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Just how much did our shocking start cost us this season (1 Viewer)

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Evo1883

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #1
The 26 matches since we drew at blues away to put us on 2 points from 6 matches and rock bottom .. when you consider the start and the key injuries we've been pretty solid without people realising
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #2
We threw away six points from the two away vMillwall and Hull and imo should have beaten Sunderland, but the CBS situation with the pitch issue certainly didn’t help or the injury to McFadzean.
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #3
slowpoke said:
We threw away six points from the two away vMillwall and Hull and imo should have beaten Sunderland, but the CBS situation with the pitch issue certainly didn’t help or the injury to McFadzean.
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Simon Moore shoulders a lot of blame for those results.
Sisu and boddy for the pitch debacle.

We should be several points better off.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #4
Might be recency bias but it does feel like we have lost a lot of Key players for big spells this season.

O'Hare X2
Godden
Fadz
Sheaf
Eccles
Dabo

All out for big chunks. Amazing how well we have coped with such a small squad
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #5
Didn’t we win all the games that were rescheduled?
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #6
Johhny Blue said:
Didn’t we win all the games that were rescheduled?
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Nah I'm sure Rotherham was one of them. Isn't that also the game where we had the sickness bug? Or maybe that was Blackpool...
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #7
even with the shocking 10 game start, we blew 2 points against Swansea after being 3-0 up at home, and before that we should have comfortably beat Reading.

Going further back than that - we dropped 3 against Blackpool.

those 10 games gave us a bad start but even then we should be comfortably in the play offs.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #8
Alkhen said:
Might be recency bias but it does feel like we have lost a lot of Key players for big spells this season.

O'Hare X2
Godden
Fadz
Sheaf
Eccles
Dabo

All out for big chunks. Amazing how well we have coped with such a small squad
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Yea we coped well. We really didn't get going, we looked half a yard short at the start of the season. We never seemed to be able to get going in games, I put this down to the stop start nature of it and the last minute postponements. Can't have helped.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #9
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
even with the shocking 10 game start, we blew 2 points against Swansea after being 3-0 up at home, and before that we should have comfortably beat Reading.

Going further back than that - we dropped 3 against Blackpool.

those 10 games gave us a bad start but even then we should be comfortably in the play offs.
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Yep, the results around Christmas were worse for me. How we didn't beat Reading, Swansea, Cardiff and Bristol City I'll never know.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Feb 20, 2023
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Nuskyblue said:
Nah I'm sure Rotherham was one of them. Isn't that also the game where we had the sickness bug? Or maybe that was Blackpool...
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You’re right but still a good return from postponed games:
Huddersfield won 2-0
Wigan won 2-0
Rotherham drew 2-2
West Brom won 1-0
So it’s hard to say the rescheduled games really cost us
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #11
pusbccfc said:
Yep, the results around Christmas were worse for me. How we didn't beat Reading, Swansea, Cardiff and Bristol City I'll never know.
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Shocking patch of form that. We were so shit after the world cup. I suppose you get them in the championship, across the board (Burnley seem immune) what makes it such a good division. The bad start for me felt like a result of the off field stuff which is somehow more annoying
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #12
The pitch/postponement issue was huge and massively affected us, I don't think a lot of people realised it at the time and just put it down to us being shit. It was clear we had a good team.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 20, 2023
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Johhny Blue said:
You’re right but still a good return from postponed games:
Huddersfield won 2-0
Wigan won 2-0
Rotherham drew 2-2
West Brom won 1-0
So it’s hard to say the rescheduled games really cost us
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I think it was more the disruption tbh, the points haul there you could argue is par for the fixtures. Maybe just above.
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #14
Johhny Blue said:
You’re right but still a good return from postponed games:
Huddersfield won 2-0
Wigan won 2-0
Rotherham drew 2-2
West Brom won 1-0
So it’s hard to say the rescheduled games really cost us
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I'd give my left bollock for a run of results like that from our next 4 btw
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #15
pusbccfc said:
Yep, the results around Christmas were worse for me. How we didn't beat Reading, Swansea, Cardiff and Bristol City I'll never know.
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That Reading match has to be one of the worst games of football I’ve ever watched
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #16
Nooo brum at home last season was the pits. Watching their lumbering CB amble from one side of the pitch to the other to aimlessly hurl the ball into our box was the worst
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #17
Nuskyblue said:
I'd give my left bollock for a run of results like that from our next 4 btw
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I'd give your right one for it to carry on for the rest of the season!
 
