Kelly Staying? (1 Viewer)

SkyBlueSam01 · May 6, 2022

Reads like it to me

INTERVIEW: Liam Kelly Stoke City Preview

Sky Blues club captain Liam Kelly reflected on an injury-hit year, but one that he evaluates positively due to City’s success on the field.

www.ccfc.co.uk

As an aside I don't have any recollection of him doing a cruciate as he suggests??

SlowerThanPlatt · May 6, 2022

He’s not out of contract I thought?

SkyBlueSam01 · May 6, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
He’s not out of contract I thought?

I think you're right actually... Although he doesn't sound like someone who has been told he's surplus to requirements anyway

Frostie · May 6, 2022

SkyBlueSam01 said:
Reads like it to me

INTERVIEW: Liam Kelly Stoke City Preview

Sky Blues club captain Liam Kelly reflected on an injury-hit year, but one that he evaluates positively due to City’s success on the field.

www.ccfc.co.uk

As an aside I don't have any recollection of him doing a cruciate as he suggests??

Did his PCL (as opposed to ACL) when he collided with the post last season I believe.

SlowerThanPlatt · May 6, 2022

SkyBlueSam01 said:
I think you're right actually... Although he doesn't sound like someone who has been told he's surplus to requirements anyway

They will have meetings usually after the seasons finished

SkyBlueSam01 · May 6, 2022

Frostie said:
Did his PCL (as opposed to ACL) when he collided with the post last season I believe.

Ahhhhh yes that does ring a bell now tbf

Skybluedownunder · May 6, 2022

SkyBlueSam01 said:
I think you're right actually... Although he doesn't sound like someone who has been told he's surplus to requirements anyway

He signed a 2 year contract last season so he has another year

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better days · May 6, 2022

Suspect he'll play tomorrow

Skybluedownunder · May 6, 2022

The guy just can’t stay fit long enough.

At least with Godden it’s similar but we still get a fair return out of him. I just don’t feel we do with Kelly

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AOM · May 6, 2022

I'd personally be happy keeping the same midfield from this season with Eccles pushing through for a place in the first team and Kelly as a backup.
Much rather strengthen in other positions

Terry_dactyl · May 6, 2022

better days said:
Suspect he'll play tomorrow

As a swan song?

SBAndy · May 6, 2022

Respectfully, I hope not.

better days · May 6, 2022

Terry_dactyl said:
As a swan song?

Not for Kelly

AOM · May 6, 2022

better days said:
Not for Kelly

Shipley I'm guessing? Or maybe Waghorn...

Grendel · May 6, 2022

Sadly I suspect he’s staying

SlowerThanPlatt · May 6, 2022

Grendel said:
Sadly I suspect he’s staying

If he is really on the wages suggested then we have little choice

clint van damme · May 6, 2022

Thought we might come to an agreement with him and pay him to move on. Has not looked up to it at this level and we need better to push on in my opinion.

Hobo · May 6, 2022

Kelly has been a great player for us but now has little part to play with the likes of Sheaf , Hamer, Allen and Eccles ahead of him.

He is useful to have around but if he left to get more football time in League One I wouldn't be too bothered.

Sick Boy · May 6, 2022

Ideally we’d be looking for mutual termination.

South West Sky Blue · May 6, 2022

When we were struggling last season, he was an important first team player who added a lot to a young and inexperienced team who lacked confidence.
It’s a bit harsh to judge him on this season when he’s barely played, but feel he would’ve struggled to get game time even if he was fit.

Liquid Gold · May 6, 2022

Sick Boy said:
Ideally we’d be looking for mutual termination.

I think a L1 contender would pay a small fee for him.

It's his contract that is the issue.

ccfc1234 · May 6, 2022

Sick Boy said:
Ideally we’d be looking for mutual termination.

'Ideally' a league one club like Sunderland who can pay big wages would come in for him and if would not cost us a penny!!

If reports on his salary are right we over rewarded him with his last contract. Had he been on smaller numbers I would have favoured keeping him around the squad, as despite some deficiencies in his mobility, he doesn't often let anyone down.

slowpoke · May 6, 2022

We need a larger squad next season that is as strong as possible throughout, we’ve been caught out this season with a threadbare squad which is probably why we didn’t make the top six, 5 subs too. Kelly is ideal back-up for the regular midfield and we know what we get with him. if we let him go he will need to replacing.

slowpoke · May 6, 2022

Frostie said:
Did his PCL (as opposed to ACL) when he collided with the post last season I believe.

That was classed as a non-football injury said at the time I believe to be like a car crash injury nothing to do with being injury prone, pure bad luck.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · May 6, 2022

slowpoke said:
We need a larger squad next season that is as strong as possible throughout, we’ve been caught out this season with a threadbare squad which is probably why we didn’t make the top six, 5 subs too. Kelly is ideal back-up for the regular midfield and we know what we get with him. if we let him go he will need to replacing.

