Just how much did our shocking start cost us this season (4 Viewers)

rexo87 · Feb 21, 2023

Every side could say they'd be in the top 6 if whatever happened didnt happen. Yes we've thrown away some points but we've also gained points in games we haven't deserved points in

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PVA · Feb 21, 2023

harvey098 said:
Last season we finished on a points per game of 1.39… this season, despite the start, we’re actually ahead that on 1.41.

Remarkably we’re actually on course for year on year improvement for the 6th consecutive season. Quite incredible really

Not bad considering our recruitment is awful and our manager has no in-game management skills.

Evo1883 · Feb 21, 2023

Last 26 games we've got 1.65 points a match

If we manage that until the end we will get 23 more points would put us on 68 , so a bit more needed

Robinshio · Feb 21, 2023

I expect we will need around 72 points for top 6
this is 1.93 points per match
we are tracking around 1.7 but very sketchy - great run / crap run/ couple of good results

Given our favourable run in, it is possible - but cant afford any more bad runs
to be in touch going into the last 2 games 7 points from each group of 4 games, and then a couple of must win cup finals at the end

so need 7+ points from :-

Sunderland H
Preston A
Huddersfield A
Hull H

All winnable, but we could just as easily end up with 2 points
We need 7 or 8 from those games to keep going

Then we should manage 7 points from the next 4 (maybe 9) (at that point 9 would put us around 6th)
Wigan H
Blackpool A
Stoke H
Swansea A

next 4 maybe 5 or 6 points (so maybe need to hit 9 from the previous group)
Watford H
QPR A
Blackburn A
Reading H

Would then need to beat both
Birmingham H (very winnable despite us always drawing with them)
Middlesbrough A (hoping they have guaranteed autos or play offs at that point)

Paxman II · Feb 21, 2023

I wouldn't say the start cost us particularly, it could be said it galvanised us to go and get good results, which we did. I think we are where I expected. Just a few points off the playoffs. To think this is with all that's gone on and missing the likes of O'Hare and to some extent Godden, then we can't complain. There will always be results you don't expect (good or bad) but so far the table doesn't lie you could say. I still beleive we could make the playoffs.

Bad Boy · Feb 21, 2023

Desire desire desire and a good pinch of luck and we could be in the top 6 by the end of the season.
Just a case of how much we want it.

covcity4life · Feb 22, 2023

Can't really say. Without the games in hand we don't have the steep rise up table we experienced.

Robinshio · Feb 22, 2023

so with the teams above us on points up to 3rd having played a game more than us and millwall playing luton on tuesday
2 successive wins now on a level 34 games put us at worse 3 points behind 6th
I think we need to get 4 points, and we may be closer with that but certainly no further away

Flying Fokker · May 20, 2023

Any thoughts on our progress?

ptr · May 21, 2023

In answer to the original post…didn’t cost us much at all and allowed us to go under the radar for the season. We were never going to get anything more than play offs.

Class act from SISU.

CDK · May 21, 2023

Nuskyblue said:
Nah I'm sure Rotherham was one of them. Isn't that also the game where we had the sickness bug? Or maybe that was Blackpool...

Think it cost us 3 pionts

Mcbean · May 21, 2023

It cost us in terms of away fans - Tuesday night winter turnouts are much lower than Saturdays

slowpoke · May 21, 2023

I think it cost us potentially an automatic place or a serious challenge for one, we were playing catch up from October and lady luck didn’t help, we got a lot back went on a weeks foreign break when the World Cup was on and came back with our influential McFadzean on crutches and went on to have not the best results during the xmas and new year period never really got going again until the end of January playing catch up again also the influential fit again COH getting his ACL just as he was making an impact.

All clubs have their iffy times in a season but we have had far more than our fair share to have finished where we did and to have got as far as we have is a bloody miracle.

covcity4life · May 21, 2023

It cost us nothing. Said at time people needed to stop panicking

fernandopartridge · May 21, 2023

I think we probably could be a few points better off if not for Simon Moore's bad form but materially not any better off

clint van damme · May 21, 2023

slowpoke said:
I think it cost us potentially an automatic place or a serious challenge for one, we were playing catch up from October and lady luck didn’t help, we got a lot back went on a weeks foreign break when the World Cup was on and came back with our influential McFadzean on crutches and went on to have not the best results during the xmas and new year period never really got going again until the end of January playing catch up again also the influential fit again COH getting his ACL just as he was making an impact.

All clubs have their iffy times in a season but we have had far more than our fair share to have finished where we did and to have got as far as we have is a bloody miracle.

We were 21 points of the autos, don't think we were ever going to bridge that gap.
As usual with city I think the feast or famine way we accumulate points skews people view of the season.
It's beena feature under Robins, we go on the runs, both good and bad.