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hill83

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  • Feb 20, 2023
  • #18
About a fiver
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #19
alexccfc99 said:
That Reading match has to be one of the worst games of football I’ve ever watched
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Think Reading could get sucked into the relegation battle.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #20
I’m hoping we ‘do a Forest’
 

Hutch11

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #21
I firmly believe that with O'Hare fit all season we'd be in the top 6 comfortably
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #22
Flying Fokker said:
I’m hoping we ‘do a Forest’
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Middlesbrough are a bit busy doing that
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #23
Think a lot of teams can point to games where they should have picked up more points. We were very so so against a poor Reading team, and Hull were there for the taking, but Moore cost us. We have made a fantastic effort to get where we are given the injuries. Just hoping Sunderland pick up a few at Rotherham tonight!
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #24
slowpoke said:
Think Reading could get sucked into the relegation battle.
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My step dad is a Reading fan, every time they win he is amazed because they're so poor, he thinks they genuinely could get pulled into it.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #25
Nuskyblue said:
My step dad is a Reading fan, every time they win he is amazed because they're so poor, he thinks they genuinely could get pulled into it.
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My friend is the same
 

Robinshio

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #26
3-3 v swansea and 2-3 v millwall

hold on to the 3-0 and 2-0 and we are 4th

so these 2 games for me were the most disappointing and probably the most damage and I think Millwall game defined our early season , and the swansea put us on our next bad run
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #27
Robinshio said:
3-3 v swansea and 2-3 v millwall

hold on to the 3-0 and 2-0 and we are 4th

so these 2 games for me were the most disappointing and probably the most damage and I think Millwall game defined our early season , and the swansea put us on our next bad run
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Equally we beat Sheff U and West Brom with very late penalties, likewise saved a draw against Rotherham with one. It does go both ways
 
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Mcbean

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #28
We lost some money as the crowds would have been lower for the two rearranged evening games with less money from the beer and pie fund
 

Hutch11

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #29
Millwall away still rankles with me , we were cruising until Moore went walkabout
Changed the whole complexion of the match
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #30
I know I’ve been a culprit of bedwetting this season. But I’ve just realised we have a promotion able squad, if that the season was not disrupted in separate times we could have seen us up in the top 3 or even 2. Fucking Dave Boddy am I right
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #31
Hutch11 said:
I firmly believe that with O'Hare fit all season we'd be in the top 6 comfortably
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We have been winning without him before, and we are again now too.

There's so many if, buts, and maybe's. In reality we are a pretty average championship team with a cluster of good players and an overperforming management team. We win a game and it's promotion, lose one and it's relegation.

If we put together a really good run of form, it isn't impossible, but I still think some are getting a bit too carried away. It'll be a few weeks more of good results before I start taking the prospect of playoffs seriously, personally.
 

harvey098

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #32
Last season we finished on a points per game of 1.39… this season, despite the start, we’re actually ahead that on 1.41.

Remarkably we’re actually on course for year on year improvement for the 6th consecutive season. Quite incredible really
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #33
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
We have been winning without him before, and we are again now too.

There's so many if, buts, and maybe's. In reality we are a pretty average championship team with a cluster of good players and an overperforming management team. We win a game and it's promotion, lose one and it's relegation.

If we put together a really good run of form, it isn't impossible, but I still think some are getting a bit too carried away. It'll be a few weeks more of good results before I start taking the prospect of playoffs seriously, personally.
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We have a team that when it’s on form and everyone’s available can beat anyone in this league. But the squad is too small to last the distance or to maintain the consistency needed.

A pity as Luton will probably make the playoffs two seasons running on probably even less money
 
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Colin Steins Smile

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #34
The start of the season was abysmal with the loss of O'Hare before the first game [although he could have been sold, if he'd not got injured]. The pitch debacle .... and then the sale of Hyam, which arguably hurt us even more when Fadz got injured. That sale to cover a tax bill and pitch showed what a shoestring of a budget the club was being run on, in comparison to other Championship clubs.

The injuries to numerous players, when we have a small squad, makes me wonder if the strength and conditioning coach needs questioning about the programmes he's introduced this season.

The fact we still have an outside chance of the play-offs after the disruption to our season is due to MR and his staff. PUSB's.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 21, 2023
  • #35
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I know I’ve been a culprit of bedwetting this season. But I’ve just realised we have a promotion able squad, if that the season was not disrupted in separate times we could have seen us up in the top 3 or even 2. Fucking Dave Boddy am I right
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Any squad that depends on the fitness of a 35 year-old CB to stay competitive isn’t a serious promotion challenger.
 
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