Keogh bid accepted (1 Viewer)

Keogh did better than okay. He was the backbone of our team for two solid years while others came and went. He had more drive and committment than half the players we've had at this club for some time. Much better than Leon Barnett in my opinion.

So what he's left, good luck to him i say! He deserves to play in the Championship because thats where he belongs. He said it himself, at this stage in his career he needs to be playing championship football and he can't do that with us so Thorn did the right thing by negotiating a deal with Derby.

How many players (out of all those who have left recently and in the last few years) have taken the time to write a personal goodbye letter to fans. Not many i warrent you! The guy is a gent and regardless of whether he went for money or not, i will always remember him fondly as a player who gave his all for us, even when the chips were down.

And as for getting 'relegated' to League 1. I think its a good thing for us. We stagnated in the Championship. Being knocked down a league has put things into perspective for SISU and the club as a whole. And i echo someone elses comment earlier, when we get promotion (either this season or the next) we will maybe look like a better prospect for being bought. All good things come to those who wait...we might have to wait a while but our time will come!

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Sick Boy said:

Talking of backtracking....weren't you the one who couldn't get enough of Ray Ranson & SISU?

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Oh this

Completely different kettle of fish. Yes I was a fan of SISU's initial strategy for the club of recruiting young talented players and steadily building a squad. Weren't we all? That was before they bailed on the plan and lost touch with on the pitch matters though (leading to the inevitable resignations - cue bitter anti-Ranson rants from a certain poster).

To steal a great comparison from a fellow poster:
Some of us agreed with Blair's first 100 days in office. That doesn't mean we agreed with the foreign policies that followed!

GinettasStickySofa said:

Oh this

Completely different kettle of fish. Yes I was a fan of SISU's initial strategy for the club of recruiting young talented players and steadily building a squad. Weren't we all? That was before they bailed on the plan and lost touch with on the pitch matters though (leading to the inevitable resignations - cue bitter anti-Ranson rants from a certain poster).

To steal a great comparison from a fellow poster:
Some of us agreed with Blair's first 100 days in office. That doesn't mean we agreed with the foreign policies that followed!

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Actually one of the football man's visions was that the club has a small squad of 22 players two for each position.

We clearly are now back on track with that vision.

As for pulling the plug on ransoms "vision" they didn't do it early enough. A succession of clueless managers, sanctioning an outrageous deal for Eastwood when McCarthy was virtually delivering him to our door and a club who's league position was terminally in decline.

So you talk about credibility yet defend the football man.

BBC: "The fee is believed to the biggest Derby have paid out in three years and eclipses the amount paid for both Barker and Shackell"

KER-CHING!

Carlisle get 20% of the fee. Part of the deal when we signed him.

Shackells Fee was believed to be £750k. rising to £1M. so selling him early they've probably avoided that ,Barker was £900k. so Richard cost them north of that .Considering where we are that was'nt a bad auction.Not ideal of course but inevitable and other clubs knowing our status making cheeky bids ,Bristol /Ipswich Waggots influence is all evident.

GinettasStickySofa said:

Backtracking again! You do make me laugh. So now it doesn't even matter that a top Championship club is/was interested?

I'll just ignore that attempt at comedy *cringe*

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How is it backtracking?

Cardiff were interested, but not enough to actually pay a decent amount of money for what would amount to a squad player.

Still doesn't make him a Premiership player does it? Makes him what he is, a mid to low ranking Championship player, who we've got a lot of money for.

As for Ranson, his plan of trousering money from the club worked a treat, think the only "plan" he had though.

Grendel said:

Actually one of the football man's visions was that the club has a small squad of 22 players two for each position.

We clearly are now back on track with that vision.

As for pulling the plug on ransoms "vision" they didn't do it early enough. A succession of clueless managers, sanctioning an outrageous deal for Eastwood when McCarthy was virtually delivering him to our door and a club who's league position was terminally in decline.

So you talk about credibility yet defend the football man.

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Ranson's vision was to have a squad relying on inexperienced kids from the academy was it? Or did financial matters dictate that one?

A succession of 'clueless' managers that had gotten teams promoted from our division before taking on the Coventry City job. Yes it's always the manager's fault isn't it? Because things really are that simple.

lordsummerisle said:

How is it backtracking?

Cardiff were interested, but not enough to actually pay a decent amount of money for what would amount to a squad player.

Still doesn't make him a Premiership player does it? Makes him what he is, a mid to low ranking Championship player, who we've got a lot of money for.

As for Ranson, his plan of trousering money from the club worked a treat, think the only "plan" he had though.

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Haha. As soon as him name came up you just couldn't help yourself could you?

lordsummerisle said:

I am saying however that if there is a player that apparently is more than good enough to play in the Premiership then some top Championship clubs might be interested in him.

No top Championship club wants to sign Keogh.

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I would suggest that Cardiff are a top end Championship club that were "interested" in him as you yourself put it.

By your very own logic that would make him good enough to be a Premiership player.

If he is a low ranking Championship player why would these clubs want to recruit him to improve their squads? Especially a top end club!

GinettasStickySofa said:

Ranson's vision was to have a squad relying on inexperienced kids from the academy was it? Or did financial matters dictate that one?

A succession of 'clueless' managers that had gotten teams promoted from our division before taking on the Coventry City job. Yes it's always the manager's fault isn't it? Because things really are that simple.

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Really? Sorry I wasn't aware that Coleman or thorn had gained promotion from our division.

As for ranson I think its fairly obvious what his vision was, to the educated observer at least.

GinettasStickySofa said:

Haha. As soon as him name came up you just couldn't help yourself could you?



I would suggest that Cardiff are a top end Championship club that were "interested" in him as you yourself put it.

By your very own logic that would make him good enough to be a Premiership player.

If he is a low ranking Championship player why would these clubs want to recruit him to improve their squads? Especially a top end club!

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You've lost the argument. Give it a rest.

I think the argument was lost when Barnett became the player that Keogh could never be!

More managers with promotions on their CV than not no?

GinettasStickySofa said:

I think the argument was lost when Barnett became the player that Keogh could never be!

Some well thought-out theories put forward there once again though. More managers with that on their CV than not no?

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Still waiting to see which clubs Coleman and Thorn got promoted.

Grendel said:

Still waiting to see which clubs Coleman and Thorn got promoted.

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If that's all you can muster then I'll say goodnight now. Ta ta.

GinettasStickySofa said:

If that's all you can muster then I'll say goodnight now. Ta ta.

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I think I'll be waiting longer than a night for an answer to that one.

For the first time in a long time we appear to be getting decent value for our players. If the rumours are true a very good deal by the club with one year left on his contract.

Not good having your best player leave but a very good deal under the circumstances

CCFCSteve said:

For the first time in a long time we appear to be getting decent value for our players. If the rumours are true a very good deal by the club with one year left on his contract.

Not good having your best player leave but a very good deal under the circumstances

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1m may prove decent, but if edge and malaga donty work, with thorn not a fan of wood for some reason, we might have exposed an area we are ok with in recent years !

Only reason wood isn't playing is because he's being sold imo