kcic Fan Survey results + more (1 Viewer)

ohitsaidwalker king power · Dec 16, 2013

Most importantly as if as you imply that most voters originate "on here"
An overwhelming majority of those who voted in the survey (89.7%) said they would support a campaign for an Independent Inquiry into CCFC.

Id suggest data supports that most "on here" are fair minded folk seeking the truth?:claping hands:

Grendel · Dec 16, 2013

ohitsaidwalker king power said:
Does it not state.
A clear majority of those who voted in the survey (57.7%) said the current situation facing CCFC is all or mainly the fault of sisu and only a very small minority (5.3%) said it is all or mainly the fault of ACL/Coventry City Council while 34.9% said sisu and ACL/Coventry City Council are equally at fault.

It says 42% think the council are as much to blame. Hilarious.

Grendel · Dec 16, 2013

ohitsaidwalker king power said:
Most importantly as if as you imply that most voters originate "on here"
An overwhelming majority of those who voted in the survey (89.7%) said they would support a campaign for an Independent Inquiry into CCFC.

Id suggest data supports that most "on here" are fair minded folk seeking the truth?:claping hands:

I answered yes to that question as I hope it shows councils culpability in the granting of a loan to ACL.

bigfatronssba · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
It says 42% think the council are as much to blame. Hilarious.

& 57.7% apportion no blame on the council.

So much for the idea that most people blame both sides.

bigfatronssba · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
I answered yes to that question as I hope it shows councils culpability in the granting of a loan to ACL.

You want the council to be found guilty?

You do realise how bad that would be for the city?

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel · Dec 16, 2013

bigfatronssba said:
You want the council to be found guilty?

You do realise how bad that would be for the city?

It would be great to see Muttons head on the block. Yes I'd love it.

Grendel · Dec 16, 2013

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:

I know your obsession with the council was disturbing but I didn't realise it was that bad.

I appreciate your honesty.

skybluetony176 · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
It would be great to see Muttons head on the block. Yes I'd love it.

i don't know what you are going to do if the council are proven to have done nothing wrong.

bigfatronssba · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
It would be great to see Muttons head on the block. Yes I'd love it.

Well I've no intention of supporting the suing of my city.

GaryPendrysEyes · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
It says 42% think the council are as much to blame. Hilarious.

Not as hilarious as you saying the Council are 100% to blame-- that is just you and Mad Pete.

Sky Blue Harry H · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
It would be great to see Muttons head on the block. Yes I'd love it.

Go on Grendel, get on with it (dare you to post the pictures )

ohitsaidwalker king power · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
It says 42% think the council are as much to blame. Hilarious.

G- Do the maths for me then.. Im clearly not in your arithmetic grade?

ohitsaidwalker king power · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
It would be great to see Muttons head on the block. Yes I'd love it.

Muttons gone dude... time to move on?

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Dec 16, 2013

ohitsaidwalker king power said:
Muttons gone dude... time to move on?

If only

Grendel · Dec 16, 2013

ohitsaidwalker king power said:
Muttons gone dude... time to move on?

No he was the figure behind the issue of the Judicial Review.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
No he was the figure behind the issue of the Judicial Review.

But hes gone from office I think unless I have missed something?

mark82 · Dec 16, 2013

To be honest it's about 50/50. Restores a little faith that nearly 50% have some common sense and know it isn't all one sided. Can't believe 10% wouldn't back an independent review. Why would you not want to know the truth?

Grendel · Dec 16, 2013

ohitsaidwalker king power said:
G- Do the maths for me then.. Im clearly not in your arithmetic grade?

57% said sisu are mostly to blame. 43% spread blame across both sides. Most more polls have a 2 to 3% statistical error so that's very close given what's happened to the club. It's also very reflective of real supporters views. Not the ACL clowns on here. Face it if it said 90% was sisu's fault this thread would be 500 posts long. It isn't - its muted and it proves what I've said all along - this forum is not reflective of genuine fans who are far more intelligent and measured when looking at the big picture.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Dec 16, 2013

mark82 said:
.... Can't believe 10% wouldn't back an independent review. Why would you not want to know the truth?

I think thats the most salient point from the survey.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
57% said sisu are mostly to blame. 43% spread blame across both sides. Most more polls have a 2 to 3% statistical error so that's very close given what's happened to the club. It's also very reflective of real supporters views. Not the ACL clowns on here. Face it if it said 90% was sisu's fault this thread would be 500 posts long. It isn't - its muted and it proves what I've said all along - this forum is not reflective of genuine fans who are far more intelligent and measured when looking at the big picture.

