground injured
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Oh you mean Beavon
 
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Amber

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  • Sep 11, 2017
  • #108
skybluegod said:
Not in the squad for Sutton today.
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He played the full 90 minutes on Saturday.
 

oucho

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  • Sep 11, 2017
  • #109
If it's true he's only got 20 goals in his last 160 games for us, Burton and Preston I'm not going to hold out hope of a sudden goalscoring run.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Sep 11, 2017
  • #110
not saying it will happen to beavon - but it does happen

Look at Leon clarke
3 in 5 for us
1 in 4 the rest of his career

all at a similar level
 

skybluegod

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  • Sep 12, 2017
  • #111
Amber said:
He played the full 90 minutes on Saturday.
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Apologies, bbc sport was wrong on the day, it had given the wrong number for Thomas so I had assumed it was a different Thomas.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 12, 2017
  • #112
skybluegod said:
Apologies, bbc sport was wrong on the day, it had given the wrong number for Thomas so I had assumed it was a different Thomas.
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Yes, I wondered which Thomas it was
 
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Bertola

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  • Sep 12, 2017
  • #113
Otis said:
You are joking, right?

It was a great effort and deserved a goal.
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"Sprinted" He was hobbling out
 

Otis

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  • Sep 12, 2017
  • #114
Bertola said:
"Sprinted" He was hobbling out
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We will have to agree to disagree then.

Unfortunately there is no footage is there. For me he came out running at pace and only slowed down as he approached Beavon, clearly in pain.
 

fatso

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  • Sep 12, 2017
  • #115
Otis said:
We will have to agree to disagree then.

Unfortunately there is no footage is there. For me he came out running at pace and only slowed down as he approached Beavon, clearly in pain.
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The keeper did come sprinting out, but then realised it was Beavon, and promptly collapsed in fits of laughter, thus splitting his sides, and was later substituted as a result.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 12, 2017
  • #116
fatso said:
The keeper did come sprinting out, but then realised it was Beavon, and promptly collapsed in fits of laughter, thus splitting his sides, and was later substituted as a result.
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Well I watched it intently and clearly on the replay you can see that there is no laughing.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 12, 2017
  • #117
 

Hobo

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  • Sep 12, 2017
  • #118
oucho said:
If it's true he's only got 20 goals in his last 160 games for us, Burton and Preston I'm not going to hold out hope of a sudden goalscoring run.
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If anybody ever thought Beavon was a prolific goalscorer they are missing the point of the players attributes.
 
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oucho

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #119
So he's back after an underwhelming stay at Sutton. Based on recent evidence I'd be tempted to include him in the side ahead of Biamou, alongside Nazon as a front 2, in a 442 with Jones and Devon on the wings. Got to be worth a try - Biamou, Beavon and McNulty do not look like scoring any time soon.
 
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Cov kid 55

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #120
oucho said:
So he's back after an underwhelming stay at Sutton. Based on recent evidence I'd be tempted to include him in the side ahead of Biamou, alongside Nazon as a front 2, in a 442 with Jones and Devon on the wings. Got to be worth a try - Biamou, Beavon and McNulty do not look like scoring any time soon.
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I thought that in the second half, McNulty and Biamou looked dangerous in the second half, and both could have scored with a little luck. I think they’re worth persevering with.
 

Otis

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #121
oucho said:
So he's back after an underwhelming stay at Sutton. Based on recent evidence I'd be tempted to include him in the side ahead of Biamou, alongside Nazon as a front 2, in a 442 with Jones and Devon on the wings. Got to be worth a try - Biamou, Beavon and McNulty do not look like scoring any time soon.
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Did you watch the U23 game today?

Thomas was very poor. Hardly won a header all game and his link up play was bad too. He never looked like scoring either.

Surely he needs to impress in games like these before he warrants inclusion doesn't he?
 
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skybluegod

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #122
Otis said:
Did you watch the U23 game today?

Thomas was very poor. Hardly won a header all game and his link up play was bad too. He never looked like scoring either.

Surely he needs to impress in games like these before he warrants inclusion doesn't he?
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Exactly. Biamou has impressed me recently, thought he did well second half vs Barnet especially considering he was largely isolated.
Thomas isn’t the answer imo, not going to write him off, as he deserves a chance if he can earn it. But at the moment everyone else is ahead of him, in terms of confidence, form and fitness.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #123
Biamou has been doing well bar putting the ball in the net. Had Thomas looked sharp and scored today then maybe there's a point to be had.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #124
oucho said:
Based on recent evidence I'd be tempted to include him in the side ahead of Biamou,.
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which evidence is this ?. Far more evidence to suggest JP deserves a shot more than Thomas.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #125
ccfcway said:
which evidence is this ?. Far more evidence to suggest JP deserves a shot more than Thomas.
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Yeah agree.I think Biamou and Thomas are very similar, but Biamou is ahead of Thomas at this moment in time. Thomas needs to earn his place by performing well for the U23's.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #126
oucho said:
So he's back after an underwhelming stay at Sutton. Based on recent evidence I'd be tempted to include him in the side ahead of Biamou, alongside Nazon as a front 2, in a 442 with Jones and Devon on the wings. Got to be worth a try - Biamou, Beavon and McNulty do not look like scoring any time soon.
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The flawless logic of putting a striker who struggled in non-league, ahead of strikers who are struggling in L2. McNulty also happens to have scored 3 goals...
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #127
Otis said:
Did you watch the U23 game today?

Thomas was very poor. Hardly won a header all game and his link up play was bad too. He never looked like scoring either.

