It makes me laugh that when we sold Vik and Hamer everyone accepted it was going to be a transitional season with some highs and lows but now that has actually come to fruition people are complaining about itYep we lost to West Brom, some people think the season is over etc - well for me as long as we did not go down this season I was happy I thought mid table and we have a bonus of a FA cup run - 90 mins from Wembley - another thought is I don’t think we are ready for promotion and would end up like shef utd -
It makes me laugh that when we sold Vik and Hamer everyone accepted it was going to be a transitional season with some highs and lows but now that has actually come to fruition people are complaining about it
And earlier this season, people would have snapped your hands off for where we are now. A lot of revisionism going on. I'm already steeling myself for the manic rantings of a few individuals over the odd misplaced pass against Rotherham.This is nothing new for our support.
The season we came up the majority of people said they'd be happy to stay up then a lot of them proceeded to moan like fuck when we then played like a team who were in a relegation dogfight.
I hadn't accepted that this would be a transitional season and I don't think it needed to be.It makes me laugh that when we sold Vik and Hamer everyone accepted it was going to be a transitional season with some highs and lows but now that has actually come to fruition people are complaining about it
Ipswich were more than likely going to finish above us regardless of what we didI hadn't accepted that this would be a transitional season and I don't think it needed to be.
We were well placed in January and if King had supported Robins by adding a couple of extra players we would probably have made the play offs with a strong chance of success. Instead other teams like Ipswich and Hull did it and will get that opportunity at our expense.
We have been too inflexible in our approach and there is a risk that the forward impetus has gone. We are also stuck with some players on long contracts who are of questionable ability.
It makes me laugh that when we sold Vik and Hamer everyone accepted it was going to be a transitional season with some highs and lows but now that has actually come to fruition people are complaining about it
Definitely this. I never got the "it's the transitional season" we lose and sign players every summer as all clubs do. We spent what £25m+ this season too.Every season is transitional players come players go To me it's the way you deal with it .This season the team took far to long to settle down.I do think now we might even take the decision to stop playing O'hare as he has clearly decided he is moving on.
On a side note Ellis should spend till tuesday practicing keeping those shot down terrible wasteful.
As for the season we maybe outsiders now but some strange results between now and the end we still got 33 points to play for
Because each team has a cycle - We showed promise in 2021/22, then following on from that, that team was ready to go up last season - it failed to get over the line so we have had to start that cycle againDefinitely this. I never got the "it's the transitional season" we lose and sign players every summer as all clubs do. We spent what £25m+ this season too.
You have to build season by season, and this season looks to be the first season since Robins come in that we won't have had an improvement in where we finish. The benchmark was high because of finishing in the play off, but that is the benchmark for an improvement on last season.
Re: OP. I will likely go, but I'm not particularly excited by going to Wembley for a cup semi final. My opinion has always been, Wembley should be for finals only, and I've always hated that the semis are now at Wembley. Just a money spinner for the FA and Club Wembley the prize of getting to the final should be playing at wembley.
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It makes me laugh that when we sold Vik and Hamer everyone accepted it was going to be a transitional season with some highs and lows but now that has actually come to fruition people are complaining about it
That's the thing, Harry, a minor bump in the road is reacted to like we've just been involved in a 35 car, motorway pile-up.I think as a fanbase we need to be a bit careful between now and the end of the season. Careful, as in keep showing our 'love;' of the team/club. I know the forum doesn't always reflect the support in the stadia, but if any collective disappointment of the season fizzling out, C O'H negativity (think some people have been quick to jump on the 'he's already checked out' bandwagon a bit unfairly) is vented, then there is a danger of undoing the fantastically positive experience that we have created for fans and players alike.
Next season, we will have MVE, Sheaf, Tats, Torp (big fan) plus the likelihood of several exciting signings. Let's not self destruct as a result of a minor bump in the road.
This season has been a bigger change than most let's be honest, at this point the literal spine of last season's team has gone.Definitely this. I never got the "it's the transitional season" we lose and sign players every summer as all clubs do. We spent what £25m+ this season too.
You have to build season by season, and this season looks to be the first season since Robins come in that we won't have had an improvement in where we finish. The benchmark was high because of finishing in the play off, but that is the benchmark for an improvement on last season.
