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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #1
The Premier League standard referee that we had last weekend has had another shocker today at Stoke, I know he sent off a Mackem but even so the refereeing in this country is poor at times.

Discuss..


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ajsccfc

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #2


Red card offence apparently.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #3
It's bad. Tackling is a dying art in the sport, I remember being brought up at Highfield Road and Paul Williams, Killer and many others used to get stuck right in and you might get a talking too if it was terrible, nowadays if you get a strong challenge it's a red card.

Must have missed the press release where Football was deemed a non-contact sport.


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ajsccfc

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #4
In this case in particular, I'd like to think most referees would see that as a fine tackle and it's just Friend who's feckless.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #5
ajsccfc said:
In this case in particular, I'd like to think most referees would see that as a fine tackle and it's just Friend who's feckless.
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I agree. Anyone who saw the game last weekend will know that Kevin Friend is a plank.


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Tomh111

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #6
He was looking for a way to use his whistle and get involved in the match all game last week, any excuse to blow it and he did.
 
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ecky

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #7
RoboCCFC90 said:
I agree. Anyone who saw the game last weekend will know that Kevin Friend is a plank.


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look closely both feet left the ground, red card offense, harsh i know but thats the rules
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #8
ecky said:
look closely both feet left the ground, red card offense, harsh i know but thats the rules
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Might have been a red card offence because it was the rules, but tbh it's shocking to see players get sent off for something like that.


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SIR ERNIE

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #9
Don't blame the ref, blame Adam for pretending he'd been pole axed.

Refs are on a hiding to nothing with players diving and cheating.

Easy with slow motion replays isn't it?
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #10
SIR ERNIE said:
Don't blame the ref, blame Adam for pretending he'd been pole axed.

Refs are on a hiding to nothing with players diving and cheating.

Easy with slow motion replays isn't it?
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I do blame Kevin Friend, not that bothers me but there was a similar incident in the second half and he did fook all.


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sw88

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #11
I spent last week saying he'd been demoted and deservedly so after his calamitous decision in favour of Chelsea against a west Brom, yet in today's paper, it reminded me; Andre Marriner gifted Chelsea their equaliser. Sorry Mr Friend. Your still a shit ref though!
 
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thaiskyblue

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  • Nov 23, 2013
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RoboCCFC90 said:
It's bad. Tackling is a dying art in the sport, I remember being brought up at Highfield Road and Paul Williams, Killer and many others used to get stuck right in and you might get a talking too if it was terrible, nowadays if you get a strong challenge it's a red card.

Must have missed the press release where Football was deemed a non-contact sport.

Robbo refs don't make the laws the governin g bodies do, yes they make mistakes , so do players , having cameras from all angles and slow mo makes them mistakes look even worse, one of the problems is the fast tracking of young refs to the top, refs should learn their trade and shouldn't be picked on their youthful
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 23, 2013
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I understand that TSB my frustrations are just as much aimed at the FA then anyone else, however inconsistency is one of the most frustrating aspects of refereeing and I am sorry to say that Mr Friend is hugely inconsistent.

He is one of the poorest referees in this country, up their with Trevor Kettle and Darren Deadman IMO.


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Sutty

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  • Nov 23, 2013
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ecky said:
look closely both feet left the ground, red card offense, harsh i know but thats the rules
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It's not the rules.

'Excessive force' is the rule. Both feet leaving the ground, two-footed, etc. are not in the rule-book.
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Nov 23, 2013
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RoboCCFC90 said:
I understand that TSB my frustrations are just as much aimed at the FA then anyone else, however inconsistency is one of the most frustrating aspects of refereeing and I am sorry to say that Mr Friend is hugely inconsistent.

He is one of the poorest referees in this country, up their with Trevor Kettle and Darren Deadman IMO.


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As I said, refs are the easy target. Cheating players are the problem.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #16
SIR ERNIE said:
As I said, refs are the easy target. Cheating players are the problem.
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Some players do consistently bend the rules I agree. I think unfortunately referees don't help their own cause.


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covboy1987

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #17
RoboCCFC90 said:
Might have been a red card offence because it was the rules, but tbh it's shocking to see players get sent off for something like that.


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Fair Tackle decision will be rescinded and the player will be free to play with no ban
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #18
covboy1987 said:
Fair Tackle decision will be rescinded and the player will be free to play with no ban
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A ban may be rescinded, but what if a game is changed, 3 points are lost or maybe it's a game which has certain implications like promotion or relegation, so many things can happen due to one bad decision, maybe not today, but tomorrow? Perhaps.


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Ibby

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #19
Kevin Friend, is a awful ref.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #20
RoboCCFC90 said:
I agree. Anyone who saw the game last weekend will know that Kevin Friend is a plank.


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I think this guy is a poor referee and that is it. Lets be honest the challenge Blair Adams did was far worse.

As for the physical contact thing in general things have been improved by eliminating a lot if the dreadful destructive forces we have seen.

