clint van damme
Well-Known Member
Reminds me of another recent high profile apology
This won't be the only transgression from Zouma either.
Exactly. The fact they all seemed to think it was a big joke and a bit of a laugh and he hit his cat in front of his children, probably doesn't even point to a one off does it.
He's only sorry he's been caught.
Exactly. The fact they all seemed to think it was a big joke and a bit of a laugh and he hit his cat in front of his children, probably doesn't even point to a one off does it.
He's only sorry he's been caught.
You are right. Everyone who has seen it has quite adequately explained exactly what has happened in the video in great detail.I thought you refused to watch it?
I haven’t watched it but I still know he volleyed his cat in front of a kid whilst his brother filmed it and they were laughing by the fact that not only is it all over this thread but it’s all over the media!I thought you refused to watch it?
Exactly.I haven’t watched it but I still know he volleyed his cat in front of a kid whilst his brother filmed it and they were laughing by the fact that not only is it all over this thread but it’s all over the media!
Strange thing to call someone out on.
It's a despicable thing to do, but people bringing up the Jimmy Carr thread, fucking weirdos
Reminds me of another recent high profile apology
This won't be the only transgression from Zouma either.
Exactly.
Very odd.
No,I stuck to my guns. I said I wouldn't watch it and I haven't. It would upset me too much.Not a callout - it’s not as if the video needs much context. Just curious that a number of people have said they won’t watch it, but then subsequently said they had. Haven’t seen that before.
It was a half volleyI haven’t watched it but I still know he volleyed his cat in front of a kid whilst his brother filmed it and they were laughing by the fact that not only is it all over this thread but it’s all over the media!
Strange thing to call someone out on.
In other news ...
Imagine trying to make it political?
Levels upon levels of hypocrisy!
SameStill think this is being blown way out of proportion, he had his cats removed given a ownership ban, fined and lost sponsorship,
Yet hazard kicked a lad got a few games ban
Suarez was straight up racist got a little fine,
I think his punishment is ridiculous especially considering far worst things have been commited by top level pros and nothing has come about not even close compared to KZ punishment.
Really don't understand why everything has to come down to whataboutery these days.
Can we not simply judge an individual incident on its own anymore? It's almost like a lesser version of the 'All Lives Matter' shit.
What Zouma did is utterly heinous.
He has a duty of care to these pets, they rely on him for their well-being & basic survival & they will love him unconditionally in return. Instead he abuses them for amusement, in front of kids too, whilst filming & laughing about it. He deserves absolutely everything coming his way & more.
Am I allowed to say that whilst also saying that punishments for things like Racism etc. aren't strict enough too
It is a cat but that means a defenceless loving pet. They do get eaten and drowned in countries around the worldI do get the feeling there is a bit of "it's only a cat" about it for some people. Not necessarily saying specifically on here, but in general.
I do get the feeling there is a bit of "it's only a cat" about it for some people. Not necessarily saying specifically on here, but in general.
In some ways yes you are correct, but it is a grey area. I just heard a Michael Antonio sound-byte asking if what Zouma did was worse than racism. I'll be honest my first thought was how is that relevant here, but he did go on to elaborate and call out that the punishment in football for racism was 8 games (case specific of course so can vary) where others are calling for Zouma to be sacked. On that basis he makes a solid point and it's hard to disagree.Really don't understand why everything has to come down to whataboutery these days.
Can we not simply judge an individual incident on its own anymore? It's almost like a lesser version of the 'All Lives Matter' shit.
What Zouma did is utterly heinous.
He has a duty of care to these pets, they rely on him for their well-being & basic survival & they will love him unconditionally in return. Instead he abuses them for amusement, in front of kids too, whilst filming & laughing about it. He deserves absolutely everything coming his way & more.
Am I allowed to say that whilst also saying that punishments for things like Racism etc. aren't strict enough too?
For sure but why should someone lose a job over it as well as fine and other things when there are far worst people in the game?Really don't understand why everything has to come down to whataboutery these days.
Can we not simply judge an individual incident on its own anymore? It's almost like a lesser version of the 'All Lives Matter' shit.
What Zouma did is utterly heinous.
