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Transfer Rumour Kaine Kesler-Hayden (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jun 30, 2025
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #281
Hobo said:
Wingback is the most demanding on the pitch. That is usually why they are subbed off. With today's benches you don't need to keep certain players on for 90 minutes. You rotate and use the squad. If that position is key to your tactics you need 4 decent wingbacks.
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Yeah like I mentioned inzaghi is master of this

I understand MMM is saying. It's unlikely we keep both. But if we do it's not impossible to keep everyone happy in a winning side.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #282
oneofourown said:
There is no rush for us to sell Milan. DK wants us to push for promotion and he needs to have 'a squad' of players capable of at least competing in the premier and taht means 2 or 3 bodies in each position, we also have the 7 youngsters we have given contract to. Everyone said when Dovin was in that Collins was going but FL said we need 3 keepers not 2. If we sell Milan we are back to square one, we need to keep both for competition.
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Last season people said we need cover at right back, now we've got it, if we sell Milan Van we will be back to square one, I think MVE will stay for one more season and if we don't get promoted then they will sell.
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #283
covcity4life said:
Yeah like I mentioned inzaghi is master of this

I understand MMM is saying. It's unlikely we keep both. But if we do it's not impossible to keep everyone happy in a winning side.
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Players have to win the shirt then and make themselves happy. Lampard has said you have to be ready to take your chance. Get your head down and work, don't come knocking moaning you are on the bench. Players, if they think they are good enough they have to back themselves.
 
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Gibbo

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #284
oneofourown said:
We bought Simms and Wright at the same time.
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a better example is EMC and Wright, but that has always mystified me
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #285
SleepyGinger said:
KKH played 51 games last year, Milan played 48. They don’t need to be rotated every game they are both worth of being a comfortable first choice right back at this level, or higher.
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And they could both play that many games this season.

Let's say we play 50 games next year. That's 4.500 minutes so 2.250 each, which is still a lot, especially if you want them to play at 100% all the time in such a demanding position. And there would likely be times where they play together, either one in front of the other or maybe one needing to fill in at LB.

I don't think you realise how fortunate we've been that MvE hasn't been injured much given the workload he's had over the past two season. It's how we wrecked Dabo.

I'll say again, it's not about one being first choice and one back up. Both would be a first choice with their workload managed so they give everything the entire time they're on the pitch.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #286
BinleyMegaSkyBlue said:
Everybody stay calm, stay calm. STAY FUCKING CALM!
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long way home

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #287
Lets see what DK and FL say regards the signing and if they give any hints on what they see for the season a head on the right side.

In any case its a really good signing and hope its a good sign about the standard of player we are looking at.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #288
Chicken Mcgraw said:
Can’t wait for the first game of the season to see Doyle in that sky blue shirt again!
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I’ll help you out as you’re struggling. The post I was replying to asked:

If we sign:

Doyle
Brau
KKH
Fettuccine
Dolan
Toffolo

What else do we need?
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Does that help or should I fetch the crayons?
 

Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #289
shmmeee said:
I’ll help you out as you’re struggling. The post I was replying to asked:



Does that help or should I fetch the crayons?
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@Ccfcisparks christ you’ve rinsed him here. I didn’t think he was actually that dense
 

Lamps

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #290
shmmeee said:
I’ll help you out as you’re struggling. The post I was replying to asked:



Does that help or should I fetch the crayons?
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Crayons? Don't make it too difficult for him.
 

skybluecam

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #291
If I was KKH I'd want to know Milan was heading off in order to sign.

No point winning POTY at another championship club then spending a season as potentially second choice in the same league.

I assume Milan is expected to leave
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #292
Ccfcisparks said:
Im pretty astounded people cant grasp it
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MVE is a Prem ready player and give KKH 2 years development and he could become a better player imo.

KKH is already a better defender, even modest improvements in his attacking output and he becomes a top end RB in this league.