Sorry I cant read where it states that though, the 43% I mean or have I missed it?.... agree the basic maths of 57-43 is obvious.... but the 43% could be made up of "other" responses...not neccesarily as you write it?

bigfatronssba · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
57% said sisu are mostly to blame. 43% spread blame across both sides. Most more polls have a 2 to 3% statistical error so that's very close given what's happened to the club. It's also very reflective of real supporters views. Not the ACL clowns on here. Face it if it said 90% was sisu's fault this thread would be 500 posts long. It isn't - its muted and it proves what I've said all along - this forum is not reflective of genuine fans who are far more intelligent and measured when looking at the big picture.

So just to clarify, you apportion blame 50/50?

Grendel · Dec 16, 2013

bigfatronssba said:
So just to clarify, you apportion blame 50/50?

Do you?

Grendel · Dec 16, 2013

ohitsaidwalker king power said:
Sorry I cant read where it states that though, the 43% I mean or have I missed it?.... agree the basic maths of 57-43 is obvious.... but the 43% could be made up of "other" responses...not neccesarily as you write it?

5% totally blamed the council and 35% said sisu and the council are equally to blame - not difficult.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
The slant in your commentary clearly shows where you wanted the survey to go but the results must have embarrassed you.

It shows 45% of a survey advertised mostly on here blame the council at least as much as the owners.

Brilliant - Grendel proved right yet again.

Grendel said:
5% totally blamed the council and 35% said sisu and the council are equally to blame - not difficult.

Im lost...

bigfatronssba · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
Do you?

In my opinion no side is blameless, but one has done far more wrong than the other.

Starting back in 2003 I would say blame was 50/50, things that have happened since I would say have been more down to one side. Just my opinion.

Grendel · Dec 16, 2013

ohitsaidwalker king power said:
Im lost...

I assume the balance are don't knows and I am assuming the statistical error calculation approved by Mori.

Grendel · Dec 16, 2013

bigfatronssba said:
In my opinion no side is blameless, but one has done far more wrong than the other.

Starting back in 2003 I would say blame was 50/50, things that have happened since I would say have been more down to one side. Just my opinion.

Sisu weren't at the club in 2003.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Dec 16, 2013

Lets just talk data as we know it to be NOT inferential statistics. Not withstanding the acknowledgement from Michael that the survey would be re run in the new year due to wording issues around the survey questions...

57.7% Blame SISU only

5.3% Blame the Council only

34.9% Blame both equally.

bigfatronssba · Dec 16, 2013

Grendel said:
Sisu weren't at the club in 2003.

And the council had different leadership yet blame is still attributed to them.

wingy · Dec 16, 2013

bigfatronssba said:
And the council had different leadership yet blame is still attributed to them.

Indeed the previous council would not have seen the stadium completed ,Its also worth remembering the Entire council backed the loan on this occasion.

MichaelCCFC · Dec 16, 2013

Too many points to respond to individually I'm afraid. It would be great if in the New Year something could be done in conjunction with the Cov Tel and/or cwr that could provide some resources (or one of the supporters' groups which has resources that kcic just doesn't have). But whether it's possible to do something bigger and better or weebly/polldaddy.com is the only option (and I'm just hugely pleased that it worked) key thing is what questions should be asked next time. Specific wording for questions and answers would be very welcome.

shmmeee · Dec 16, 2013

ITT: why people without a basic knowledge of stats shouldn't either conduct polls or discuss their results.

Sorry Michael, much credit for the effort, but next time please get some help writing the questions.

This poll, especially the contentious questions, answers absolutely nothing because of poor answer choice. And this was raised right at the start.

It doesn't even say what Grendel wants, I mean it could, but it could also say 95% of people blame mostly Sisu or it's about 50/50.

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 16, 2013

shmmeee said:
Sorry Michael, much credit for the effort, but next time please get some help writing the questions.

Serendipity has him ask for help in wording for questions and answers next time, just above your post... I think you may have just volunteered

MichaelCCFC · Dec 16, 2013

shmmeee said:
ITT: why people without a basic knowledge of stats shouldn't either conduct polls or discuss their results.

Sorry Michael, much credit for the effort, but next time please get some help writing the questions.

This poll, especially the contentious questions, answers absolutely nothing because of poor answer choice. And this was raised right at the start.

It doesn't even say what Grendel wants, I mean it could, but it could also say 95% of people blame mostly Sisu or it's about 50/50.

Sounds like you have expertise in this kind of thing. Do you mind me asking what your experience/expertise is and as per previous post your suggestions for questions and answer options would be very welcome

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