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Kain Ryan - new signing (academy) (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter skyblueelephant76
  • Start date Mar 11, 2024
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #1
New signing going into the academy

 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #2
Centre back.
Started every game for Brighton U18 last season, no appearances for the U21s this season.
Played two games for England U16.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #3
Odds on him ever making the first team?
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #4
skybluecam said:
Odds on him ever making the first team?
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Low but sounds like there were a few Prem clubs after him when he was 16. He's got a year to make an impression.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #5

Coventry City sign former Derby County defender on free transfer

Latest Derby County news from Derbyshire Live brings you news of a former Ram who has been on the move
www.derbytelegraph.co.uk

Looks like he had a trial at Stoke aswell
 
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tom88

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #6
He’s not smiling!!

send the lad back
 
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JSL

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #7
Give the lad a chance. Welcome Kain
 
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long way home

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #8
To sign him they see something they can work with, so lets see how or if we are at his level. Its an opportunity for him, if he doesn't take it everyone moves on.

He will be one of hundreds doing the same come summer, its just a part of the process and its the business.
 
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Tea & Busquets

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  • Mar 11, 2024
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Hope we bolster our youth ranks a bit more. Seem to always put together a strong enough squad for the division we're in, but lack potential for the first team. Less Costello type signings more promising 17-19 year olds.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #10
Just out of interest.

What investment would be needed to get to a Cat 1 Academy?
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #11
Philosorapter said:
Just out of interest.

What investment would be needed to get to a Cat 1 Academy?
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Based on a quick google search, a few million invested in it each year, and being in the Premier league or recently
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Mar 11, 2024
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PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Based on a quick google search, a few million invested in it each year, and being in the Premier league or recently
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I am guessing a lot will be based on profits from the PL.

There must be some ideas or discussions though on what happens if/when we get back into the top flight and have a secured position in the league.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #13
Tea & Busquets said:
Hope we bolster our youth ranks a bit more. Seem to always put together a strong enough squad for the division we're in, but lack potential for the first team. Less Costello type signings more promising 17-19 year olds.
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Costello was a means to an end. Signing him allowed other forwards to go out on loan, just unfortunate that the ones we loaned out and had high hopes for never kicked on.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #14
Tenna says hes the next Cashman
 
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Deity

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #15
Saddlebrains said:
Tenna says hes the next Cashman
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Not much of a bet.

we have a poor recent track record of bringing academy players through and playing regularly for the first team.

Aside from Eccles it’s hard to think of the last one who really made an impact in the last few years.

Shipley, Thomas etc were all really lg1 or below players …
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #16
The next one will be Burroughs

After that im stumped
 
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SleepyGinger

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #17
Saddlebrains said:
Tenna says hes the next Cashman
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Give him a chance ffs
 
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torchomatic

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  • Mar 11, 2024
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Saddlebrains said:
Tenna says hes the next Cashman
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Piss poor.
 
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steve101

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #19
6ft 4 and left footed
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #20
Saddlebrains said:
The next one will be Burroughs

After that im stumped
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Tristan Batanwi will be a class player
 
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Hobo

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #21
skybluecam said:
Odds on him ever making the first team?
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Yes you want the academy to produce first team players but they are few and far between. Also you can't produce a good player by surrounding them with rubbish.

The Academy has its own budget and he seems a decent acquisition. The role of an Academy is about making professional footballers, not necessarily Premier League footballers or Championship footballers.

From all the young players involved in Academy Football in the UK less than 1% make it as Professional footballers. That might be in League 2 or even National League.
 

BUSA

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #22
From a Brighton fan -
Ryan joined the Derby County youth system at the age of 11. He developed through the age ranks and was offered his scholarship by the Rams during 2019-20 when he was still an U-15 schoolboy. That same season he played for the England U-16 side (starting in the 4-1 win over the USA at St George’s Park on 21 Feb 2020) and started to attract the attention of numerous Premier League clubs. He made his debut for the Derby County U-18 side when he came on as a substitute in the 3-0 defeat at Liverpool in the U-18 Premier League North on 4 May 2021 during his U-16 schoolboy season.

Ryan's natural position is as a left-sided centre-back but he is versatile and can also play as a central defensive midfielder or as a left-back. He commenced his scholarship with the Rams in the summer of 2021. He made four starts for the U-18s in 2021-22, his last coming in the 1-1 home draw with Reading in the group stages of the U-18 Premier League Cup on 18 September 2021. On 20 November 2021 he was named as a substitute for the Brighton and Hove Albion U-18 side for their home fixture with Chelsea. Six days later his representatives announced that he had completed a transfer to the Seagulls. He made his debut for the U-18s as a substitute in the 3-2 win at Sunderland in the U-18 Premier League Cup on 30 January 2022 and made a total of seven appearances for the Albion U-18s in 2021-22. He signed a professional contract in the summer of 2022.

In 2022-23 he scored one goal for the U-18s in 20 appearances (18 of them starts). On 26 August 2023 he started for the Stoke City U-21s in their Premier League 2 fixture against Manchester United. He gave the ball away for United’s first goal and the team were losing 6-1 at half-time. He didn’t reappear for the second half as the side lost 10-1 and he didn’t make another appearance (presumably he had joined Stoke on loan as he was unlikely to get much playing time for the Albion U-21s).