Speedie's Head · May 21, 2023

The hyam sale was certainly costly. It meant that when Fadz was injured we hadn't no experience next to Doyle and Panzo to help them along. We'll still need to spend to replace him whatever happens next week..

ptr · May 21, 2023

There was absolutely no way we were going to get autos just because we had games called off at the start of the season doesn’t mean we were going to win them all.

The Hyam sale was costly at the time but Doyle is miles ahead and McNally is an improvement.

Speedie's Head · May 21, 2023

Hyam is blackburn's player of the season, he's a leader in the way our nippers are not (yet). McNally would have been exposed for a run of games without Fadz just like Doyle and Panzo were. Doyle has come on a lot this year with Fadz talking him through games plus his own physical gains.

ptr · May 21, 2023

Speedie's Head said:
Hyam is blackburn's player of the season, he's a leader in the way our nippers are not (yet). McNally would have been exposed for a run of games without Fadz just like Doyle and Panzo were. Doyle has come on a lot this year with Fadz talking him through games plus his own physical gains.

Hyam was decent at the start of the year when playing next to Ayala. When playing next to Carter the young lad, he looked poor in the last part of the season.

Hyam wouldn’t have played at all for us last few months. Doesn’t get in our back three. Simple.

Legia Sky Blue · May 21, 2023

I tend to agree the the back 3 as of now are as strong a unit as we have had since the PL, and stronger than a fair few we had in the PL. McFadzean has been the crucial cog though in that. McNally and Doyle are great prospects, but are both better by playing alongside McFadzean. Hyam is and was a good defender though. If we had him available during the spell Fadz missed I think we would have coped a lot better with his absence.

fatso · May 21, 2023

Speedie's Head said:
The hyam sale was certainly costly. It meant that when Fadz was injured we hadn't no experience next to Doyle and Panzo to help them along. We'll still need to spend to replace him whatever happens next week..

I'd argue we've been way better without him.
We missed Fadz way more when he's been missing, but Doyle and Mcnally have been outstanding.

If we had a chance to sign any of them I'd want to buy Doyle and Mcnally ahead of Hyam any day.

rob9872 · May 21, 2023

Starting to think this might have galvanised the siege mentality approach and of course results orientated but actually worked in our favour. All the pundits in every article mention threats of eviction, Wasps, playing away and bottom of the league in October. All facts and could've gone wrong but think it helped that mental strength to get results when we really needed them.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · May 21, 2023

fatso said:
I'd argue we've been way better without him.
We missed Fadz way more when he's been missing, but Doyle and Mcnally have been outstanding.

If we had a chance to sign any of them I'd want to buy Doyle and Mcnally ahead of Hyam any day.

If it wasn't for the pitch fiasco at the beginning of the season we would probably not have had to sell Hyam.

Meaning no McNally, so every cloud has a silver lining.

JAM See · May 21, 2023

With six or seven extra points, we may have done a Middlesbrough. Rested players, taken our foot of the gas and paid the price in the semi-final.

I'm not at all superstitious, but the need for a big push at the end of the normal season may well work in our favour. (I'm aware it didn't for Sunderland, but they were only there because Milwall imploded).

We might be looking back at Boddy's Ball's Up as a blessing in disguise.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 21, 2023

JAM See said:
With six or seven extra points, we may have done a Middlesbrough. Rested players, taken our foot of the gas and paid the price in the semi-final.

(I'm aware it didn't for Sunderland, but they were only there because Milwall imploded).

I'm not at all superstitious, but the need for a big push at the end of the normal season may well work in our favour. We might be looking back at Boddy's Ball's Up as a blessing in disguise.

I only bought a Premier package because it said Boddy would be sacked in the small print

JAM See · May 21, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I only bought a Premier package because it said Boddy would be sacked in the small print

Got money on Luton to go up?

Brighton Sky Blue · May 21, 2023

JAM See said:
Got money on Luton to go up?

We will do

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · May 21, 2023

JAM See said:
Got money on Luton to go up?

Evo1883 · May 21, 2023

ptr said:
In answer to the original post…didn’t cost us much at all and allowed us to go under the radar for the season. We were never going to get anything more than play offs.

Class act from SISU.

Easy to say now lol

rob9872 · May 21, 2023

SBT said:
Any squad that depends on the fitness of a 35 year-old CB to stay competitive isn’t a serious promotion challenger.

Evo1883 · May 21, 2023

rob9872 said:

Brilliant

SBT · May 21, 2023

Well it turned out the success of the McNally signing meant we didn’t have to rely on just Fadz so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Evo1883 · May 21, 2023

SBT said:
Well it turned out the success of the McNally signing meant we didn’t have to rely on just Fadz so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think fadz played a massive role , clubs results with and without him show that

rob9872 · May 21, 2023

Can't hold if against him, it's endemic on this forum to double down on comments rather than say, yeah I got that one badly wrong

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