If Leon Barnett can then Keogh can - no worries. Better tackler and much better on the ball. Also - more versatile than most of the others he's being compared to in the thread.
You can't solely judge a player on who he plays for or moves to. I'm guessing you think Matt Le Tissier was crap?
No, but he played his entire career in the top flight, and was wanted by teams like Manchester United, not really a comparison with Keogh is it?
Unless of course, he's turned down offers from Prem and top Championship clubs because he really likes walks round the Peak District?
How is Keogh rated by independent observers? Not just some Coventry fans?
I've heard it's the cable car ride at Matlock Bath that swung the deal. Made Spurs easy to resist.
Keogh could play a part in a squad for a lower down Prem team. He would do OK for a backs to the wall defence. Just like he has done for us. He would cut crosses out for whoever he plays for.
I remember the same assertions being made of Dann, when we didn't have the games to test the claims. Then we drew Chelsea in the cup and Drogba tore him a new arse; and suddenly it became apparent that he wasn't as good ad the caccooned few had hoped he was
I remember the same assertions being made of Dann, when we didn't have the games to test the claims. Then we drew Chelsea in the cup and Drogba tore him a new arse; and suddenly it became apparent that he wasn't as good ad the caccooned few had hoped he was
Never mentioned Barnet, was awful for us, but seems to be doing okay in the Prem.
Ward is a better player than Keogh, also doing well in the Prem. Dann, Fox, Warnock, Davenport all better footballers and defenders than Keogh.
Keogh moving from a team that got relegated to League One, to one that could possibly get relegated next year, certainly be closer to that than promotion.
I remember the same assertions being made of Dann, when we didn't have the games to test the claims. Then we drew Chelsea in the cup and Drogba tore him a new arse; and suddenly it became apparent that he wasn't as good as the caccooned few had hoped he was
Nonleague thinks that Bigi is a £25million pound player, and that Keogh, McPake and Deegan are some of the best players he seen at the club, and that Baker and Bell are also very good players.
None of these statements are true. For a start I said Gael was a potential 25m player. And none of those players are amongst the best I've seen play for the club-I never said that. Do you even know how long I've been a supporter?
As far as Baker and Bell goes-they have plenty of bad moments, but are confidence players. On their day they are capable of good things, and as they play for CCFC, I want them to do well. It's called "supporting".
Still, given that I haven't been on here for a while, it is hilarious to see you obsessively (mis) quoting me all over the place! I'm a sad, sad sad little man.
Ward's concentration was terrible. Play well all game then ruin it with a moment of madness reminded of what David James always used to do.
The idea that he's somehow amongst the best in the division however, is absolutely ludicrous as far as I'm concerned.
No, but he played his entire career in the top flight, and was wanted by teams like Manchester United, not really a comparison with Keogh is it?
Unless of course, he's turned down offers from Prem and top Championship clubs because he really likes walks round the Peak District?
How is Keogh rated by independent observers? Not just some Coventry fans?
Just so I'm clear on this, your logic would say then that Leon Barnett is a better player than Keogh?
Bellamy was awful for us, but been a pretty good player everywhere else.
Really?? :thinking about: You know i don't think he was. I watched him play on two occassions and listened on all the others and he played good. He wasn't the best but he wasn't the worst either.
Also if he'd played awful like you say, would anyone have come in for him? Probably not because they would have seen how awful he was and gone "nah lets spend our cash on someone who plays good"
No, but he played his entire career in the top flight, and was wanted by teams like Manchester United, not really a comparison with Keogh is it?
Unless of course, he's turned down offers from Prem and top Championship clubs because he really likes walks round the Peak District?
How is Keogh rated by independent observers? Not just some Coventry fans?
Who says Keogh wants to leave? Has he handed in a transfer request? SISU have received an offer they are happy with. They say the club can talk with Keogh. Nowhere has it ever said he wants to leave. Maybe a contract has been offered that he is not happy with, but we don't even know that for sure.
On the basis that Norwich haven't tried to get Keogh in to replace Barnett then yes.