He returned to Albion and made a couple of starts in the Sussex Senior Cup but was sent off for two cautions in the second of those appearances in November. His only other (and last) appearance for the Albion U-21s was 30 minutes as a sub in their Premier League International Cup victory over Dinamo Zagreb on 17 January 2024. When the Premier League squad list was published at the end of the January 2024 transfer window he wasn’t included in Albion’s list of U-21 players.
 
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cstring82

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #23
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Tristan Batanwi will be a class player
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Agree based on the few games I’ve seen him, shame he’s done his knee in the Nuneaton (not so) friendly last year. Just hope he comes back from it well enough to push on.
 
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ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #24
BUSA said:
From a Brighton fan -
Ryan joined the Derby County youth system at the age of 11. He developed through the age ranks and was offered his scholarship by the Rams during 2019-20 when he was still an U-15 schoolboy. That same season he played for the England U-16 side (starting in the 4-1 win over the USA at St George’s Park on 21 Feb 2020) and started to attract the attention of numerous Premier League clubs. He made his debut for the Derby County U-18 side when he came on as a substitute in the 3-0 defeat at Liverpool in the U-18 Premier League North on 4 May 2021 during his U-16 schoolboy season.

Ryan's natural position is as a left-sided centre-back but he is versatile and can also play as a central defensive midfielder or as a left-back. He commenced his scholarship with the Rams in the summer of 2021. He made four starts for the U-18s in 2021-22, his last coming in the 1-1 home draw with Reading in the group stages of the U-18 Premier League Cup on 18 September 2021. On 20 November 2021 he was named as a substitute for the Brighton and Hove Albion U-18 side for their home fixture with Chelsea. Six days later his representatives announced that he had completed a transfer to the Seagulls. He made his debut for the U-18s as a substitute in the 3-2 win at Sunderland in the U-18 Premier League Cup on 30 January 2022 and made a total of seven appearances for the Albion U-18s in 2021-22. He signed a professional contract in the summer of 2022.

In 2022-23 he scored one goal for the U-18s in 20 appearances (18 of them starts). On 26 August 2023 he started for the Stoke City U-21s in their Premier League 2 fixture against Manchester United. He gave the ball away for United’s first goal and the team were losing 6-1 at half-time. He didn’t reappear for the second half as the side lost 10-1 and he didn’t make another appearance (presumably he had joined Stoke on loan as he was unlikely to get much playing time for the Albion U-21s).

He returned to Albion and made a couple of starts in the Sussex Senior Cup but was sent off for two cautions in the second of those appearances in November. His only other (and last) appearance for the Albion U-21s was 30 minutes as a sub in their Premier League International Cup victory over Dinamo Zagreb on 17 January 2024. When the Premier League squad list was published at the end of the January 2024 transfer window he wasn’t included in Albion’s list of U-21 players.
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Thanks for the information, it’s useful to have a bit of background on a player.

There’s potential there, but as always, it’s down to the player if he wants to grow and progress.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 11, 2024
  • #25
We need to strengthen the development side and hope the lad makes a good impression.

Always feel the coaches aren't completely convinced if they only give someone that age a year though.
 

Otis

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  • Mar 12, 2024
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Saddlebrains said:
Tenna says hes the next Cashman
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Who's Tenna? Is he your club insider?

I know you are often known for talking a load of shit, but this time maybe it's coming out the other end.



 

skybluegod

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  • Mar 12, 2024
  • #27
Saddlebrains said:
The next one will be Burroughs

After that im stumped
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Andrews appears highly rated? Also Issac Moore was at one point admittedly he has had a serious injury at a bad time for his development
 
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pw362

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  • Mar 12, 2024
  • #28
The youngster will spend the remainder of 23/24 with @SkyBluesAcademy. So 3 months to make an impression. Not a year.
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 12, 2024
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pw362 said:
The youngster will spend the remainder of 23/24 with @SkyBluesAcademy. So 3 months to make an impression. Not a year.
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He's been given a contract until June 2025. It's just this season he'll say with the academy, before moving towards the first team squad next season.

This is from the article..

The 19-year-old centre half has signed a contract with the Sky Blues until June 2025 and will initially link up with City’s Under-21s side.

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skyblue025

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  • Mar 13, 2024
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I presume he's been one of the trialists playing recently? Anyone who goes to watch the U21's seen him play?
 

BUSA

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  • Mar 14, 2024
  • #31
skybluegod said:
Andrews appears highly rated? Also Issac Moore was at one point admittedly he has had a serious injury at a bad time for his development
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In terms of prospects - I’d say Obikwu, Moore, Andrews & Dausch
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Mar 14, 2024
  • #32
BUSA said:
In terms of prospects - I’d say Obikwu, Moore, Andrews & Dausch
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Is Dausch that good? From what I can see, Finney has been starting ahead of him for the U21s.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 14, 2024
  • #33
BUSA said:
In terms of prospects - I’d say Obikwu, Moore, Andrews & Dausch
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Batanwi as well. Dausch not so sure.
 
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