Thing with Kelly is the wages he's rumoured to be on. If he's just going to be a back-up, we could probably get a first-team for similar wages or two back-ups. I've got a lot of time for Kelly, but there is a question as to whether it's the most efficient use of the wage bill.

slowpoke · May 6, 2022

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Thing with Kelly is the wages he's rumoured to be on. If he's just going to be a back-up, we could probably get a first-team for similar wages or two back-ups. I've got a lot of time for Kelly, but there is a question as to whether it's the most efficient use of the wage bill.

What are his rumoured wages and how would we know ?

larry_david · May 6, 2022

The guy came from a relegated league 2 side whilst we were in league 2 ourselves. He's had 2 contract extensions since been here and I assume some promotion bonuses. But the idea he's top 3 earner which people are spouting on here has to be bollocks and its damaging because everyone now wants him out because of it.

Is he good enough for our starting 11 now? No.
Will he do a job when required? Yes
Is he worth keeping around for 21 games in 2 months or whatever it is next season. Obviously yes.

Stop trying to shift squad players that can do a job but aren't top 6, because next season when hamer has pissed off and we're stuck with back up of Shipley, allen or ngandu, we're gonna wish we had Kelly still around

larry_david · May 6, 2022

Sorry just don't see why all of a sudden our club captain is viewed as a parasite to the club

shmmeee · May 6, 2022

South West Sky Blue said:
When we were struggling last season, he was an important first team player who added a lot to a young and inexperienced team who lacked confidence.
It’s a bit harsh to judge him on this season when he’s barely played, but feel he would’ve struggled to get game time even if he was fit.

He looked out of his depth last season.

Grendel · May 7, 2022

larry_david said:
The guy came from a relegated league 2 side whilst we were in league 2 ourselves. He's had 2 contract extensions since been here and I assume some promotion bonuses. But the idea he's top 3 earner which people are spouting on here has to be bollocks and its damaging because everyone now wants him out because of it.

Is he good enough for our starting 11 now? No.
Will he do a job when required? Yes
Is he worth keeping around for 21 games in 2 months or whatever it is next season. Obviously yes.

Stop trying to shift squad players that can do a job but aren't top 6, because next season when hamer has pissed off and we're stuck with back up of Shipley, allen or ngandu, we're gonna wish we had Kelly still around

One of the in the know posters said he’s one of the higher earners

Irish Sky Blue · May 7, 2022

shmmeee said:
He looked out of his depth last season.

No he didn’t. Kelly was instrumental in our staying up last season personified by his performance in the crucial game at Rotherham. No coincidence that in the games he played we picked up far more points than in the games he missed.
This season he really hasn’t been able to put any great run of games together due to illness and injury. He still showed his value in games such as Blackburn away ( driving the team on in the second half to come back from two down with his tremendous shot against the post turning into an assist) and Bristol City at home where his perfectly timed and weighted pass provided the assist for Godden’s winner.
Funny how Robins keeps picking a player who is out of his depth.

SBAndy · May 7, 2022

larry_david said:
The guy came from a relegated league 2 side whilst we were in league 2 ourselves. He's had 2 contract extensions since been here and I assume some promotion bonuses. But the idea he's top 3 earner which people are spouting on here has to be bollocks and its damaging because everyone now wants him out because of it.

Is he good enough for our starting 11 now? No.
Will he do a job when required? Yes
Is he worth keeping around for 21 games in 2 months or whatever it is next season. Obviously yes.

Stop trying to shift squad players that can do a job but aren't top 6, because next season when hamer has pissed off and we're stuck with back up of Shipley, allen or ngandu, we're gonna wish we had Kelly still around

It’s nothing personal, we’ve outgrown him. You’re acting as if we would let him go and not bring a replacement in. If we are to progress in this league we need to leave sentimentality at the door. If his rumoured wages are to be believed then we could attract a far better player to fill that gap in the squad.

larry_david · May 7, 2022

Grendel said:
One of the in the know posters said he’s one of the higher earners

And tbh, the itk who you mention shouldn't be coming on a public forum discussing player wages. I love his little team leaks and any transfer inside leaks but player wages should be kept away from our knowledge, shouldn't it?

Top of my head he got the volley off the post, back of keepers head in the equaliser at Blackburn, cross for goddens goal away at Bournemouth and assist for godden last minute against Bristol. More assist contributions than Allen, Shipley or Jones and probably waghorn and that's not even his game.

If Kelly stays then fine, he's gotta prove he's worth a place in our squad and he's got to stay fit.

If Kelly goes, fine, he's 32 and earned his status as a bit of a cov hero who's helped dragged us up from the shite.

Personally I like Eccles and hope he now steps up but I'm worried about his injury record. Freak injuries or injury prone?

SBAndy · May 7, 2022

larry_david said:
Personally I like Eccles and hope he now steps up but I'm worried about his injury record. Freak injuries or injury prone?

Eccles is at the age where unfortunately you get these injuries. I’m confident he will grow out of them.

Grendel · May 7, 2022

Anyway Kelly is the epitome of injury prone

You shouldn’t be offering players deals for loyalty - Shipley has also been on our
journey as well so give him a new deal

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