The likes of Messi would not exist if we still had the assassins that went by the charming named of "chopper" or "bite your legs" - we should be grateful that laws have eliminated those from the modern game.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 23, 2013
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Grendel said:
I think this guy is a poor referee and that is it. Lets be honest the challenge Blair Adams did was far worse.

As for the physical contact thing in general things have been improved by eliminating a lot if the dreadful destructive forces we have seen.

The likes of Messi would not exist if we still had the assassins that went by the charming named of "chopper" or "bite your legs" - we should be grateful that laws have eliminated those from the modern game.
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I am not convinced about Blair's challenge he wins the ball first and then his foot goes over the ball, the intent was for the ball?


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Grendel

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #22
RoboCCFC90 said:
I am not convinced about Blair's challenge he wins the ball first and then his foot goes over the ball, the intent was for the ball?


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Would you have accepted it the other way round - I wouldn't.

Webster also was a clear sending off.

Fleck was a clear penalty.

Wilsons booking was a joke.

He is a terrible referee. That will be exposed far more this weekend than last.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 23, 2013
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Grendel said:
Would you have accepted it the other way round - I wouldn't.

Webster also was a clear sending off.

Fleck was a clear penalty.

Wilsons booking was a joke.

He is a terrible referee. That will be exposed far more this weekend than last.
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Me personally? Yes I always used to love a good challenge when playing at its an art that has been taken out the game.

The rest of what you have said I completely agree with G.


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mark82

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #24
ajsccfc said:


Red card offence apparently.
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Is that genuinely the tackle? WTF?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #25
mark82 said:
Is that genuinely the tackle? WTF?
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You seem surprised
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #26
FFS how can anyone defend the ref in this case, for one both feet are not off the floor when he clears the ball. There is also a rule of thumb here, look where the feckin ball goes, does it go where the stoke player is going or where the defender is playing it. This is one of the reasons people are becoming disaffected with football. The refs a twat
 

mark82

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #27
Grendel said:
You seem surprised
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Not surprised at anything he does to be honest. That must be the worst decision I've ever seen.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 23, 2013
  • #28
ajsccfc said:
In this case in particular, I'd like to think most referees would see that as a fine tackle and it's just Friend who's feckless.
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Due to circumstances I shalln't go into I never knew there'd been a sending-off. Having just watched MOTD, I was amazed at the red-card & said - I didn't think it was even a foul. After all the replays - I still think that.
You're spot on...he must be feckless & maybe even fecking clueless too!
 
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georgehudson

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  • Nov 24, 2013
  • #29
but K.Friend is one of our top officials,
imho, certainly not,
he appears, or gives the impression, of being an egotist,
i'm sure he's a fair person, (ahem),
however, he, like, so many others, displays an alarming degree of inconsistency,
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Nov 24, 2013
  • #30
Seen the challenge now, and if that's a red card then we may aswell announce the ending of the game of football! If you can no longer challenge for (and win) the ball, then what's the point?

It's OK Poyet asking for an apology, but that ref will probably have one week away from the top flight, only to return the following week, while Sunderland need to find an extra point or three in their remaining fixtures! Decisions like that cost managers their jobs and clubs their league status.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 24, 2013
  • #31
sw88 said:
Seen the challenge now, and if that's a red card then we may aswell announce the ending of the game of football! If you can no longer challenge for (and win) the ball, then what's the point?

It's OK Poyet asking for an apology, but that ref will probably have one week away from the top flight, only to return the following week, while Sunderland need to find an extra point or three in their remaining fixtures! Decisions like that cost managers their jobs and clubs their league status.
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I think refs should be interviews after the game to justify why they make decisions.
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Nov 24, 2013
  • #32
Nick said:
I think refs should be interviews after the game to justify why they make decisions.
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Me too. There used to be one who was prepared to do that, but only happened at the time of there being a contentious decision made. I forget which it was though. Don't think it was Poll. Maybe Ellery? Riley might have done it once too. But your right, it should happen (but won't)
 

CJ_covblaze

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 24, 2013
  • #33
No reason why they can't be in front of a camera after a game. Get far too much criticism at times but they really don't help themselves.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 24, 2013
  • #34
I think the whole of football needs to take a good look at itself tbh. From fans that come onto the pitch (even in victory!), fans shouting abusive stuff, players diving, players rolling about to get opponents booked or worse, refs increasingly shown to be less impartial in making decisions (e.g. WBA penalty decisions this season, would the same ref have sent Wayne Rooney off had he made THAT challenge?), the authorities (we have communication technology...why can't the ref consult linos & 4th officials...&/or have one in the stands to be asked for their view of events - no need for video replay to slow things down. If the ref has anything he's not more than 90% sure about he asks them if they agree with the decision he's about to give), the FL stance on fulfilling fixtures as their only real priority...etc.
ALL of them ought to be accountable & stood in front of the camera to answer for their actions.
 
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thaiskyblue

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  • Nov 24, 2013
  • #35
with all the constant changes to the laws , and peoples version of what is a tackle and what isn't it's no wonder refs make mistakes, in the merseyside derby merriles by the new remits should have seen a straight red red, but got a yellow.
 
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