He has a duty of care to these pets, they rely on him for their well-being & basic survival & they will love him unconditionally in return. Instead he abuses them for amusement, in front of kids too, whilst filming & laughing about it. He deserves absolutely everything coming his way & more.
Am I allowed to say that whilst also saying that punishments for things like Racism etc. aren't strict enough too?
For sure but why should someone lose a job over it as well as fine and other things when there are far worst people in the game?
To my mind, 8 games seems very low.In some ways yes you are correct, but it is a grey area. I just heard a Michael Antonio sound-byte asking if what Zouma did was worse than racism. I'll be honest my first thought was how is that relevant here, but he did go on to elaborate and call out that the punishment in football for racism was 8 games (case specific of course so can vary) where others are calling for Zouma to be sacked. On that basis he makes a solid point and it's hard to disagree.
Of course if I had may way, Zouma would be banned and so would the racists, so would Greenwood and many more, but then you'd be left with Shipley in the Premier League and far more on here would lose their shit over that
Not at all but it's a cat, how many people beat cats dogs up ect? Thousands, do they lose there income and stuff when caught? No they have a slap on the wrist their pets taken away and that's it, again it's been blown out proportionWho says they shouldn't be banned, sacked or whatever too?
Are we now saying that people are free to commit atrocities as long as someone somewhere has done worse?
Interesting to see that Dagenham have suspended Yoan Zouma whilst RSPCA investigate him for filming it yet the actual attacker carries on playing for his club like nothing has happened because he's worth a few million quid
Who says they shouldn't be banned, sacked or whatever too?
Are we now saying that people are free to commit atrocities as long as someone somewhere has done worse?
Interesting to see that Dagenham have suspended Yoan Zouma whilst RSPCA investigate him for filming it yet the actual attacker carries on playing for his club like nothing has happened because he's worth a few million quid
Not at all but it's a cat, how many people beat cats dogs up ect? Thousands, do they lose there income and stuff when caught? No they have a slap on the wrist their pets taken away and that's it, again it's been blown out proportion
"The Animal Welfare (Sentencing) Act 2021 increases the maximum sentencing under the Animal Welfare Act 2006 from six months to five years for cruelty and fighting offences."
So, yes, with a criminal conviction and being in prison people do lose their income.
Reminds me of the Derby drink drive incident with Keogh and Lawrence. One was injured and on a high wage so they wanted a get out clause and one was younger and had some value whilst not injured and was the driver. Which did they sack?Who says they shouldn't be banned, sacked or whatever too?
Are we now saying that people are free to commit atrocities as long as someone somewhere has done worse?
Interesting to see that Dagenham have suspended Yoan Zouma whilst RSPCA investigate him for filming it yet the actual attacker carries on playing for his club like nothing has happened.
They should do but we don’t have the resource to police that properly. The maximum prison sentence is now 5 years too.Not at all but it's a cat, how many people beat cats dogs up ect? Thousands, do they lose there income and stuff when caught? No they have a slap on the wrist their pets taken away and that's it, again it's been blown out proportion
They were into exploiting pussies as well, if I recall.Have the west ham fans remembered when david Sullivan and david gold took over the club? Fit an proper lol
Cmon, how many people actually get sent down for animal welfare? I literally wrestled a guy a few years ago for kicking his door 4/5x he got a slap on his wrist and I was able to look after his dog until a owner came along."The Animal Welfare (Sentencing) Act 2021 increases the maximum sentencing under the Animal Welfare Act 2006 from six months to five years for cruelty and fighting offences."
So, yes, with a criminal conviction and being in prison people do lose their income.
Spot on. His brother brings to our attention what a cruel bastard he is and gets punished for it.Who says they shouldn't be banned, sacked or whatever too?
Are we now saying that people are free to commit atrocities as long as someone somewhere has done worse?
Interesting to see that Dagenham have suspended Yoan Zouma whilst RSPCA investigate him for filming it yet the actual attacker carries on playing for his club like nothing has happened because he's worth a few million quid
Who says they shouldn't be banned, sacked or whatever too?
Are we now saying that people are free to commit atrocities as long as someone somewhere has done worse?
Interesting to see that Dagenham have suspended Yoan Zouma whilst RSPCA investigate him for filming it yet the actual attacker carries on playing for his club like nothing has happened because he's worth a few million quid
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