He was awful for us, seeming to do okay for Norwich at a higher level.
Bellamy was awful for us, but been a pretty good player everywhere else.
Juke was good for us though, so by your logic, Juke is a better player than Bellamy.
So Keogh's been a much better player for us than Barnett was yet could never become a Premiership player like Barnett??*:thinking about:
Your logic's letting you down a bit there isn't it?
Here's an idea, how about trusting your own judgement of a player rather than waiting for a Premiership manager to do it for you then jumping on the bandwagon... (Pot. Kettle. Black.)
Dann, Fox and Ward have played at higher levels than he is going.
Turner is better than him as well. More mad and delusional comments from certain posters I see.
Logic is something which is a bit of a mystery to you isn't it?
You're good enough for The Prem if you have never played there, been linked with a club who play there, or with a club likely to get there?
If you have played in the Prem, or actually play in the Prem then you're not good enough for the Prem?
Upside down thinking at all?
I am trusting my own judgement, Keogh is a reasonable Championship player, he's nowhere near good enough for The Premiership.
You can say "I told you so" when he plays in The Premiership.
Won't be holding my breath.
I think we can take as very likely that Keogh, through his agent, has made it clear he wants out
This is the problem. As you say, you think. We don't know. You don't know. I don't know. We will have a better idea when the club releases a statement. If he wanted to go they will say so. If he didn't they will word it as though he did but won't say so.
From what I was told yesterday no contract was offered to Keogh, "discussions" took place with his agent and it was made clear the player was happy to honour his current contract and then open negotiations depending on what league we are in and we all know what that would have meant yet another Clingan, Gunnar, King, Westwood, Platt farce. So its adios RK.This is the problem. As you say, you think. We don't know. You don't know. I don't know. We will have a better idea when the club releases a statement. If he wanted to go they will say so. If he didn't they will word it as though he did but won't say so.
Lets say he is on 4k a week. He got offered 2k a week as we are now Div3. And that is if he even got offered one. Should he sign or say lets see if ee go up.If he wants to stay then why doesn't he sign the contract he has been offered?
I would suggest that you lost all credibility when you said that Keogh could never be the player that Leon Barnett is!
We could all see that Barnett had good assets to his game when he played for us (I would hazard a guess that couldn't) but was let down by his composure. If Barnett can now cut it in the Premiership then why couldn't Keogh? Even if you don't think Barnett can cut it, why couldn't Keogh play at the same level if Barnett can?
You are suggesting that a player could never be good enough to play in the Premiership unless he already plays there. Nonsensical.
If you could point me to anywhere that i have said "that Keogh could never be the player that Leon Barnett is"?
Barnett had 11 games for us I think on loan, not the best, but only a snapshot of what he might do.
I'm not saying at all that a player could never be good enough to play in the Premiership unless he already plays there.
I am saying however that if there is a player that apparently is more than good enough to play in the Premiership, in the last year of his contract at a club desperate for money and recently relegated, then some Premier League, or top Championship clubs might be interested in him.
We all knew pretty soon after seeing Dann that he was good enough to play in the top league, and he was signed for about £3.5million for one club, then signed for another and had a couple of seasons up there.
No Premier club wants to sign Keogh.
No top Championship club wants to sign Keogh.
A couple of middling to low ranking clubs want to sign Keogh.
However, most of the top 30 odd clubs in England must all have useless managers and scouts because they haven't signed the hidden gem that is RK??
I think this goes against what AT is quoted as saying in various interviews.From what I was told yesterday no contract was offered to Keogh, "discussions" took place with his agent and it was made clear the player was happy to honour his current contract and then open negotiations depending on what league we are in and we all know what that would have meant yet another Clingan, Gunnar, King, Westwood, Platt farce. So its adios RK.
From what I was told yesterday no contract was offered to Keogh, "discussions" took place with his agent and it was made clear the player was happy to honour his current contract and then open negotiations depending on what league we are in and we all know what that would have meant yet another Clingan, Gunnar, King, Westwood, Platt farce. So its adios RK.
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