Surely he needs to impress in games like these before he warrants inclusion doesn't he?
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Why? Beavon won't score for the next century and he'll be on the bench again
 
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oucho

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #128
Grendel said:
Why? Beavon won't score for the next century and he'll be on the bench again
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Exactly - the evidence is that our current crop don't appear able to hit a cow's arse with the proverbial banjo - KT looked decent in fits and starts last season, give him a go! Otherwise WTF are we paying him for?
 

Otis

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #129
Grendel said:
Why? Beavon won't score for the next century and he'll be on the bench again
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Thomas did nothing today. Last two times Beavon has come on he has created chances for those around him.

Come on Grendel, you are an intelligent man. Massive difference between someone no scoring and not creating chances for others and someone who is creating chances for others.

Thomas did absolutely nothing today at all. How does that warrant him a place on the bench?
 

Hobo

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #130
I am sure most fans would be happy with Dennis Bergkamp in our team, even when we were in the top flight. Striker who scored 87 goals in 315 matches for Arsenal....0.28 of a goal per game..

Not prolific by any means but a great attacking threat and provider. I think Cyril Regis was similar a contributor rather than a finisher.

But two players that made your team more of a threat, more formidable, ignore them and they would pop one in the net. Mark them and they would pull your defence around so someone else could smack one in the back door.

Don't just watch the ball. That's my advice to really understanding the game.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 9, 2017
  • #131
We're not seriously suggesting a bloke who couldn't get in the Sutton side deserves to go straight into our first team?!?

fatso'd explode if he vaulted Ponticelli in the pecking order, anyway!
 

rob9872

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  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #132
Hobo said:
I am sure most fans would be happy with Dennis Bergkamp in our team, even when we were in the top flight. Striker who scored 87 goals in 315 matches for Arsenal....0.28 of a goal per game..

Not prolific by any means but a great attacking threat and provider. I think Cyril Regis was similar a contributor rather than a finisher.

But two players that made your team more of a threat, more formidable, ignore them and they would pop one in the net. Mark them and they would pull your defence around so someone else could smack one in the back door.

Don't just watch the ball. That's my advice to really understanding the game.
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There's also understanding the game when comparing Bergkamp, Regis .... and Beavon! I think we all appreciate a good creative talent or a hold the ball up type, even someone with strength and/or movement to create space but if running around aimlessly with no end product is viewed as an attribute I'm amazed that the scouting system missed me!
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #133
Hobo said:
I am sure most fans would be happy with Dennis Bergkamp in our team, even when we were in the top flight. Striker who scored 87 goals in 315 matches for Arsenal....0.28 of a goal per game..

Not prolific by any means but a great attacking threat and provider. I think Cyril Regis was similar a contributor rather than a finisher.

But two players that made your team more of a threat, more formidable, ignore them and they would pop one in the net. Mark them and they would pull your defence around so someone else could smack one in the back door.

Don't just watch the ball. That's my advice to really understanding the game.
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Beavon would kill for a scoring record like that 283 games 52 goals nearly a goal every six games and getting worse I would call it pathetic at best.
 

fatso

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  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #134
Deleted member 5849 said:
We're not seriously suggesting a bloke who couldn't get in the Sutton side deserves to go straight into our first team?!?

fatso'd explode if he vaulted Ponticelli in the pecking order, anyway!
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I'd explode if he vaulted any fucker in the pecking order to be honest.
 

ceetee

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  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #135
Hobo said:
Don't just watch the ball. That's my advice to really understanding the game.
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That's stretching it a bit for the vocal majority
 
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Gazolba

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  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #136
Hobo said:
If anybody ever thought Beavon was a prolific goalscorer they are missing the point of the players attributes.
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How many strikers can we afford to have whose main attribute is not scoring?
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 10, 2017
  • #137
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Beavon would kill for a scoring record like that 283 games 52 goals nearly a goal every six games and getting worse I would call it pathetic at best.
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It's 24 in the last 170 games so yes it's getting worse.
 

Hobo

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  • Oct 11, 2017
  • #138
Gazolba said:
How many strikers can we afford to have whose main attribute is not scoring?
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How many goals have our central defenders scored from set pieces?

How many goals have midfielders scored from free kicks?

Fans cry out for a big man up front, yet Denis Law and David Speedie both around 5' 9" scored most their goals with their heads. As well as leading the attacking line.

One of the reasons England aren't really successful at the top Internationally is because the fans are stuck in a 4-4-2 time warp.

Perhaps Beavon brings a lot to the dressing room and on the pitch. He has more experience of promotion and what it takes than anybody in our squad.

The team is still gelling and developing. Most fans would change it from week to week based on a players last 5 minutes and a computer game data base.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 11, 2017
  • #139
Hobo said:
How many goals have our central defenders scored from set pieces?

How many goals have midfielders scored from free kicks?

Fans cry out for a big man up front, yet Denis Law and David Speedie both around 5' 9" scored most their goals with their heads. As well as leading the attacking line.

One of the reasons England aren't really successful at the top Internationally is because the fans are stuck in a 4-4-2 time warp.

Perhaps Beavon brings a lot to the dressing room and on the pitch. He has more experience of promotion and what it takes than anybody in our squad.
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You can't say that. The fans clearly know better than the manager and are also privy to what goes on in the dressing room too.
 

Hobo

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  • Oct 11, 2017
  • #140
Otis said:
You can't say that. The fans clearly know better than the manager and are also privy to what goes on in the dressing room too.
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And in the day to day training.
 
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