It’s shrewd business and at some point we need to sell 1-2 players for profit to continuously improve the squad.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #293
With Fulham now locking Tete down on a new contract… what if we moved MVE up to RW and then have KKH at RWB. That could be a pretty impressive right side outlet.

Never gunna happen but we can dream can’t we?

Suits MVE’s attacking outlet and KKH’s defensive abilities


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CovRes

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #294
skybluecam said:
If I was KKH I'd want to know Milan was heading off in order to sign.

No point winning POTY at another championship club then spending a season as potentially second choice in the same league.

I assume Milan is expected to leave
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Unless work has been going on in the background on a deal to move Milan on, the most they could promise KKH is that they expect Milan to be moving on.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #295
skybluecam said:
If I was KKH I'd want to know Milan was heading off in order to sign.

No point winning POTY at another championship club then spending a season as potentially second choice in the same league.

I assume Milan is expected to leave
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Exactly. This was an important move for his career and coming off 2-3 seasons in the Championship and squad role would be a backwards step for him.

Skybluedownunder said:
With Fulham now locking Tete down on a new contract… what if we moved MVE up to RW and then have KKH at RWB. That could be a pretty impressive right side outlet.

Never gunna happen but we can dream can’t we?

Suits MVE’s attacking outlet and KKH’s defensive abilities


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We need more goals from the wing, not less. MVE isn’t a RW.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #296
Skybluedownunder said:
With Fulham now locking Tete down on a new contract… what if we moved MVE up to RW and then have KKH at RWB. That could be a pretty impressive right side outlet.

Never gunna happen but we can dream can’t we?

Suits MVE’s attacking outlet and KKH’s defensive abilities


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What is the data on MvEs attacking outlet compared to our proper wingers ?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #297
Perennial Lurker said:
What is the data on MvEs attacking outlet compared to our proper wingers ?
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Generally quite impressive, without a doubt a top end attacking fullback in this league. Had a higher xA than Sakamoto and EMC. Low-ish cross success.

However, his dribbling stats are bad. 35.2% dribbling success rate is low for a RB and 27 times he’s been dispossessed is up there too.

KKH had more successful dribbles with a higher success rate but his ‘dispossessions’ were higher than MVE’s. That said, the dispossessions is more of a reflection of being a higher volume dribbler of the ball.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Jul 1, 2025
  • #298
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Generally quite impressive, without a doubt a top end attacking fullback in this league. Had a higher xA than Sakamoto and EMC. Low-ish cross success.

However, his dribbling stats are bad. 35.2% dribbling success rate is low for a RB and 27 times he’s been dispossessed is up there too.

KKH had more successful dribbles with a higher success rate but his ‘dispossessions’ were higher than MVE’s. That said, the dispossessions is more of a reflection of being a higher volume dribbler of the ball.
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So nothing suggests they are going to play as a partnership
We need to accept that Milan is going
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 2, 2025
  • #299
Perennial Lurker said:
So nothing suggests they are going to play as a partnership
We need to accept that Milan is going
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It’s fanciful thinking. MVE has been a top player for us but at 2 years left on his contract, it’s probably the right window to sell up because he will not sign a new contract unless we get promoted.

I’m pretty sure @Saddlebrains said something along the lines that if we sign KKH, MVE will be off when the initial link sprung up in the media. Correct me if I’m wrong though!
 
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CCFCAnalysis

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  • Jul 2, 2025
  • #300

Kaine Kesler-Hayden - Signing #2

New Signing: 22 year old full-back joins on a 4 year deal from Aston Villa
ccfcanalysis.substack.com
 
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Porkchophill

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  • Jul 2, 2025
  • #301
If MVE is outgoing it great to see us doing our business first, instead of being reactive and being held to ransom because we’ve got money from a sale … really excited by this kid , could potentially be an upgrade and shows the model working perfectly
 
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mmttww

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  • Jul 2, 2025
  • #302
SkyBlueMatt said:
Let the bodies hit the...
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 3, 2025
  • #303
Chicken Mcgraw said:
@Ccfcisparks christ you’ve rinsed him here. I didn’t think he was actually that dense
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Fucking he’ll you’re desperate. Take the L and go. Trying so hard you’re starting to sound like your little buddy.
 

Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Jul 3, 2025
  • #304
shmmeee said:
Fucking he’ll you’re desperate. Take the L and go. Trying so hard you’re starting to sound like your little buddy.
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Take the L? Aren’t you in your 40s? No wonder you got bullied out of Grace Academy.

Still can’t wait for that Bertaccini and Dolan link up first game of the season
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 3, 2025
  • #305
Chicken Mcgraw said:
Take the L? Aren’t you in your 40s? No wonder you got bullied out of Grace Academy.

Still can’t wait for that Bertaccini and Dolan link up first game of the season
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Oh dear.

Never mind kid you’ve got your life ahead of you. Though sadly it looks like you’re on the track to Grendel. Condolences.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 3, 2025
  • #306
Did anybody notice on the training videos that in some clips KKH appeared to be playing on the left hand side, albeit in mini matches?
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Jul 3, 2025
  • #307
fernandopartridge said:
Did anybody notice on the training videos that in some clips KKH appeared to be playing on the left hand side, albeit in mini matches?
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Now that would be interesting. With him one side and MVE the other…
 
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long way home

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #308
I think we are such a differently run club now, that keeping Milan is not as far fetched a theory as some may think. I would assume FL has a plan and DK is happy with it regarding both players. Its just a matter of time before we find out the path that FL has decided for the players to take.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #309
Terry_dactyl said:
Now that would be interesting. With him one side and MVE the other…
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He played some games for Preston on the left .
 

Lamps

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #310
long way home said:
I think we are such a differently run club now, that keeping Milan is not as far fetched a theory as some may think. I would assume FL has a plan and DK is happy with it regarding both players. Its just a matter of time before we find out the path that FL has decided for the players to take.
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And would it be the time to leave us now?

MVE was devastated with his absolute fuck up in the playoffs. It just might make him even more determined to get us promoted. The turnaround under Lampard must be tempting to stay for the journey. You can also see he enjoys his time with us.

There's one big bonus if MVE stays. We would have KKH, MVE and Grimes who are all capable of 50 games a season. One pulling the strings and the other two dancing up the wings. With other players like Saka, Rudoni, EMC and Wright we wouldn't be far off a top Championship side.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #311
Terry_dactyl said:
Now that would be interesting. With him one side and MVE the other…
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Were Bidwell and JDS in these vids?
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #312
Captain Dart said:
Were Bidwell and JDS in these vids?
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I’ve no idea.
 

SkyBlueStallion_89

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #313
fernandopartridge said:
Did anybody notice on the training videos that in some clips KKH appeared to be playing on the left hand side, albeit in mini matches?
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The screamer he score against Leeds for Preston... He was playing RB, cut in and smashed it with his left so he's strong with both feet, KKH down the left/MVE down the right
 
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Balli001

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #314
Lamps said:
And would it be the time to leave us now?

MVE was devastated with his absolute fuck up in the playoffs. It just might make him even more determined to get us promoted. The turnaround under Lampard must be tempting to stay for the journey. You can also see he enjoys his time with us.

There's one big bonus if MVE stays. We would have KKH, MVE and Grimes who are all capable of 50 games a season. One pulling the strings and the other two dancing up the wings. With other players like Saka, Rudoni, EMC and Wright we wouldn't be far off a top Championship side.
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From the club's point of view it is the right time. It's the last chance to get a huge fee before he goes into the final year of his contract.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #315
Balli001 said:
From the club's point of view it is the right time. It's the last chance to get a huge fee before he goes into the final year of his contract.
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Unless of course he signs a new contract.
 
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