Re: OP. I will likely go, but I'm not particularly excited by going to Wembley for a cup semi final. My opinion has always been, Wembley should be for finals only, and I've always hated that the semis are now at Wembley. Just a money spinner for the FA and Club Wembley the prize of getting to the final should be playing at wembley.
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This season has been a bigger change than most let's be honest, at this point the literal spine of last season's team has gone.
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This is nothing new for our support.
The season we came up the majority of people said they'd be happy to stay up then a lot of them proceeded to moan like fuck when we then played like a team who were in a relegation dogfight.
If we don't get into the play offs, which looks unlikely now, we have gone backwards in my eyes. Success in football isn't measured in how much you have followed 'the model' but how successfully the team is. For the first time in years we will have done worse in the league than the year before and I put this down to slavishly following the model rather than being pragmatic as we have done in the past.We’re doing so much better than I expected this season. Last two games have been frustrating. It’s frustrating we didn’t chuck millions at loans in Jan. But that’s because as a fan I decided to up my expectations, not because of anything the club has done wrong.
The attitude of the fans this season is the worst it’s been in seven years. So weird.
I agree people have got carried away with expectations this season, but don't recall what you describe in the 1st season after promotion. There was a lot of realism that season (we had max up front for most of it), people were very aware of the squad we had. May have been the odd performance that was criticised but generally people were delighted with the outcome.
Don't forget also the backing they got at the beginning of this season and especially last season when things were very grim.
Think people are going over the top right now, although some of the criticism is warranted. Expectations are perhaps a little too high, but people see the amount of money spent and the position we got ourselves into and get a bit giddy when we lose a game.
See your point but i do think we are at a bit of a cross roads. Body language wise MVE Simms Wright Thomas Collins Da Silva Binks dont seem to have the same passion Mcfadzean Godden (before this season) Kelly Bidwell Allen Wilson had when they were all playing in the same team. I just dont feel that bond with the fans is quite the same, i know they run to the fans etc and MVE does his fist pump thing, but it seems all a bit forced whereas previously with the old guard it just seemed so natural.I think as a fanbase we need to be a bit careful between now and the end of the season. Careful, as in keep showing our 'love;' of the team/club. I know the forum doesn't always reflect the support in the stadia, but if any collective disappointment of the season fizzling out, C O'H negativity (think some people have been quick to jump on the 'he's already checked out' bandwagon a bit unfairly) is vented, then there is a danger of undoing the fantastically positive experience that we have created for fans and players alike.
Next season, we will have MVE, Sheaf, Tats, Torp (big fan) plus the likelihood of several exciting signings. Let's not self destruct as a result of a minor bump in the road.
Didn’t see very forced when that held up Tats shirt on MondaySee your point but i do think we are at a bit of a cross roads. Body language wise MVE Simms Wright Thomas Collins Da Silva Binks dont seem to have the same passion Mcfadzean Godden (before this season) Kelly Bidwell Allen Wilson had when they were all playing in the same team. I just dont feel that bond with the fans is quite the same, i know they run to the fans etc and MVE does his fist pump thing, but it seems all a bit forced whereas previously with the old guard it just seemed so natural.
Tats is a colleague. Not a fan who pays to watch.Didn’t see very forced when that held up Tats shirt on Monday
Yes of course blow a load of money with no guarantee, we’ve been there before with no success. We have only been looking at 5th as a maximum. Even if we manage to get to 6th, which is starting to look unlikely, there is still no guarantee.I hadn't accepted that this would be a transitional season and I don't think it needed to be.
We were well placed in January and if King had supported Robins by adding a couple of extra players we would probably have made the play offs with a strong chance of success. Instead other teams like Ipswich and Hull did it and will get that opportunity at our expense.
We have been too inflexible in our approach and there is a risk that the forward impetus has gone. We are also stuck with some players on long contracts who are of questionable ability.
Spot on, we can’t win every game, unfortunately there’s always another team trying to stop us from winning, and very often they have good, experienced players. Look at the experienced pro’s Albion brought on last night. And it’s surely not in O’Hare’s nature to take his eye off the ball because he’s ‘already gone’. He wants to play every minute and win every game. If anything, he’s trying too hard, things don’t come off and he gets frustrated. People criticising him need to remember what a pleasure it’s been to watch him in a Sky Blue shirt. Patience is needed from the fans, I’m guessing top 10 this season, and we go again next season.I think as a fanbase we need to be a bit careful between now and the end of the season. Careful, as in keep showing our 'love;' of the team/club. I know the forum doesn't always reflect the support in the stadia, but if any collective disappointment of the season fizzling out, C O'H negativity (think some people have been quick to jump on the 'he's already checked out' bandwagon a bit unfairly) is vented, then there is a danger of undoing the fantastically positive experience that we have created for fans and players alike.
Next season, we will have MVE, Sheaf, Tats, Torp (big fan) plus the likelihood of several exciting signings. Let's not self destruct as a result of a minor bump in the road.
I hadn't accepted that this would be a transitional season and I don't think it needed to be.
We were well placed in January and if King had supported Robins by adding a couple of extra players we would probably have made the play offs with a strong chance of success. Instead other teams like Ipswich and Hull did it and will get that opportunity at our expense.
We have been too inflexible in our approach and there is a risk that the forward impetus has gone. We are also stuck with some players on long contracts who are of questionable ability.
Do you really think it's as simple as multi million pound signing with four year contract good, loan signing bad? I believe to get out of this division you need to make the most of both markets to get the highest quality players.Yes of course blow a load of money with no guarantee, we’ve been there before with no success. We have only been looking at 5th as a maximum. Even if we manage to get to 6th, which is starting to look unlikely, there is still no guarantee.
So wasn't this season big in the transfer market and the only gem we got along with some average players was Tats. We have since picked up Thorp in Janurary .Are expecting loads of jems coming in if so I hope they blend quicker than this season .If some people on here had their way we would be getting rid of double figures in personal.I dont know were they the funds will come from to service that.This summer transfer business is going to be huge-we are going to buy some real gems and we will be in line for the automatics never mind the playoffs next year.
Unfortunately, it took some players and incredible amount of time to get going this season didn't it.If we don't get into the play offs, which looks unlikely now, we have gone backwards in my eyes. Success in football isn't measured in how much you have followed 'the model' but how successfully the team is. For the first time in years we will have done worse in the league than the year before and I put this down to slavishly following the model rather than being pragmatic as we have done in the past.
I'm sorry but for me the 'but we own all our players' line doesn't compensate for that. We can argue that this means that we are set up better for next season but I am not sure that is true and it feels like a missed opportunity. Will players like Dasilva and Simms suddenly turn into great Championship players? If not we are stuck with them on long contracts. That's the problem with the model.
I get buying promising players and developing them for a profit is a good strategy but it shouldn't be the only approach. Leaving Robins short of players in January, because adding a Kieffer Moore or another experienced striker, would break the model was foolish in my view. It has also meant we have had to overplay some players in matches resulting in injuries and loss of form and confidence.
Is there a risk we lose Robins because of this inflexibility? I haven't a clue but it doesn't seem inconceivable to me.
Overall Im still very proud of what we have achieved so far. This has generally been a very good season to date. We have been stopped in our tracks by injuries to key players across the midfield and our strikers haven’t been up to expectation but there have been a lot of positives.
Still plenty to play for, it was only 2-1 at WBA and they hardly played us off the park.
If we don't get into the play offs, which looks unlikely now, we have gone backwards in my eyes. Success in football isn't measured in how much you have followed 'the model' but how successfully the team is. For the first time in years we will have done worse in the league than the year before and I put this down to slavishly following the model rather than being pragmatic as we have done in the past.
I'm sorry but for me the 'but we own all our players' line doesn't compensate for that. We can argue that this means that we are set up better for next season but I am not sure that is true and it feels like a missed opportunity. Will players like Dasilva and Simms suddenly turn into great Championship players? If not we are stuck with them on long contracts. That's the problem with the model.
I get buying promising players and developing them for a profit is a good strategy but it shouldn't be the only approach. Leaving Robins short of players in January, because adding a Kieffer Moore or another experienced striker, would break the model was foolish in my view. It has also meant we have had to overplay some players in matches resulting in injuries and loss of form and confidence.
Is there a risk we lose Robins because of this inflexibility? I haven't a clue but it doesn't seem inconceivable to me.
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